...I think. I feel a bit boobish. When I started using Linux 10 or more years ago so there is little excuse for the situation in which I find myself. I have a (now) small network in my home. It used to be a gateway/firewall system, a mail server and a couple of laptops. The firewall and mail systems were old (AMD K6) systems running Core 3. Don't ask about the laptops. In early April we had a power outage. When the power came back the firewall was dead-dead-dead. By dead I mean both MoBo AND the system disk were dead. I had a Windoze box running on an Athlon and which I was planning to use exclusively to run Photoshop. I got rid of Windoze, did a full install of Core 6, which I found to be an exceedingly difficult evolution.
Because I had some difficulty with the full install of Core 6 the question is what is the likelihood of a successful upgrade straight from Core 3 to Core 6. So far it isn't looking that good. I booted up the Core 6 DVD started an upgrade and things stopped at the checking dependencies point. There was no appearance of the progress bar, after 30 minutes, nor did there seem to be any activity on he DVD drive.
I am hoping not to have to do a chain of installs starting with the system at Core 3 --> Core 4 --> Core 5 --> Core 6. If it is even possible to get core 4 and core 5 installation media. [Checking on installation media availability is next.]
Any practical advice would be more than welcome.
AdTHANXvance,
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David L. Gehrt writes:
Because I had some difficulty with the full install of Core 6 the question is what is the likelihood of a successful upgrade straight from Core 3 to Core 6. So far it isn't looking that good. I booted up the Core 6 DVD started an upgrade and things stopped at the checking dependencies point. There was no appearance of the progress bar, after 30 minutes, nor did there seem to be any activity on he DVD drive.
I am hoping not to have to do a chain of installs starting with the system at Core 3 --> Core 4 --> Core 5 --> Core 6. If it is even possible to get core 4 and core 5 installation media. [Checking on installation media availability is next.]
Any practical advice would be more than welcome.
Have patience.
Really. You say it's an old K6. It's entirely possible that it can take +30 minutes for Anaconda to figure out what it wants to upgrade, on a slow box. I quite distinctly recall being pissed myself, regarding this subject.
I believe that you'll have a shell prompt on one of the ALT-VTs, probably ALT-F2. If you switch there and run "top", you're likely to observe Anaconda spinning its wheels, for a good part of an hour.
But, before you try this again, there are a couple of things you'll need to do, in order to make sure things go smooth. Boot FC3 again, and make sure your filesystems are clean. Touch /.forcefsck then reboot, to recheck all filesystems. Then, run "rpm --rebuilddb", then finally reboot into the FC6 installer.
And go out for dinner while the stupid thing figures out what it wants to.
At 5:52 PM -0700 4/29/07, David L. Gehrt wrote: ...
Because I had some difficulty with the full install of Core 6 the question is what is the likelihood of a successful upgrade straight from Core 3 to Core 6. So far it isn't looking that good. I booted up the Core 6 DVD started an upgrade and things stopped at the checking dependencies point. There was no appearance of the progress bar, after 30 minutes, nor did there seem to be any activity on he DVD drive.
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I'm running FC6 on an Athlon 1.2 GHz, but I did an upgrade from FC5.
30 minutes may not be enough. You could try waiting longer, or doing a smaller install, followed by yum'ing the package groups you need. (After install, do "yum update yum", then "yum update", then "yum grouplist", then "yum groupinstall <available groups you want>".)
How much memory is in the machine? I have 512 MB. If you have less than 256 MB, be sure to do a text install.
Because I had some difficulty with the full install of Core 6 the question is what is the likelihood of a successful upgrade straight from Core 3 to Core 6. So far it isn't looking that good. I booted up the Core 6 DVD started an upgrade and things stopped at the checking dependencies point. There was no appearance of the progress bar, after 30 minutes, nor did there seem to be any activity on he DVD drive.
My old K6 test machine took 128 minutes (2 hours plus) to do an install of FC6
It is probably faster to do a minimal install, and then to do stepwise installs of the packages you want. It, at least, will *seem* to be faster.
Wolfe
On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 21:52 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
Because I had some difficulty with the full install of Core 6 the question is what is the likelihood of a successful upgrade straight from Core 3 to Core 6. So far it isn't looking that good. I booted up the Core 6 DVD started an upgrade and things stopped at the checking dependencies point. There was no appearance of the progress bar, after 30 minutes, nor did there seem to be any activity on he DVD drive.
My old K6 test machine took 128 minutes (2 hours plus) to do an install of FC6
It is probably faster to do a minimal install, and then to do stepwise installs of the packages you want. It, at least, will *seem* to be faster.
Wolfe
A with a recent partial install of FC6 on a PII-233/512, after lunch I put on a long movie. Both the movie and the install finished about the same time.
On a PII-400 a full install, I think it took 2 movies...
Simon
On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:52 -0700, David L. Gehrt wrote:
I got rid of Windoze, did a full install of Core 6, which I found to be an exceedingly difficult evolution.
Because I had some difficulty with the full install of Core 6 the question is what is the likelihood of a successful upgrade straight from Core 3 to Core 6.
You didn't say what the problem was (beyond the long wait - which might just need more time to complete, you can switch over to the other virtual consoles and see if anything is doing anything), but I'd find updating far more of a chore than installing. You've got to resolve a lot of *old* problems by yourself, instead of starting out fresh.
I would think that installing another, older, distro, is going to strike a similar problem (slow for it to get going). Plus even more delays as an update process (to a later distro release) figures out what it has to do.
I found the easiest way to install FC6 was to pick one of the prearranged package sets it offers you, and leave it as is. Any attempt to customise it often bombed out part way through, and wasted all of my time. I'd remove or add things, afterwards. *After* I'd got a working system, and updated packages.
On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:52 -0700, David L. Gehrt wrote:
...I think. I feel a bit boobish. When I started using Linux 10 or more years ago so there is little excuse for the situation in which I find myself. I have a (now) small network in my home. It used to be a gateway/firewall system, a mail server and a couple of laptops. The firewall and mail systems were old (AMD K6) systems running Core 3. Don't ask about the laptops. In early April we had a power outage. When the power came back the firewall was dead-dead-dead. By dead I mean both MoBo AND the system disk were dead. I had a Windoze box running on an Athlon and which I was planning to use exclusively to run Photoshop. I got rid of Windoze, did a full install of Core 6, which I found to be an exceedingly difficult evolution.
Because I had some difficulty with the full install of Core 6 the question is what is the likelihood of a successful upgrade straight from Core 3 to Core 6. So far it isn't looking that good. I booted up the Core 6 DVD started an upgrade and things stopped at the checking dependencies point. There was no appearance of the progress bar, after 30 minutes, nor did there seem to be any activity on he DVD drive.
I am hoping not to have to do a chain of installs starting with the system at Core 3 --> Core 4 --> Core 5 --> Core 6. If it is even possible to get core 4 and core 5 installation media. [Checking on installation media availability is next.]
Any practical advice would be more than welcome.
AdTHANXvance,
The upgrade you suggest is unlikely to be very successful. What I would do is make tars files of root, etc and you home directories onto a CD or other repository. Then install FC6 and copy what needs to be copied from the expanded tar files on your new machine. For home directories I would use tar -k which replaces only files that don't already exist so the gnome configuration files in your home directory will be left alone.
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