Kmail

[Richard Ibbotson]

Hi

I suppose I could ask this question on the KDE list but their Mailman 
software is doing some strange things just now. Since I upgraded to 
Fedora 23 I find that I get a message in Kmail when I try to delete 
some mail

“Do you really want to delete the selected message ? “

I have to click on this hundreds of times to delete any unwanted mail. 
Can anyone suggest which setting to change to get rid of this ? KDE 
4.14.14 Kmail 4.14.10. No. I do_not want to know about any other mail 
app. Just some help with this one.

-- 
Richard
Sheffield UK

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 13:24 +0000, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
>  Hi
>  
>  I suppose I could ask this question on the KDE list but their
>  Mailman 
>  software is doing some strange things just now. Since I upgraded to 
>  Fedora 23 I find that I get a message in Kmail when I try to delete 
>  some mail
>  
>  “Do you really want to delete the selected message ? “
>  
>  I have to click on this hundreds of times to delete any unwanted
>  mail. 
>  Can anyone suggest which setting to change to get rid of this ? KDE 
>  4.14.14 Kmail 4.14.10. No. I do_not want to know about any other
>  mail app. Just some help with this one. 
Can't really help since I gave up on Kmail years ago, but you might
want to mention at least what kind of account this is (POP, IMAP, ...)
as it could make a difference.

Why do you think the KDE list isn't working? I haven't noticed any
problems (though there doesn't appear to be any traffic on it today).

poc

[Richard Ibbotson]

On Saturday 23 January 2016 13:51:26 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  Why do you think the KDE list isn't working? I haven't
> noticed any
>  problems (though there doesn't appear to be any traffic on it
>  today). 
It was doing some strange things earlier on. Seems to be fine now. 
Apparently the way to fix the Kmail issue is to hold down Shift + 
delete at the same time. Not something that you would know about 
normally. Never mind. Working now. Thank you.

-- 
Richard

[William Oliver]

On Sat, 23 Jan 2016, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> [snip]
>  Can't really help since I gave up on Kmail years ago, but you might
>  want to mention at least what kind of account this is (POP, IMAP, ...)
>  as it could make a difference.
>
>  Why do you think the KDE list isn't working? I haven't noticed any
>  problems (though there doesn't appear to be any traffic on it today).
>
>  poc
>  

Just out of curiosity, what mail client do you use?  For umpteen zillion years, I have
been an old-fashioned pine/alpine user, and I'm very happy with it.  But the text/ssh
thing is getting less and less sufficient.

I normally ssh to a virtual machine I have rented as my mail and web server, and read mail
in a terminal.  I'm very happy with this, mostly because there's little chance
I'll accidentally download something bad.  It's hard to pervert ascii text.  And,
mostly, I don't need to see whatever cute graphics and banners people add to their
emails -- at least the ones I get.

But... I'm having to deal with images and attachments more and more that I *do* want
to see.  In order to view the attachment and all I have is pine, I have to download it on
to the Chicago machine, then sftp it to my laptop, and then open it manually.  I have in
the past set up vnc to so everything on the server, but I'm just not enthusiastic
about opening attachments or using a browser on my server.  If I open an attachment, I
want to do it on my laptop.

So, I set up roundcube on the server, and that allows me to retrieve attachments more
easily.  I'm reasonably happy with that.

But I've been thinking about setting up a "real" client.  I tried Kmail, and
it "kinda" worked, but it's hassle factor seemed a bit high.  I have about
15 specialty mail addresses (e.g. one each for different professional organizations,
addresses for family members, a couple of throwaways for shopping, etc), and it seemed
that *one* of them always had a glitch in KMail.

billo

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 08:34 -0600, vendor(a)billoblog.com wrote:
>  >[snip]
>  > Can't really help since I gave up on Kmail years ago, but you might
>  > want to mention at least what kind of account this is (POP, IMAP,
>  ...)
>  > as it could make a difference.
>  >
>  > Why do you think the KDE list isn't working? I haven't noticed any
>  > problems (though there doesn't appear to be any traffic on it
>  today).
>  >
>  > poc
>  >
>  
>  
>  Just out of curiosity, what mail client do you use?  For umpteen
>  zillion years, I have been an old-fashioned pine/alpine user, and I'm
>  very happy with it.  But the text/ssh thing is getting less and less
>  sufficient. 
Evolution. I've been using it for a good many years as initially it was
the only decent IMAP client available (for some values of "decent") and
although it has its quirks it's on the whole very stable and well-
supported, even if you don't use Gnome, which I don't (I prefer KDE).
Plus if you need access to Exchange mailboxes it's really the only game
in town on Linux. Not an issue for me but I know a lot of people depend
on this.

