what's the plan for Fedora 78?

[SternData]

According to Thunderbird.net, "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only offered
as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from
Thunderbird version 68 or earlier."

-- https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/

What's the plan for Thunderbird in the Fedora repo going forward?


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[John M. Harris Jr]

On Monday, July 20, 2020 6:36:35 AM MST SternData wrote:
>  According to Thunderbird.net, "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only
> offered
>  as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from
>  Thunderbird version 68 or earlier."
>  
>  -- https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/
>  
>  What's the plan for Thunderbird in the Fedora repo going forward? 
We're still on Fedora 32. Come back in 23 years, and we'll see about Fedora 
78.

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John M. Harris, Jr.
Splentity

[Tim]

On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 08:36 -0500, SternData wrote:
>  According to Thunderbird.net, "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only
>  offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade
>  from Thunderbird version 68 or earlier."
>  
>  -- https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/ 
Didn't you read the page on link you quoted?

"Thunderbird version 78.0 is only offered as direct download from
thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 68 or
earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier versions."

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[SternData]

On 7/20/20 8:40 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>  On Monday, July 20, 2020 6:36:35 AM MST SternData wrote:
> > According to Thunderbird.net, "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only offered
> > as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from
> > Thunderbird version 68 or earlier."
> >
> > -- https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/
> >
> > What's the plan for Thunderbird in the Fedora repo going forward?
>  
>  We're still on Fedora 32. Come back in 23 years, and we'll see about Fedora 
>  78.
>   
AARGH.... meant to type "for Thunderbird 78".  DAMMIT!

what's the plan for Thunderbird 78?

[SternData]

On 7/20/20 10:02 AM, Tim via users wrote:
>  On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 08:36 -0500, SternData wrote:
> > According to Thunderbird.net, "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only
> > offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade
> > from Thunderbird version 68 or earlier."
> >
> > -- https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/
>  
>  Didn't you read the page on link you quoted?
>  
>  "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only offered as direct download from
>  thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 68 or
>  earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier versions."
>   
Yes, I read it.  Will Thunderbird continue to be part of the Fedora repos?

[John M. Harris Jr]

On Monday, July 20, 2020 8:27:34 AM MST SternData wrote:
>  On 7/20/20 8:40 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>  > On Monday, July 20, 2020 6:36:35 AM MST SternData wrote:
>  >> According to Thunderbird.net, "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only offered
>  >> as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from
>  >> Thunderbird version 68 or earlier."
>  >> 
>  >> -- https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/
>  >> 
>  >> What's the plan for Thunderbird in the Fedora repo going forward?
>  > 
>  > We're still on Fedora 32. Come back in 23 years, and we'll see about
>  > Fedora
>  > 78.
>  
>  AARGH.... meant to type "for Thunderbird 78".  DAMMIT! 
No worries, I figured as much, but figured that'd be an amusing response.

As for the Thunderbird package, it's probably going to remain, but there's no 
telling how it'll handle the upgrade path. I'll look into the package for you 
later, to see if it's already in the spec, if nobody does so while I'm at 
work.

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what's the plan for Thunderbird 78?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 10:28 -0500, SternData wrote:
>  On 7/20/20 10:02 AM, Tim via users wrote:
>  > On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 08:36 -0500, SternData wrote:
>  > > According to Thunderbird.net, "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only
>  > > offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade
>  > > from Thunderbird version 68 or earlier."
>  > > 
>  > > -- https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/
>  > 
>  > Didn't you read the page on link you quoted?
>  > 
>  > "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only offered as direct download from
>  > thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 68 or
>  > earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier versions."
>  > 
>  
>  Yes, I read it.  Will Thunderbird continue to be part of the Fedora repos? 
My understanding of that quote is that older versions of TB cannot be
upgraded to version 78.0, but rather that it has to be freshly
installed. I don't use TB but assume that this refers to the in-program 
update process (Firefox has a similar procedure), which Fedora users
won't generally be using anyway. I assume Fedora will continue to
support TB via the package manager as usual.

poc

what's the plan for Thunderbird 78?

[Ed Greshko]

On 2020-07-21 05:50, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 10:28 -0500, SternData wrote:
> > On 7/20/20 10:02 AM, Tim via users wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 08:36 -0500, SternData wrote:
> >>> According to Thunderbird.net, "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only
> >>> offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade
> >>> from Thunderbird version 68 or earlier."
> >>>
> >>> -- https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/
> >> Didn't you read the page on link you quoted?
> >>
> >> "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only offered as direct download from
> >> thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 68 or
> >> earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier versions."
> >>
> > Yes, I read it.  Will Thunderbird continue to be part of the Fedora repos?
>  My understanding of that quote is that older versions of TB cannot be
>  upgraded to version 78.0, but rather that it has to be freshly
>  installed. I don't use TB but assume that this refers to the in-program 
>  update process (Firefox has a similar procedure), which Fedora users
>  won't generally be using anyway. I assume Fedora will continue to
>  support TB via the package manager as usual. 
And, FWIW, I would not be updating to TB 78 until there is a clear update patch since they
note...

Add-on support: As of version 78.0, Thunderbird only supports MailExtensions. Your
favorite add-ons may not have been updated for compatibility.

and

OpenPGP functionality for Thunderbird 78 is still work in progress, and is disabled by
default in the initial 78.0 release. See the wiki for how to enable and help with
testing.

I would not be happy with that.  Well, unless I plan to be a tester.


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what's the plan for Thunderbird 78?

[Tim]

Tim:
> > Didn't you read the page on link you quoted?
> >
> > "Thunderbird version 78.0 is only offered as direct download from
> > thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 68 or
> > earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier
> > versions." 
SternData:
>  Yes, I read it.  Will Thunderbird continue to be part of the Fedora
>  repos? 
You're asking the wrong people that question.  But I interpret their
statement as *that* release cannot be installed as an update (it can't
import prior settings/data), but that in the future improved version
will have the ability to be installed as an update (they'll build in an
import feature), so hold off until you see that announcement.
 
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