wireshark installed but not available

[Robert Moskowitz]

I installed wireshark on my F20/Gnome notebook, and yum has kept it updated:

]# grep wire yum*
Jan 08 12:34:15 Installed: wireshark-1.10.5-1.fc20.x86_64
Feb 01 20:15:51 wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64: 100
Feb 01 22:06:04 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64
Feb 27 13:16:45 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-3.fc20.x86_64
Mar 21 19:09:59 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-1.fc20.x86_64
Mar 28 18:31:25 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-2.fc20.x86_64

Wireshark does not show as an application.  I don't see a bin for 
wireshark, only a bunch of libs.

What may be missing here?

[Ahmad Samir]

On 7 April 2014 15:34, Garry T. Williams <gtwilliams(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  I believe that usermod(8) requires *all* supplementary groups to be
>  mentioned in its -G parameter.
>  
Not necessary if you use the '-a' ('--append') option with 'usermod
-G' (this is mentioned in the man page in the -G option explanation).
:)

-- 
Ahmad Samir

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 04/07/2014 10:54 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>  Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > ARGH!!!!  I hate logging out!!!  I have too many apps running 'just 
> > right' to
> > logout more than say once a month.  (really when I have to reboot 
> > when things
> > get doggy)
>
>  If you wish to temporarily start a program under a new group you can 
>  call "newgrp" to create a new terminal session to do so. 
Thanks!  Did a
"man newgrp" to learn a little about it and gave it a 
try.  "wireshark &" from that terminal window is accessing the 
interfaces.  So I can use this as a workaround until the next login.

[Michael Cronenworth]

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  ARGH!!!!  I hate logging out!!!  I have too many apps running
> 'just right' to
>  logout more than say once a month.  (really when I have to reboot when things
>  get doggy) 
If you wish to temporarily start a program under a new group you can call 
"newgrp" to create a new terminal session to do so.

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 04/07/2014 09:48 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote:
>  On 7 April 2014 14:43, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>      ARGH!!!!  I hate logging out!!!  I have too many apps running
>      'just right' to logout more than say once a month.  (really when I
>      have to reboot when things get doggy)
>
>      sigh.
>
>
>  What do you think this is, Windows? ;)
>
>  Either open a new console and run wireshark from there, or run the 
>  following at an existing prompt to "re-initialise" the shell:
>  |exec su -l $USER| 
Does not seem to do anything.  Wireshark still not finding the 
interfaces.  Well, 'who' now lists more logins for me!

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 04/07/2014 09:48 AM, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
>  2014-04-07 16:43 GMT+03:00 Robert Moskowitz
> <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt;:
> > ARGH!!!!  I hate logging out!!!  I have too many apps running 'just right'
> > to logout more than say once a month.  (really when I have to reboot when
> > things get doggy)
> >
> > sigh.
>  For now, you might be able to perform the capture by running tcpdump
>  from commad line as root, and telling it to write packets into a file.
>  Wireshark can open such a file with no additional privileges. E.g.
>  something like this:
>
>  tcpdump -i enp3s0 -w packets 
There is always tcpdump.  We do get spoiled with graphical interfaces, 
don't we...

hmm.

>  The open the packets file in wireshark.
>
>  -Joonas

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 04/07/2014 09:48 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote:
>  On 7 April 2014 14:43, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>      ARGH!!!!  I hate logging out!!!  I have too many apps running
>      'just right' to logout more than say once a month.  (really when I
>      have to reboot when things get doggy)
>
>      sigh.
>
>
>  What do you think this is, Windows? ;) 
No.  And that is why I frequently go a month between boots.  Despite all 
of my travel and suspending (I figured out if I first switch off the 
external monitor before suspending, it works on this Lenovo).

>  Either open a new console and run wireshark from there, 
I have never been successful running gnome on the alternative consoles.  
Or perhaps, rather, I gave this up as it would always crash things for 
me and I thus missed out on it now working?

>  or run the following at an existing prompt to
> "re-initialise" the shell:
>  |exec su -l $USER| 
Worth a try...

