I have a friend who is vision impaired. He recently got enough of his sight back to begin working on his systems again, and is interested in setting his servers up on Fedora 18. His last version was 10 (long storage in between).
Is there a site, blog or tutorial that would be easy for him to use with a screen reader or would have it broken down as a series of steps to help him get going (I know nothing of server setups now, so I cannot offer much help.)
Among the things he mentioned was: Web manager. Reverse DNS.
Unfortunately we were driving and I couldn't take coherent notes.
Regards, Les Howell
Am 27.03.2013 18:55, schrieb les:
I have a friend who is vision impaired. He recently got enough of his sight back to begin working on his systems again, and is interested in setting his servers up on Fedora 18. His last version was 10 (long storage in between).
Is there a site, blog or tutorial that would be easy for him to use with a screen reader or would have it broken down as a series of steps to help him get going (I know nothing of server setups now, so I cannot offer much help.)
Among the things he mentioned was: Web manager. Reverse DNS.
Unfortunately we were driving and I couldn't take coherent notes
in this context i would not recommend Fdora for a server because it has a limited release-lifetime and you have two options twice a year
* re-install * dist-upgrade
re-install is not much funny and a dist-upgrade with rely on a screen reader maybe also not because sometimes a lot of changes which i personally would not want to take care of in this siutation
in this conext i would recommdn CentOS6 which has security updates for arund 10 years, the backside is that you can't have major upgrades of software for a specific release and a dist-upgrade is mre or less impossible because the changes are too much
On Wed, 2013-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 27.03.2013 18:55, schrieb les:
I have a friend who is vision impaired. He recently got enough of his sight back to begin working on his systems again, and is interested in setting his servers up on Fedora 18. His last version was 10 (long storage in between).
Is there a site, blog or tutorial that would be easy for him to use with a screen reader or would have it broken down as a series of steps to help him get going (I know nothing of server setups now, so I cannot offer much help.)
Among the things he mentioned was: Web manager. Reverse DNS.
Unfortunately we were driving and I couldn't take coherent notes
in this context i would not recommend Fdora for a server because it has a limited release-lifetime and you have two options twice a year
- re-install
- dist-upgrade
re-install is not much funny and a dist-upgrade with rely on a screen reader maybe also not because sometimes a lot of changes which i personally would not want to take care of in this siutation
in this conext i would recommdn CentOS6 which has security updates for arund 10 years, the backside is that you can't have major upgrades of software for a specific release and a dist-upgrade is mre or less impossible because the changes are too much
Thanks, Reindl, He won't be too happy, he loved Fedora. I'll google for the setups for CentOS. It looks like they are taking about 6.1 now on their website.
If you know of any good server setup instructions, I could sure use it. I'll read up so I know a bit up front, and I may try to set up a server locally so I see what the issues are. My friend is a really good man, and I will help where I can. It has taken him a few years to get to a place where he is ready to try this. Life deals us bad hands some times I guess.
Regards, Les H
On 03/27/2013 02:37 PM, les issued this missive:
On Wed, 2013-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
in this conext i would recommdn CentOS6 which has security updates for arund 10 years, the backside is that you can't have major upgrades of software for a specific release and a dist-upgrade is mre or less impossible because the changes are too much
Thanks, Reindl, He won't be too happy, he loved Fedora. I'll google for the setups for CentOS. It looks like they are taking about 6.1 now on their website.
Latest CentOS is 6.4.
Fedora is rather cutting edge and if he's got vision problems, it's probably not the best beast due to the 6-month replacement cycle (and one year life cycle). Couple that with the F18 installer debacle and I'd say it's not really a viable candidate for him. CentOS is a lot more stable and similar to the F10 he knew before. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 27 Mar 2013, les wrote:
On Wed, 2013-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 27.03.2013 18:55, schrieb les:
[...]
Unfortunately we were driving and I couldn't take coherent notes
in this context i would not recommend Fdora for a server because it has a limited release-lifetime and you have two options twice a year
- re-install
- dist-upgrade
re-install is not much funny and a dist-upgrade with rely on a screen reader maybe also not because sometimes a lot of changes which i personally would not want to take care of in this siutation
in this conext i would recommdn CentOS6 which has security updates for arund 10 years, the backside is that you can't have major upgrades of software for a specific release and a dist-upgrade is mre or less impossible because the changes are too much
Thanks, Reindl, He won't be too happy, he loved Fedora. I'll google for the setups for CentOS. It looks like they are taking about 6.1 now on their website.
If you know of any good server setup instructions, I could sure use it. I'll read up so I know a bit up front, and I may try to set up a server locally so I see what the issues are. My friend is a really good man, and I will help where I can. It has taken him a few years to get to a place where he is ready to try this. Life deals us bad hands some times I guess.
I agree with Reindl on this. Fedora is insufferably bleeding-edge to the point that it has even alienated its core developers with the aggressiveness of its release cycle: https://plus.google.com/u/0/111104121194250082892/posts/aCiB7kTLXTh
CentOS is targeting a stable, long-lived run (I think ver. 6.x has an end-of-life of 2020?)
Nevertheless, both Fedora and CentOS distributions are directed at user communities that can engage with the configuration and setup of their systems, including text-editing of key configuration files.
Start with a minimal installation, and then build from there using yum. Also, include other repositories such as epel and rpmfusion*.
Regards, Les H
Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com
Les,
This is really a wonderful thing you are doing for your friend! KUDO's to you, Sir!!!
A variation on the recommendation from Reindl Harald, is maybe set up a primary computer for your friend to use, being Fedora, for its useability with a second system running CentOS (which is up to v6.4 these days---very current) to handle the server-side of things. Assuming he has a large enough screen, then the functionality of Fedora might do the trick as his interface between both hosts (desktop and server). Another recommendation that would give him a bit more stability in this case, is to ensure all the updates for Fedora are occurring until its end-of-life, then simply turn off the yum updates. The downside would be no new features, nor updates/patches. In his case that might be worthwhile!
Wishing you both the best as you go down this road!
R, -Joe
From: les hlhowell@pacbell.net To: users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: Creating a server with Fedora 18
I have a friend who is vision impaired. He recently got enough of his sight back to begin working on his systems again, and is interested in setting his servers up on Fedora 18. His last version was 10 (long storage in between).
Is there a site, blog or tutorial that would be easy for him to use with a screen reader or would have it broken down as a series of steps to help him get going (I know nothing of server setups now, so I cannot offer much help.)
Among the things he mentioned was: Web manager. Reverse DNS.
Unfortunately we were driving and I couldn't take coherent notes.
Regards, Les Howell
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