Hi!
I installed F42 yesterday and the sound was working at first. Now that I've copied my old files and updated everything I have no sound. How can I figure out what's going on and eventually fix it (that'd be nice).
Thank you.
Fred
On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 6:42 AM Frederic Muller fred@cm17.com wrote:
Hi!
I installed F42 yesterday and the sound was working at first. Now that I've copied my old files and updated everything I have no sound. How can I figure out what's going on and eventually fix it (that'd be nice).
When reporting problems, you should provide enough detail to allow others with similar hardware to reproduce the issue (e.g., output from "inxi -Fzxx".
Sound is often enabled before the linux kernel is loaded, so can be affected by changes to UEFI/BIOS as well as user configuration settings. Some updates do introduce bugs.
Try creating another user login. If sound works there, your issue is probably some setting in ~/.config files.
Using your own login, you may find helpful details using journalctl.
.-- George N. White III
On 13/05/2025 18:55, George N. White III wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 6:42 AM Frederic Muller fred@cm17.com wrote:
Hi! I installed F42 yesterday and the sound was working at first. Now that I've copied my old files and updated everything I have no sound. How can I figure out what's going on and eventually fix it (that'd be nice).When reporting problems, you should provide enough detail to allow others with similar hardware to reproduce the issue (e.g., output from "inxi -Fzxx".
Sound is often enabled before the linux kernel is loaded, so can be affected by changes to UEFI/BIOS as well as user configuration settings. Some updates do introduce bugs.
Try creating another user login. If sound works there, your issue is probably some setting in ~/.config files.
Using your own login, you may find helpful details using journalctl.
Sorry about that. I just booted from the USB live disk and there is no sound as well..
The driver is alsa-firmware.noarch 1.2.4-14.fc42 fedora and
lspci -k | grep -i audio 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller (rev 20) Kernel driver in use: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
systemctl --user status pipewire ● pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; disabled; preset: > Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service.d └─00-uresourced.conf /usr/lib/systemd/user/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf
Active: active (running)
and alsamixer sees the card very well.
Now there was a firmware update today as well for that X1 Carbon. Basically you're saying most likely this is the culprit. I'll try to check in the bios setup if there is anything but from the above Fedora is behaving like everything is working fine, which leads me to believe in a firmware bug then.
Thank you for the answers.
Fred
On 13/05/2025 21:15, Frederic Muller wrote:
On 13/05/2025 18:55, George N. White III wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 6:42 AM Frederic Muller fred@cm17.com wrote:
Hi! I installed F42 yesterday and the sound was working at first. Now that I've copied my old files and updated everything I have no sound. How can I figure out what's going on and eventually fix it (that'd be nice).When reporting problems, you should provide enough detail to allow others with similar hardware to reproduce the issue (e.g., output from "inxi -Fzxx".
Sound is often enabled before the linux kernel is loaded, so can be affected by changes to UEFI/BIOS as well as user configuration settings. Some updates do introduce bugs.
Try creating another user login. If sound works there, your issue is probably some setting in ~/.config files.
Using your own login, you may find helpful details using journalctl.
Sorry about that. I just booted from the USB live disk and there is no sound as well..
The driver is alsa-firmware.noarch 1.2.4-14.fc42 fedora and
lspci -k | grep -i audio 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller (rev 20) Kernel driver in use: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
systemctl --user status pipewire ● pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; disabled; preset: > Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service.d └─00-uresourced.conf /usr/lib/systemd/user/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf
Active: active (running)
and alsamixer sees the card very well.
Now there was a firmware update today as well for that X1 Carbon. Basically you're saying most likely this is the culprit. I'll try to check in the bios setup if there is anything but from the above Fedora is behaving like everything is working fine, which leads me to believe in a firmware bug then.
Thank you for the answers.
Fred
so more updates. I downgrade the system firmware to its previous version and I still do not have any sound. Do you have any more tips or other things I should check?
Thank you.
Fred
On Tue, 2025-05-13 at 21:46 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
I downgrade the system firmware to its previous version and I still do not have any sound. Do you have any more tips or other things I should check?
You don't say what your audio output is, so maybe this is going to sound ridiculous, but if applicable are the speakers plugged in and turned on? I was caught by that once (a long time ago).
poc
On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 5:42 AM Frederic Muller fred@cm17.com wrote:
I installed F42 yesterday and the sound was working at first. Now that I've copied my old files and updated everything I have no sound. How can I figure out what's going on and eventually fix it (that'd be nice).
Thank you.
How to troubleshoot sound problems, https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/how-to-troubleshoot-sound-problems/.
On 13/05/2025 22:59, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2025-05-13 at 21:46 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
I downgrade the system firmware to its previous version and I still do not have any sound. Do you have any more tips or other things I should check?
You don't say what your audio output is, so maybe this is going to sound ridiculous, but if applicable are the speakers plugged in and turned on? I was caught by that once (a long time ago).
poc
No, no speakers connected to the laptop. Thank you.
Fred
On 13/05/2025 23:36, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 5:42 AM Frederic Muller fred@cm17.com wrote:
I installed F42 yesterday and the sound was working at first. Now that I've copied my old files and updated everything I have no sound. How can I figure out what's going on and eventually fix it (that'd be nice).
Thank you.
How to troubleshoot sound problems, https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/how-to-troubleshoot-sound-problems/.
