F10 - system hangs after anacron OK

[Robert Moskowitz]

Everything was working OK yesterday.  I did do a yum update (had been a 
few days since the last one, but don't think I got a new kernel).

Now it just sits there after anacron started with an OK.

What do I do to get this going???

[Jim]

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  David Burns wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz 
> > <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt; wrote:
> >  
> >> I do notice that when iptables is starting there is some message 
> >> about time
> >> being off. But I can't catch it, it scrolls by too fast.
> >>     
> >
> > Do control-s and q work during boot?
>
>  When do those play in?
>
>
>  I tried a number more times. Frequently, <altD> would not work until 
>  it hung after anacron. Sometimes it would. So the system is a micro 
>  notepad (www.oqo.com) and I disconnected it from its dock and my KVM 
>  and worked with its thumb pad.
>
>  I was able to get the kernel menu by pressing an arrow key right at 
>  the beginning. Using and older kernel did not make a difference.
>
>  cntl
>  s and q seemed to do nothing.
>
>  I finally succeeded in getting it into interactive mode and, not 
>  really knowing what I was doing, selected which deamons to start and 
>  which not. I started what 'looked' important but not things like 
>  NetworkManager, Bluetooth, cron, ssh, and so forth. Finally it gets to 
>  anacron and I don't start that. Next is 'local', that seems to be 
>  where it hung before, so I say no. Next is webmin (hey, I thought I 
>  disabled that!), and said no. Then I get:
>
>  init: prefdm main process (1763) terminated with status 1
>  init: prefdm main process ended, respawning
>
>  This was repeated a number of times, each with a different number 
>  (pid?), finally stopping with
>
>  init: prefdm respawning too fast, stopped
>
>  And hung. Power key shuts things down.
>
>  So what should ctrl-s and q do?
>
>  In interactive mode what MUST I run?
>
>  What is service local?
>
>  What is prefdm?
>
>  
It was the wrong "Nvidia" driver that I had installed that cause the 
problem.
Got the correct nvidia driver and everything is OK, Thanks for your help.

[David Burns]

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt; wrote:
>  I do notice that when iptables is starting there is some message
> about time
>  being off. But I can't catch it, it scrolls by too fast. 
Do control-s and q work during boot?
Dave

[Robert Moskowitz]

Jim wrote:
>  Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > David Burns wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz 
> >> <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt; wrote:
> >>
> >>> I do notice that when iptables is starting there is some message 
> >>> about time
> >>> being off. But I can't catch it, it scrolls by too fast.
> >>
> >> Do control-s and q work during boot?
> >
> > When do those play in?
> >
> >
> > I tried a number more times. Frequently, <altD> would not work until 
> > it hung after anacron. Sometimes it would. So the system is a micro 
> > notepad (www.oqo.com) and I disconnected it from its dock and my KVM 
> > and worked with its thumb pad.
> >
> > I was able to get the kernel menu by pressing an arrow key right at 
> > the beginning. Using and older kernel did not make a difference.
> >
> > cntl
> > s and q seemed to do nothing.
> >
> > I finally succeeded in getting it into interactive mode and, not 
> > really knowing what I was doing, selected which deamons to start and 
> > which not. I started what 'looked' important but not things like 
> > NetworkManager, Bluetooth, cron, ssh, and so forth. Finally it gets 
> > to anacron and I don't start that. Next is 'local', that seems to be 
> > where it hung before, so I say no. Next is webmin (hey, I thought I 
> > disabled that!), and said no. Then I get:
> >
> > init: prefdm main process (1763) terminated with status 1
> > init: prefdm main process ended, respawning
> >
> > This was repeated a number of times, each with a different number 
> > (pid?), finally stopping with
> >
> > init: prefdm respawning too fast, stopped
> >
> > And hung. Power key shuts things down.
> >
> > So what should ctrl-s and q do?
> >
> > In interactive mode what MUST I run?
> >
> > What is service local?
> >
> > What is prefdm?
> >
> >
>  It was the wrong "Nvidia" driver that I had installed that cause the 
>  problem.
>  Got the correct nvidia driver and everything is OK, Thanks for your help.  
No.
Openchrome.