[Joonas Sarajärvi]

2014-04-07 16:43 GMT+03:00 Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt;:
>  ARGH!!!!  I hate logging out!!!  I have too many apps running
> 'just right'
>  to logout more than say once a month.  (really when I have to reboot when
>  things get doggy)
>
>  sigh. 
For now, you might be able to perform the capture by running tcpdump
from commad line as root, and telling it to write packets into a file.
Wireshark can open such a file with no additional privileges. E.g.
something like this:

tcpdump -i enp3s0 -w packets

The open the packets file in wireshark.

-Joonas

[Andy Blanchard]

On 7 April 2014 14:43, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt; wrote:

>  ARGH!!!!  I hate logging out!!!  I have too many apps running
> 'just right'
>  to logout more than say once a month.  (really when I have to reboot when
>  things get doggy)
>
>  sigh. 

What do you think this is, Windows? ;)

Either open a new console and run wireshark from there, or run the
following at an existing prompt to "re-initialise" the shell:

exec su -l $USER

-- 
Andy

*The only person to have all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe*

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 04/07/2014 09:34 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote:
>  On 4-7-14 09:19:22 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > So now I can run wireshark, but it reports permissions denied for
> > dumpcap and to run:
> >
> > usermod -a -G wireshark rgm
> >
> > So now I am part of the wireshark group (also wheel group), but
> > still no access to any interface.
>  I believe that usermod(8) requires *all* supplementary groups to be
>  mentioned in its -G parameter.
>
>      -G, --groups GROUP1[,GROUP2,...[,GROUPN]]]
>          A list of supplementary groups which the user is also a member of.
>          Each group is separated from the next by a comma, with no
>          intervening whitespace. 
I do not understand this point.  Running the above command did not 
remove me from wheel, for example.

>  Also, you will need to log out and back in of your desktop session
>  before your session "knows" you are in a new group. 
ARGH!!!!  I hate logging out!!!  I have too many apps running 'just 
right' to logout more than say once a month.  (really when I have to 
reboot when things get doggy)

sigh.

[Frank Elsner]

On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 09:19:22 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  
>  On 04/07/2014 09:07 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote:
>  > The wireshark package only provides the text mode interface, 
>  > "tshark".  If you are looking for the GUI application,
> "wireshark", 
>  > you'll also need to install wireshark-gnome.
>  
>  Well that is 'obvious'  After the fact.
>  
>  So now I can run wireshark, but it reports permissions denied for 
>  dumpcap and to run:
>  
>  usermod -a -G wireshark rgm
>  
>  So now I am part of the wireshark group (also wheel group), but still no 
>  access to any interface. 
Maybe you need to logout and login again.


--Frank

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 04/07/2014 09:20 AM, Jon Ingason wrote:
>  2014-04-07 15:01, Robert Moskowitz skrev:
> > I installed wireshark on my F20/Gnome notebook, and yum has kept it
> > updated:
> >
> > ]# grep wire yum*
> > Jan 08 12:34:15 Installed: wireshark-1.10.5-1.fc20.x86_64
> > Feb 01 20:15:51 wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64: 100
> > Feb 01 22:06:04 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64
> > Feb 27 13:16:45 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-3.fc20.x86_64
> > Mar 21 19:09:59 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-1.fc20.x86_64
> > Mar 28 18:31:25 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-2.fc20.x86_64
> >
> > Wireshark does not show as an application.  I don't see a bin for
> > wireshark, only a bunch of libs.
> >
> > What may be missing here?
> >
> >
>  Well in that case you could just:
>
>  rpm -qi wireshark
>
>  for more information. Then you could do:
>
>  yum search wireshark
>
>  to see if there are more packages to download. 
It  is obvious now to note that just because you 'yum install'ed a 
package, you don't necessarily have everything to use it.  I have made 
note of this in my personal tutorial file.

Definitely a 'duh' moment.

[Garry Williams]

On 4-7-14 09:19:22 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  So now I can run wireshark, but it reports permissions denied for
>  dumpcap and to run:
>  
>  usermod -a -G wireshark rgm
>  
>  So now I am part of the wireshark group (also wheel group), but
>  still no access to any interface. 
I believe that usermod(8) requires *all* supplementary groups to be
mentioned in its -G parameter.

   -G, --groups GROUP1[,GROUP2,...[,GROUPN]]]
       A list of supplementary groups which the user is also a member of.
       Each group is separated from the next by a comma, with no
       intervening whitespace.

Also, you will need to log out and back in of your desktop session
before your session "knows" you are in a new group.

