Within the next three weeks or so, barring any great surprises, I hope to be putting Fedora 27 onto four PCs, a laptop, and a netbook. IIRC, the netbook, which I haven't used recently, has F24 now; all the others are running 26. I'll do all I can by upgrading, because every time I do a fresh install, it costs me something more than a whole day per machine to do the tweaking I need.
(I've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7; so my trifocal fingers and arthritic eyeballs know their jobs IF I get all the tweaks right -- a great boon and a bringer of cyber-survival, since I also keep getting slower and more forgetful....)
A correspondent on another list says one used to be able to use Mondo Rescue to grab all the settings on an existing install and clone them onto a new one. That would save me vast tedium.
But the Mondo Rescue site lists only rpms for Fedora 23 and before. And either I'm garbling my correspondent's directions, or they don't work any more -- or both.
I tried a few variations on "dnf install Mondo-xyzq". I also downloaded a few .rpms from Mondo's repository and ran "rpm -ivh" against them. Both tries failed.
Is there a tutorial somewhere? Has Mondo Rescue forked into something with another name? Have the Fedora Gurux and Alpha Plus Technoids come up with a replacement while I wasn't looking??
Hi,
You're aware that F27 isn't stable yet, right?
Regards, Silvia
On 2 November 2017 at 18:02, Beartooth beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
Within the next three weeks or so, barring any great surprises, Ihope to be putting Fedora 27 onto four PCs, a laptop, and a netbook. IIRC, the netbook, which I haven't used recently, has F24 now; all the others are running 26. I'll do all I can by upgrading, because every time I do a fresh install, it costs me something more than a whole day per machine to do the tweaking I need.
(I've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7; so my trifocalfingers and arthritic eyeballs know their jobs IF I get all the tweaks right -- a great boon and a bringer of cyber-survival, since I also keep getting slower and more forgetful....)
A correspondent on another list says one used to be able to useMondo Rescue to grab all the settings on an existing install and clone them onto a new one. That would save me vast tedium.
But the Mondo Rescue site lists only rpms for Fedora 23 andbefore. And either I'm garbling my correspondent's directions, or they don't work any more -- or both.
I tried a few variations on "dnf install Mondo-xyzq". I alsodownloaded a few .rpms from Mondo's repository and ran "rpm -ivh" against them. Both tries failed.
Is there a tutorial somewhere? Has Mondo Rescue forked intosomething with another name? Have the Fedora Gurux and Alpha Plus Technoids come up with a replacement while I wasn't looking?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is.
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Hopefully....
On 5 November 2017 at 21:51, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 2017-11-05 at 21:31 +0100, Silvia Sánchez wrote:
You're aware that F27 isn't stable yet, right?
I think that's why he mentioned doing in this in the next three weeks or so, by which time it's hoped that F27 will be released.
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On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 17:02:25 +0000 (UTC), Beartooth wrote:
A correspondent on another list says one used to be able to use Mondo Rescue to grab all the settings on an existing install and clone them onto a new one. That would save me vast tedium.
But the Mondo Rescue site lists only rpms for Fedora 23 and before. And either I'm garbling my correspondent's directions, or they don't work any more -- or both.
I tried a few variations on "dnf install Mondo-xyzq". I alsodownloaded a few .rpms from Mondo's repository and ran "rpm -ivh" against them. Both tries failed.
Is there a tutorial somewhere? Has Mondo Rescue forked into something with another name? Have the Fedora Gurux and Alpha Plus Technoids come up with a replacement while I wasn't looking??
The mondo suite of programs is still in the package review for over 10 years, because without people interested in them, the odds that someone else will do substantial reviewing *and* approve the packages are low: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/187318
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 21:31:01 +0100, Silvia Sánchez wrote:
You're aware that F27 isn't stable yet, right?
Fully aware, yes, thanks! Just trying to get my ducks in a row against the day it comes out.
On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 09:40:09 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 17:02:25 +0000 (UTC), Beartooth wrote:
[....]
Is there a tutorial somewhere? Has Mondo Rescue forked into something with another name? Have the Fedora Gurux and Alpha Plus Technoids come up with a replacement while I wasn't looking??
The mondo suite of programs is still in the package review for over 10 years, because without people interested in them, the odds that someone else will do substantial reviewing *and* approve the packages are low: HTTP://bugzilla.redhat.com/187318
That sure is woefully convincing, yes, alas! But I can't believe anyone who can write code would put up with the dull-tool-&-main-strength way I've been doing it, especially anyone who knows where the sundry tweaks live when they're home. There's gotta be something somewhere -- or more likely at least one version each in Fedora, CentOS, and RHEL ...
And you're just going to let your geese remain unordered?!
(Haven't had my coffee yet or my meds :-) ) Bill
On 11/7/2017 10:57 AM, Beartooth wrote:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 21:31:01 +0100, Silvia Sánchez wrote:
You're aware that F27 isn't stable yet, right?
Fully aware, yes, thanks! Just trying to get my ducks in a row against the day it comes out.
Hi Beartooth,
Don't rush, we still have another GO/NO-GO meeting this Thursday, and some of the bugs from last time were pretty ugly. :-)
Cheers, Silvia
On 7 November 2017 at 15:57, Beartooth beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 21:31:01 +0100, Silvia Sánchez wrote:
You're aware that F27 isn't stable yet, right?
