On Monday 02 July 2007, Todd Denniston wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 10:57 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
The fedora track record in that dept. concerning printing is spotty at best. Printing in general seems to
be
something that sits on the back burner, with a _very_ limited gas supply (eg priority) at fedora.
Gene,
Upgrade to Fedora 7, where gutenprint is properly packaged.
In Fedora 6, gutenprint was in Extras not Core -- and so had to be made to co-exist with the older gimp-print package. (The discussion of why it was this way has already been had, many times over, on fedora-devel-list.)
Tim. */
Tim, I don't care to do that just yet, I've had sufficient trouble putting F7 on my lappy to not relish that thought just yet. This is FC6 now, and will probably remain that way till F8 is out.
The primary mistake in the gimp packaging for FC6 is that you hard coded the deps to absolutely require gimp-print, when in fact gimp has _no_ dependencies on either gimp-print, or gutenprint. Both are, for gimp, simply plugins that enable printing. Gimp has no deps on either, and can do everything available in its menu's without either package being installed.
looking at the spec for gimp-2.2.15-3.fc6.src.rpm (released 28 June 2007), there appears in it:
%if 0%{?fedora}%{?rhel} == 0 || 0%{?fedora} >= 7 || 0%{?rhel} >= 6 %define _enable_gutenprint 0%{!?_without_gutenprint:1} %else %define _enable_gutenprint 0%{?_with_gutenprint:1} %endif
- Wed Jun 13 2007 Nils Philippsen nphilipp@redhat.com - 2:2.2.15-2
- require gutenprint-plugin or gimp-print-plugin (#243593) ^^^^^^^^^
- Tue Apr 24 2007 Nils Philippsen nphilipp@redhat.com - 2:2.2.14-1
- version 2.2.14
- don't BuildRequire gimp-print/gutenprint anymore
- Mon Mar 26 2007 Nils Philippsen nphilipp@redhat.com - 2:2.2.13-3
- use gutenprint per default for current development/future distribution versions (Fedora >= 7, RHEL >= 6)
Something looks a little screwy with that If to me, for some reason it looks like it is doing `%define _enable_gutenprint 0 ` if "fedora >=7"
If you really wanted to you could just brute force (IIRC) %define _enable_gutenprint 1 after that if in the spec, and build gimp yourself. Of course then you get to wait for it to build.
I shouldn't have to "enable" either of them, it should use what configure finds. That's broken.
I'll just have to leave the gimp where its at by locking it I guess. Maybe that way I can go back to doing the "update all" stuff. Now if those deps were removed as they should be, then I, nor anyone else would be having a problem with running a more "bleeding edge" gutenprint, which is to me not the least bit bleeding edge 4 months after its build and install. To me, the newer gutenprint "Just Works(TM)", and I'm not about to replace perfectly good code with broken code that's nearly 3 years out of maintainance just because somebody in packaging this stuff, can't tell the difference between an option and a dependency. The kindest word I can use is dumb.
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Gene Heskett