Yes, I went there and did already post some information. At one point it becomes to complicated for me though. Here is the information and more:
sudo lspci -k | grep audio Kernel driver in use: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl alsa-firmware.noarch 1.2.4-14.fc42 fedora
No other firmware installed
systemctl --user status pipewire ● pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; disabled; preset: > Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service.d └─00-uresourced.conf /usr/lib/systemd/user/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf Active: active (running) since Thu 2025-05-15 08:48:35 +07; 20min ago Invocation: 626de73e4d2145bbbfdd31a9ea10afac TriggeredBy: ● pipewire.socket Main PID: 2223 (pipewire) Tasks: 3 (limit: 37947) Memory: 7.6M (peak: 8.5M) CPU: 398ms CGroup: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/pipewi> └─2223 /usr/bin/pipewire
May 15 08:48:35 fedora systemd[2074]: Started pipewire.service - PipeWire Multi> lines 1-17/17 (END)
systemctl --user status wireplumber ● wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service; enabled; preset> Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/user/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf Active: active (running) since Thu 2025-05-15 08:48:35 +07; 21min ago Invocation: 58f8971143a04029bce9f380ece7af03 Main PID: 2226 (wireplumber) Tasks: 9 (limit: 37947) Memory: 7.7M (peak: 8.1M) CPU: 296ms CGroup: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/wirepl> └─2226 /usr/bin/wireplumber
May 15 08:48:35 fedora systemd[2074]: Started wireplumber.service - Multimedia > May 15 08:48:35 fedora wireplumber[2226]: wp-internal-comp-loader: Loading prof> May 15 08:48:36 fedora wireplumber[2226]: [0:00:40.818998560] [2226] INFO Came> May 15 08:48:37 fedora wireplumber[2226]: s-monitors-utils: skipping device lib> May 15 08:48:37 fedora wireplumber[2226]: s-monitors-utils: skipping device lib> lines 1-18/18 (END)
groups fred wheel audio audio configuration is not corrupted (booted with a new user, same problem)
I don't have any external microphone to test, I actually never use the microphone. It's on mute.
Also check the BIOS and everything is enabled sound wise.
Thank you.
Fred
On 14/5/25 00:15, Frederic Muller wrote:
On 13/05/2025 18:55, George N. White III wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 6:42 AM Frederic Muller fred@cm17.com wrote:
Hi! I installed F42 yesterday and the sound was working at first. Now that I've copied my old files and updated everything I have no sound. How can I figure out what's going on and eventually fix it (that'd be nice).When reporting problems, you should provide enough detail to allow others with similar hardware to reproduce the issue (e.g., output from "inxi -Fzxx".
Sound is often enabled before the linux kernel is loaded, so can be affected by changes to UEFI/BIOS as well as user configuration settings. Some updates do introduce bugs.
Try creating another user login. If sound works there, your issue is probably some setting in ~/.config files.
Using your own login, you may find helpful details using journalctl.
Sorry about that. I just booted from the USB live disk and there is no sound as well..
The driver is alsa-firmware.noarch 1.2.4-14.fc42 fedora and
lspci -k | grep -i audio 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller (rev 20) Kernel driver in use: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
systemctl --user status pipewire ● pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; disabled; preset: > Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service.d └─00-uresourced.conf /usr/lib/systemd/user/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf
Active: active (running)
and alsamixer sees the card very well.
When this happens to me I used "pulse Audio Volume Control" (pavucontrol) to confirm the correct Configuration and Output Device is set and the volume is reasonable.
Eyal
Now there was a firmware update today as well for that X1 Carbon. Basically you're saying most likely this is the culprit. I'll try to check in the bios setup if there is anything but from the above Fedora is behaving like everything is working fine, which leads me to believe in a firmware bug then.
Thank you for the answers.
Fred
On 15/05/2025 10:39, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
When this happens to me I used "pulse Audio Volume Control" (pavucontrol) to confirm the correct Configuration and Output Device is set and the volume is reasonable.
Eyal
pulse Audio Volume Control bash: pulse: command not found... fred@fedora:~$ sudo dnf install pulse [sudo] password for fred: Updating and loading repositories: Repositories loaded. Failed to resolve the transaction: No match for argument: pulse You can try to add to command line: --skip-unavailable to skip unavailable packages
Where do you get "that pulse" from? ;-)
Fred
On 5/14/25 10:10 PM, Frederic Muller wrote:
On 15/05/2025 10:39, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
When this happens to me I used "pulse Audio Volume Control" (pavucontrol) to confirm the correct Configuration and Output Device is set and the volume is reasonable.
Eyal
pulse Audio Volume Control bash: pulse: command not found... fred@fedora:~$ sudo dnf install pulse [sudo] password for fred: Updating and loading repositories: Repositories loaded. Failed to resolve the transaction: No match for argument: pulse You can try to add to command line: --skip-unavailable to skip unavailable packages
Where do you get "that pulse" from? ;-)
"pavucontrol"
On 15/05/2025 13:11, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/14/25 10:10 PM, Frederic Muller wrote:
On 15/05/2025 10:39, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
When this happens to me I used "pulse Audio Volume Control" (pavucontrol) to confirm the correct Configuration and Output Device is set and the volume is reasonable.
Eyal
pulse Audio Volume Control bash: pulse: command not found... fred@fedora:~$ sudo dnf install pulse [sudo] password for fred: Updating and loading repositories: Repositories loaded. Failed to resolve the transaction: No match for argument: pulse You can try to add to command line: --skip-unavailable to skip unavailable packages
Where do you get "that pulse" from? ;-)
"pavucontrol"
Great! So now I know... I have 3 HDMI monitors connected and the sound is going to one of them instead of the laptop. How can I force it to go to the laptop speakers?
Thank you.
Fred
ps: yes I unplugged them and could hear music. I replugged and it was back to 'no sound'
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