Note that it connects to the gnome-keyring system, which can be an
issue if you use SDDM (which doesn't currently support it) so I'm
sticking with KDM for now. There are workarounds if don't want to do
that, and of course with GDM it Just Works.

The Evolution list is at https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolut
ion-list so take a look at the archives to get some of the flavour. We
try to be helpful to newbies and the lead developer is active on the
list.

poc

[Sylvia Sánchez]

I'm using SDDM and Cinnamon and Plasma. In both Kwallet and the Gnome ring
bother me. Less than weeks ago though.



Cheers,
Sylvia

On Saturday, 23 January 2016, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

>  On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 08:34 -0600, vendor(a)billoblog.com
> <javascript:;>
>  wrote:
>  > >[snip]
>  > > Can't really help since I gave up on Kmail years ago, but you might
>  > > want to mention at least what kind of account this is (POP, IMAP,
>  > ...)
>  > > as it could make a difference.
>  > >
>  > > Why do you think the KDE list isn't working? I haven't noticed any
>  > > problems (though there doesn't appear to be any traffic on it
>  > today).
>  > >
>  > > poc
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  > Just out of curiosity, what mail client do you use?  For umpteen
>  > zillion years, I have been an old-fashioned pine/alpine user, and I'm
>  > very happy with it.  But the text/ssh thing is getting less and less
>  > sufficient.
>
>  Evolution. I've been using it for a good many years as initially it was
>  the only decent IMAP client available (for some values of "decent") and
>  although it has its quirks it's on the whole very stable and well-
>  supported, even if you don't use Gnome, which I don't (I prefer KDE).
>  Plus if you need access to Exchange mailboxes it's really the only game
>  in town on Linux. Not an issue for me but I know a lot of people depend
>  on this.
>
>  Note that it connects to the gnome-keyring system, which can be an
>  issue if you use SDDM (which doesn't currently support it) so I'm
>  sticking with KDM for now. There are workarounds if don't want to do
>  that, and of course with GDM it Just Works.
>
>  The Evolution list is at https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolut
>  ion-list so take a look at the archives to get some of the flavour. We
>  try to be helpful to newbies and the lead developer is active on the
>  list.
>
>  poc
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[Richard Ibbotson]

On Saturday 23 January 2016 08:34:16 vendor(a)billoblog.com wrote:
>  On Sat, 23 Jan 2016, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  >[snip]
>  >
>  > Can't really help since I gave up on Kmail years ago, but you
>  > might
>  > want to mention at least what kind of account this is (POP, IMAP,
>  > ...) as it could make a difference.
>  > 
>  > Why do you think the KDE list isn't working? I haven't noticed any
>  > problems (though there doesn't appear to be any traffic on it
>  > today).
>  > 
>  > poc
>  
>  Just out of curiosity, what mail client do you use?  For umpteen
>  zillion years, I have been an old-fashioned pine/alpine user, and
>  I'm very happy with it.  But the text/ssh thing is getting less and
>  less sufficient. 
Claws mail and Evolution can be good. But I still like Alpine and 
still find a lot of Mutt users out there. Seems like a lot of people 
still like Thunderbird.

-- 
Richard

[Timothy Murphy]

Richard Ibbotson wrote:

>  Claws mail and Evolution can be good. But I still like Alpine and
>  still find a lot of Mutt users out there. Seems like a lot of people
>  still like Thunderbird. 
I'd just like KMail to work properly.
I've been hoping for years that all the petty problems would be sorted out.
KAddressBook actually seems to me to be as bad now as it has ever been,
which is saying something.
I think the way everything is mixed up with akonadi,
which itself is far too complicated, is probably the heart of the problem.

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
gayleard /at/ eircom.net
School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Very likely.  I just had to delete a bunch of akonadi config things
because it wouldn't stop by itself.  Not even changing sessions  (I
use Plasma at times but most of times it's Cinnamon my desktop).
I would be very happy if one day KDE developers dump Akonadi
altogether and use something else, simpler.


Cheers,
Sylvia

On 23/01/2016, Timothy Murphy <gayleard(a)eircom.net&gt; wrote:
>  Richard Ibbotson wrote:
>
> > Claws mail and Evolution can be good. But I still like Alpine and
> > still find a lot of Mutt users out there. Seems like a lot of people
> > still like Thunderbird.
>
>  I'd just like KMail to work properly.
>  I've been hoping for years that all the petty problems would be sorted out.
>  KAddressBook actually seems to me to be as bad now as it has ever been,
>  which is saying something.
>  I think the way everything is mixed up with akonadi,
>  which itself is far too complicated, is probably the heart of the problem.
>
>  --
>  Timothy Murphy
>  gayleard /at/ eircom.net
>  School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin
>
>
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