To turn Plymouth off?

[don fisher]

How can one disable Plymouth? I prefer to see the boot sequence. I 
recently had a "blue screen of death" for about 10 minutes while my 
disks were doing a mount limit forced fsck. Beauty is in the eye of the 
beholder:-)

Something also changed between F9 and F10 with upstart. In F9 I was able 
to comment out the lines in /etc/event.d/prefdm associated with:

exec /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon

and the system would drop through to a text interface. Now it hangs. 
What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? I do not mind typing startx.

don

[Michael Cronenworth]

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: To turn Plymouth off?
From: don fisher 
To: [e-mail]
Date: 12/29/2008 12:28 PM
> How can one disable Plymouth?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterStartup#User_Documentation

Also, pressing your ESC (Escape) key will display init text instead of 
the graphical progress bar. This is also a very high-traffic question on 
this list. Please search.
> and the system would drop through to a text interface. Now it hangs. 
> What is the best way to avoid using prefdm?

Perhaps reading the prefdm script would give you some pointers. Looks 
like you will /need/ something like prefdm to kill plymouth. "startx" by 
itself won't cut it.

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em Seg 29 Dez 2008, don fisher escreveu:
> How can one disable Plymouth? I prefer to see the boot sequence. I
> recently had a "blue screen of death" for about 10 minutes while my
> disks were doing a mount limit forced fsck. Beauty is in the eye of
> the beholder:-)
>
> Something also changed between F9 and F10 with upstart. In F9 I was
> able to comment out the lines in /etc/event.d/prefdm associated with:
>
> exec /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon
>
> and the system would drop through to a text interface. Now it hangs.
> What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? I do not mind typing
> startx.

You can press ESC while the computer is booting or, if you want to 
disable it permanently, edit the line that loads the kernel in 
/boot/grub/grub.conf and remove the option rhgb from it.

[]'s
Marcelo

[don fisher]

Thanks. When I read the pointer from the release notes:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterStartup

it said that "we are getting rid of RHGB". Thus I had assumed that 
removing the rhgb option from grub.conf would not be permanent. I will 
do it as you suggested.

don

Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> Em Seg 29 Dez 2008, don fisher escreveu:
> > How can one disable Plymouth? I prefer to see the boot sequence. I
> > recently had a "blue screen of death" for about 10 minutes while my
> > disks were doing a mount limit forced fsck. Beauty is in the eye of
> > the beholder:-)
> >
> > Something also changed between F9 and F10 with upstart. In F9 I was
> > able to comment out the lines in /etc/event.d/prefdm associated with:
> >
> > exec /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon
> >
> > and the system would drop through to a text interface. Now it hangs.
> > What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? I do not mind typing
> > startx.
>
> You can press ESC while the computer is booting or, if you want to 
> disable it permanently, edit the line that loads the kernel in 
> /boot/grub/grub.conf and remove the option rhgb from it.
>
> []'s
> Marcelo

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:28:19 -0700,
  don fisher  wrote:
> How can one disable Plymouth? I prefer to see the boot sequence. I  
> recently had a "blue screen of death" for about 10 minutes while my  
> disks were doing a mount limit forced fsck. Beauty is in the eye of the  
> beholder:-)

You can't turn it off. However you can change things so that you see
console output during the boot. Remove 'quiet' and 'rhgb' from the kernel
entries in /boot/grub/grub.conf .
> Something also changed between F9 and F10 with upstart. In F9 I was able  
> to comment out the lines in /etc/event.d/prefdm associated with:
>
> exec /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon
>
> and the system would drop through to a text interface. Now it hangs.

Are you sure? Did you try other consoles besides vt1? Between F9 and F10
the X console moved to vt1 from vt7. If X isn't running but you are in run
level 5, I don't think vt1 will be usable.
> What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? I do not mind typing startx.

Maybe you want to boot in run level 3? If so you can add '3' to the kernel
paramters while you are editing grub.conf. It isn't clear what you are
really trying to do though, so it may be that switching to run level 3
is not the correct answer.

[Beartooth]

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:46:54 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:28:19 -0700,
>   don fisher  wrote:
> > How can one disable Plymouth? I prefer to see the boot sequence.

[....]
> You can't turn it off. However you can change things so that you see
> console output during the boot. Remove 'quiet' and 'rhgb' from the
> kernel entries in /boot/grub/grub.conf .

[....]
> > What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? I do not mind typing
> > startx.
>
> Maybe you want to boot in run level 3? If so you can add '3' to the
> kernel paramters while you are editing grub.conf. It isn't clear what
> you are really trying to do though, so it may be that switching to run
> level 3 is not the correct answer.

Not to speak for the OP (I'm no mind reader! Would that I 
were ...), but I asked a similar question here about F10 Beta on 11/2.07.

I was advised to "remove rhgb," which I took to mean "yum remove 
rhgb," something I'd been doing for many, many releases, usually as the 
first thing at completion of an upgrade or install, even before updating; 
and it had always just worked.

F10 translated to "yum remove plymouth" -- which takes mkinitrd 
and gdm!

(I may yet try it, followed immediately by "yum install gdm 
mkinitrd" ....)

I have to say, again, that this business of having to know a 
secret magic word (or keystroke) to do something is *not* to my mind a 
way to conserve user-friendliness.

For my own part, I wouldn't be able to make head nor tail of 90% 
of the boot messages if you brought them down a mountain to me on stone 
stone tablets; but by watching long enough I have discovered several 
helpful things.

Example : if I'm having connection problems for some reason, 
success with ntp tells me I do have a connection this time, and failure 
tells me I don't.

Half a dozen such things are more than enough to save ten or 
fifteen minutes -- or to prevent losing a train of thought.