[Jim]

David Burns wrote:
>  On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz
> <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt; wrote:
>    
> > David Burns wrote:
> >     
> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt;
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>       
> >>> I do notice that when iptables is starting there is some message about
> >>> time
> >>> being off. But I can't catch it, it scrolls by too fast.
> >>>
> >>>         
> >> Do control-s and q work during boot?
> >>       
> > When do those play in?
> > cntl
> > s and q seemed to do nothing.
> > So what should ctrl-s and q do?
> >     
>
>  I was  hoping control-s would stop the screen so you could read the
>  iptables message. Seems to me I have done that before, but not
>  recently. Maybe it no longer works.
>
>    
> > What is prefdm?
> >     
>  prefdm is trying to launch a desktop manager, I think. Have you tried
>  booting into text mode or single user? Adding a 3 to the end of the
>  kernel line will put you in text mode, I think. If X is your problem,
>  that would work around it.
>
>  Dave
>
>     
That's the big problem, Linux changes so fast that what was last year, 
is not for this year.
Going on to Google to do a search for something that is FC10, some guy 
makes a wild guess about what happen with the same problem on FC7. It 
just doesn't apply.
Now I know why my hair is getting grayer at the age of 69.

[David Burns]

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt; wrote:
>  David Burns wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt;
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I do notice that when iptables is starting there is some message about
> >> time
> >> being off. But I can't catch it, it scrolls by too fast.
> >>
> >
> > Do control-s and q work during boot?
>
>  When do those play in?
>  cntl
>  s and q seemed to do nothing.
>  So what should ctrl-s and q do? 
I was  hoping control-s would stop the screen so you could read the
iptables message. Seems to me I have done that before, but not
recently. Maybe it no longer works.

> What is prefdm? 
prefdm is trying to launch a desktop manager, I
think. Have you tried
booting into text mode or single user? Adding a 3 to the end of the
kernel line will put you in text mode, I think. If X is your problem,
that would work around it.

Dave

[Robert Moskowitz]

David Burns wrote:
>  On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz
> <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt; wrote:
>    
> > I do notice that when iptables is starting there is some message about time
> > being off. But I can't catch it, it scrolls by too fast.
> >     
>
>  Do control-s and q work during boot? 
When do those play in?


I tried a number more times. Frequently, <altD> would not work until it 
hung after anacron. Sometimes it would. So the system is a micro notepad 
(www.oqo.com) and I disconnected it from its dock and my KVM and worked 
with its thumb pad.

I was able to get the kernel menu by pressing an arrow key right at the 
beginning. Using and older kernel did not make a difference.

cntl
s and q seemed to do nothing.

I finally succeeded in getting it into interactive mode and, not really 
knowing what I was doing, selected which deamons to start and which not. 
I started what 'looked' important but not things like NetworkManager, 
Bluetooth, cron, ssh, and so forth. Finally it gets to anacron and I 
don't start that. Next is 'local', that seems to be where it hung 
before, so I say no. Next is webmin (hey, I thought I disabled that!), 
and said no. Then I get:

init: prefdm main process (1763) terminated with status 1
init: prefdm main process ended, respawning

This was repeated a number of times, each with a different number 
(pid?), finally stopping with

init: prefdm respawning too fast, stopped

And hung. Power key shuts things down.

So what should ctrl-s and q do?

In interactive mode what MUST I run?

What is service local?

What is prefdm?

[Robert Moskowitz]

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  Everything was working OK yesterday. I did do a yum update (had been
> a 
>  few days since the last one, but don't think I got a new kernel).
>
>  Now it just sits there after anacron started with an OK. 
If I press the power button, it goes through orderly shutdown.

>  What do I do to get this going???  
And I don't get a menu to select an earlier kernel. I tried pressing the 
space bar and such. <alt-d> is what I use to get past the progress bars 
to see what is happening.

I do notice that when iptables is starting there is some message about 
time being off. But I can't catch it, it scrolls by too fast.