Dear All,
How can one turn off automatic updates on F10?
Thanks in advance,
Paul
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Paul Smith phhs80@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
How can one turn off automatic updates on F10?
Do you mean turn off automatic update notifications? I'm pretty sure F10 doesn't have automatic updates turned on... just the notifications for the updates availability.
-jef
On Thursday 04 December 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Paul Smith phhs80@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
How can one turn off automatic updates on F10?
Do you mean turn off automatic update notifications? I'm pretty sure F10 doesn't have automatic updates turned on... just the notifications for the updates availability.
-jef
I just installed it, and when taking my initial tour, made note that the packagekit thingy does have a check mark to let it do it automatically. Potentially a dangerous option IMO, but it wasn't checked when I looked, nor when I saved & quit it.
However, there is 3 things we need to bz about the installer.
1. It did NOT setup a root account at all, and
2. it should add the initial user to the sudoers file, because without that you can't add any other users, nor can you edit anything to change the situation.
My solution was to reboot into single mode and take care of all that, but why should we have to jump through a hoop a new bee has no clue is even there?
3. It also did not setup a working non-dhcp network, it didn't even ask me about networking. When I looked at ifcfg-eth0, the ONBOOT=no was still there, even after I'd run system-config-network to set all the local addresses it needs to work here.
So there are 3 separate "should have done its" right there.
I haven't tried to do anything fauncy as its an 8 year old box with a $13 ati rage based video card. And not fancy enough to do that stuff anyway. But other than the above, everything I ran, ran slow but well.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Gene Heskett gene.heskett@verizon.net wrote:
However, there is 3 things we need to bz about the installer.
It did NOT setup a root account at all, and
it should add the initial user to the sudoers file, because without that
you can't add any other users, nor can you edit anything to change the situation.
My solution was to reboot into single mode and take care of all that, but why should we have to jump through a hoop a new bee has no clue is even there?
That seems unexpected to me. This is the full dvd installer? or a live iso. I'll have to do another fresh install to confirm.
- It also did not setup a working non-dhcp network, it didn't even ask me
about networking. When I looked at ifcfg-eth0, the ONBOOT=no was still there, even after I'd run system-config-network to set all the local addresses it needs to work here.
I'm pretty sure I can configure my current F10 install to use static ip with s-c-network...when I do the next fresh install off the dvd iso I'll make sure to test that.
-jef
On Thursday 04 December 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Gene Heskett gene.heskett@verizon.net
wrote:
However, there is 3 things we need to bz about the installer.
It did NOT setup a root account at all, and
it should add the initial user to the sudoers file, because without
that you can't add any other users, nor can you edit anything to change the situation.
My solution was to reboot into single mode and take care of all that, but why should we have to jump through a hoop a new bee has no clue is even there?
That seems unexpected to me. This is the full dvd installer? or a live iso. I'll have to do another fresh install to confirm.
Yes. The same torrent dl (Fedora 10 i386.DVD.iso) that I burnt 2 copies of, the both summed ok, but _that_ drive didn't like them. I switched to another Lite_on dual layer drive and it was fine.
- It also did not setup a working non-dhcp network, it didn't even ask me
about networking. When I looked at ifcfg-eth0, the ONBOOT=no was still there, even after I'd run system-config-network to set all the local addresses it needs to work here.
I'm pretty sure I can configure my current F10 install to use static ip with s-c-network...when I do the next fresh install off the dvd iso I'll make sure to test that.
S-C-network didn't ask if you want it onboot or not, like its maybe only 2/3rds there or something, but there were no errors that got my attention. I just vim'd the ifcfg-eth0 file to change the no to a yes, service network restart and it was then fine. Bear in mind I was doing all this in the single user mode too. Effects of that? Don't have a clue.
-jef
Thanks Jef.
On Friday 05 December 2008 02:47:03 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Thursday 04 December 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Paul Smith phhs80@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
How can one turn off automatic updates on F10?
yum remove PackageKIt. Then you have to handle updates yourself.
However, there is 3 things we need to bz about the installer.
- It did NOT setup a root account at all, and
Did for me and I've just done an install. Just can't login to the roo account using the GUI.
- It also did not setup a working non-dhcp network, it didn't even ask me
about networking. When I looked at ifcfg-eth0, the ONBOOT=no was still there, even after I'd run system-config-network to set all the local addresses it needs to work here.