-- 
Garry T. Williams

[Jon Ingason]

2014-04-07 15:01, Robert Moskowitz skrev:
>  I installed wireshark on my F20/Gnome notebook, and yum has kept it
>  updated:
>  
>  ]# grep wire yum*
>  Jan 08 12:34:15 Installed: wireshark-1.10.5-1.fc20.x86_64
>  Feb 01 20:15:51 wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64: 100
>  Feb 01 22:06:04 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64
>  Feb 27 13:16:45 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-3.fc20.x86_64
>  Mar 21 19:09:59 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-1.fc20.x86_64
>  Mar 28 18:31:25 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-2.fc20.x86_64
>  
>  Wireshark does not show as an application.  I don't see a bin for
>  wireshark, only a bunch of libs.
>  
>  What may be missing here?
>  
>   
Well in that case you could just:

rpm -qi wireshark

for more information. Then you could do:

yum search wireshark

to see if there are more packages to download.

-- 
Regards

Jon Ingason

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 04/07/2014 09:07 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote:
>  The wireshark package only provides the text mode interface, 
>  "tshark".  If you are looking for the GUI application, "wireshark", 
>  you'll also need to install wireshark-gnome. 
Well that is 'obvious'  After the fact.

So now I can run wireshark, but it reports permissions denied for 
dumpcap and to run:

usermod -a -G wireshark rgm

So now I am part of the wireshark group (also wheel group), but still no 
access to any interface.

>  Regards,
>  Andy
>
>
>  On 7 April 2014 14:01, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>      I installed wireshark on my F20/Gnome notebook, and yum has kept
>      it updated:
>
>      ]# grep wire yum*
>      Jan 08 12:34:15 Installed: wireshark-1.10.5-1.fc20.x86_64
>      Feb 01 20:15:51 wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64: 100
>      Feb 01 22:06:04 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64
>      Feb 27 13:16:45 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-3.fc20.x86_64
>      Mar 21 19:09:59 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-1.fc20.x86_64
>      Mar 28 18:31:25 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-2.fc20.x86_64
>
>      Wireshark does not show as an application.  I don't see a bin for
>      wireshark, only a bunch of libs.
>
>      What may be missing here?
>
>
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[Ed Greshko]

On 04/07/14 21:07, Andy Blanchard wrote:
>  The wireshark package only provides the text mode interface,
> "tshark".  If you are looking for the GUI application, "wireshark",
> you'll also need to install wireshark-gnome. 
And, it should also be mentioned, it would be wise to add oneself to the wireshark group.


>  Regards,
>  Andy
>
>
>  On 7 April 2014 14:01, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>      I installed wireshark on my F20/Gnome notebook, and yum has kept it updated:
>
>      ]# grep wire yum*
>      Jan 08 12:34:15 Installed: wireshark-1.10.5-1.fc20.x86_64
>      Feb 01 20:15:51 wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64: 100
>      Feb 01 22:06:04 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64
>      Feb 27 13:16:45 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-3.fc20.x86_64
>      Mar 21 19:09:59 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-1.fc20.x86_64
>      Mar 28 18:31:25 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-2.fc20.x86_64
>
>      Wireshark does not show as an application.  I don't see a bin for wireshark, only
> a bunch of libs.
>
>      What may be missing here?
>
>
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[Andy Blanchard]

The wireshark package only provides the text mode interface, "tshark".  If
you are looking for the GUI application, "wireshark", you'll also need to
install wireshark-gnome.

Regards,
Andy


On 7 April 2014 14:01, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt; wrote:

>  I installed wireshark on my F20/Gnome notebook, and yum has kept it
>  updated:
>
>  ]# grep wire yum*
>  Jan 08 12:34:15 Installed: wireshark-1.10.5-1.fc20.x86_64
>  Feb 01 20:15:51 wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64: 100
>  Feb 01 22:06:04 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-2.fc20.x86_64
>  Feb 27 13:16:45 Updated: wireshark-1.10.5-3.fc20.x86_64
>  Mar 21 19:09:59 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-1.fc20.x86_64
>  Mar 28 18:31:25 Updated: wireshark-1.10.6-2.fc20.x86_64
>
>  Wireshark does not show as an application.  I don't see a bin for
>  wireshark, only a bunch of libs.
>
>  What may be missing here?
>
>
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