Fully aware, yes, thanks! Just trying to get my ducks in a rowagainst the day it comes out.
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 15:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Beartooth beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 21:31:01 +0100, Silvia Sánchez wrote:
You're aware that F27 isn't stable yet, right?
Fully aware, yes, thanks! Just trying to get my ducks in a row against the day it comes out.
If your F26 machines run fine I'd recommend to use a F27 Live system before actually upgrading to it. Just to make sure the upgrade won't break software you need ...
Last time I upgraded I forgot to do just that - finding after the upgrade that just a few things on the upgraded system went belly up on me ...
EOL of F26 is still more than half a year away, IINM ... so still enough time to upgrade.
Good luck! Wolfgang
On 11/06/2017 03:40 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 17:02:25 +0000 (UTC), Beartooth wrote:
A correspondent on another list says one used to be able to use Mondo Rescue to grab all the settings on an existing install and clone them onto a new one. That would save me vast tedium.
But the Mondo Rescue site lists only rpms for Fedora 23 and before. And either I'm garbling my correspondent's directions, or they don't work any more -- or both. I tried a few variations on "dnf install Mondo-xyzq". I also downloaded a few .rpms from Mondo's repository and ran "rpm -ivh" against them. Both tries failed.
Is there a tutorial somewhere? Has Mondo Rescue forked into something with another name? Have the Fedora Gurux and Alpha Plus Technoids come up with a replacement while I wasn't looking??
The mondo suite of programs is still in the package review for over 10 years, because without people interested in them, the odds that someone else will do substantial reviewing *and* approve the packages are low: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/187318 _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
brute force
dnf --releasever=27 --setopt=deltarpm=false distro-sync --allowerasing
Worked for 23 versions in various incarnations of update programs but past is no prologue. YMMV
On 11/15/2017 01:35 PM, Robert McBroom wrote:
On 11/06/2017 03:40 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 17:02:25 +0000 (UTC), Beartooth wrote:
A correspondent on another list says one used to be able to use Mondo Rescue to grab all the settings on an existing install and clone them onto a new one. That would save me vast tedium.
But the Mondo Rescue site lists only rpms for Fedora 23 and before. And either I'm garbling my correspondent's directions, or they don't work any more -- or both. I tried a few variations on "dnf install Mondo-xyzq". I also downloaded a few .rpms from Mondo's repository and ran "rpm -ivh" against them. Both tries failed.
Is there a tutorial somewhere? Has Mondo Rescue forked into something with another name? Have the Fedora Gurux and Alpha Plus Technoids come up with a replacement while I wasn't looking??
The mondo suite of programs is still in the package review for over 10 years, because without people interested in them, the odds that someone else will do substantial reviewing *and* approve the packages are low: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/187318
brute force
dnf --releasever=27 --setopt=deltarpm=false distro-sync --allowerasing
Worked for 23 versions in various incarnations of update programs but past is no prologue. YMMV
I've been building Mondo Rescue from source for a while. This has been more for my own use than any attempt to release it to my fellow Fedorans/CentOSians/Red Hatters. As it stands, the bits I've built work for my systems but I don't know how apropos or generic they'd be for others to use. I can also say that the source is a bit fluid right now, trying to alleviate some of its "pickiness" with BIOS and UEFI settings (as any bootable system would) and disk partitioning/detection when doing bare-metal restores.
The last builds I did were on F26 and while there are some issues with newer system things (gcc, UEFI, syslinux and other utilities it relies on) that need to be worked around, I've managed to solve most of those. There's still a bit of work to do to clean it all up and put it into some form that would make it maintainable and flexible.
Should I get all that done, I'd have to coordinate with Bruno Cornec (the maintainer of Mondo) to see if he approves the changes. I have no idea if he would want to become an official Fedora package maintainer as that does take a fair amount of dedication to the task and Bruno has other things to do (I think he works for HP--not sure). I don't have time right now to be a package maintainer, either.
I guess if there's enough interest in it, I could see what might be done. I don't know Bruno personally, but he seems a nice chap and might be coerced--er--convinced to do it. :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Political Correctness: The insane doctrine that postulates that it - - is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On 11/15/2017 02:52 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
Should I get all that done, I'd have to coordinate with Bruno Cornec (the maintainer of Mondo) to see if he approves the changes. I have no idea if he would want to become an official Fedora package maintainer as that does take a fair amount of dedication to the task and Bruno has other things to do (I think he works for HP--not sure). I don't have time right now to be a package maintainer, either.
He has a long-standing review request open to maintain it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=187318
On 11/15/2017 03:07 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 11/15/2017 02:52 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
Should I get all that done, I'd have to coordinate with Bruno Cornec (the maintainer of Mondo) to see if he approves the changes. I have no idea if he would want to become an official Fedora package maintainer as that does take a fair amount of dedication to the task and Bruno has other things to do (I think he works for HP--not sure). I don't have time right now to be a package maintainer, either.
He has a long-standing review request open to maintain it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=187318
Hmmm. Yes, I see that. I guess I'll try to ping him directly to see what's up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a - - rigged demo. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:33:04 -0500, Bill Shirley wrote:
And you're just going to let your geese remain unordered?!
(Haven't had my coffee yet or my meds :-) )
Sorry to be so late with a (bad) answer; I've asked on a list with a couple British subscribers who know about punts and punt guns. Stay tuned.
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