Use the askmethod parameter to the anaconda boot. It will then ask you for the static IP info and NetworkManager will set it.
Tony
So there are 3 separate "should have done its" right there.
I haven't tried to do anything fauncy as its an 8 year old box with a $13 ati rage based video card. And not fancy enough to do that stuff anyway. But other than the above, everything I ran, ran slow but well.
-- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Give your child mental blocks for Christmas.
On Friday 05 December 2008, Tony Molloy wrote:
On Friday 05 December 2008 02:47:03 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Thursday 04 December 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Paul Smith phhs80@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
How can one turn off automatic updates on F10?
yum remove PackageKIt. Then you have to handle updates yourself.
Automatic needs to be enabled, its the notifications of availability I'd bet he is talking about.
However, there is 3 things we need to bz about the installer.
- It did NOT setup a root account at all, and
Did for me and I've just done an install. Just can't login to the roo account using the GUI.
I knew about that, but my clue was when it asked me for a root passwd to do something, and thinking it was a sudo question I gave it the only passwd I'd entered during the whole install, the one I'd setup for my wife's account since I intend to let her use it to get her feet wet. She isn't exactly "computer literate", lacking the nearly 35 years experience I have.
And got the passwd failed message, twice in 2 attempts. At that point I knew I needed to go fix some pretty basic stuff, and rebooted to the single mode to setup a few more accounts and passwds.
- It also did not setup a working non-dhcp network, it didn't even ask me
about networking. When I looked at ifcfg-eth0, the ONBOOT=no was still there, even after I'd run system-config-network to set all the local addresses it needs to work here.
Use the askmethod parameter to the anaconda boot. It will then ask you for the static IP info and NetworkManager will set it.
Again, if this is something that must be done, how is a new bee to know that? The install dvd screens did not have a release notes button on the lewer left corner as previous versions have had. I thought that was odd also.
I also don't believe I found NM or network running when I as single user, did a 'system-config-services' to shut off the bluetooth stuff and some other nfs related stuffs, resource wasters in a 372 megabyte machine.
Tony
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On Friday 05 December 2008 11:09:10 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Friday 05 December 2008, Tony Molloy wrote:
On Friday 05 December 2008 02:47:03 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Thursday 04 December 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Paul Smith phhs80@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
OK just got my main machine installed with Fedora 10. This is my first e-mail from it. ;-)
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- It did NOT setup a root account at all, and
Did for me and I've just done an install. Just can't login to the roo account using the GUI.
I knew about that, but my clue was when it asked me for a root passwd to do something, and thinking it was a sudo question I gave it the only passwd I'd entered during the whole install, the one I'd setup for my wife's account since I intend to let her use it to get her feet wet. She isn't exactly "computer literate", lacking the nearly 35 years experience I have.
You must have entered 2 passwords during the install.
1. the root password 2. A local account password ( your wifes )
And got the passwd failed message, twice in 2 attempts. At that point I knew I needed to go fix some pretty basic stuff, and rebooted to the single mode to setup a few more accounts and passwds.
- It also did not setup a working non-dhcp network, it didn't even ask
me about networking. When I looked at ifcfg-eth0, the ONBOOT=no was still there, even after I'd run system-config-network to set all the local addresses it needs to work here.
Use the askmethod parameter to the anaconda boot. It will then ask you for the static IP info and NetworkManager will set it.
Again, if this is something that must be done, how is a new bee to know that? The install dvd screens did not have a release notes button on the lewer left corner as previous versions have had. I thought that was odd also.
Yep have to agree totally with you there. It took me several attempts to get my first install working with static IP address. This should be mentioned on the initial anaconda screen.
I also don't believe I found NM or network running when I as single user, did a 'system-config-services' to shut off the bluetooth stuff and some other nfs related stuffs, resource wasters in a 372 megabyte machine.
In single user mode the network services are not started by default.
Stick with it. It looks like a really good release.
Tony
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Paul Smith phhs80@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
How can one turn off automatic updates on F10?
Do you mean turn off automatic update notifications? I'm pretty sure F10 doesn't have automatic updates turned on... just the notifications for the updates availability.
I unchecked 'PackageKit Update Applet' under 'Startup Programs' in gnome-session-properties to get rid of that annoyance.
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