Anne Wilson wrote:
Considering how many of us use laptops, I wonder if Adeona might be a useful package to have in the stable? It's a laptop recovery tool, for use after loss.
adeona is a nice package. now, because of opendht, it is still in a state that would be more of a users decision to add and not something that would be that benafical for a fedora inclusion. [think kde4]
adeona is something that could be helpful in recovery of a laptop, but it is more of an individual's choice.
as was discussed last year on this list, on a linux system, it may not be highly efficient. how many thieves are intelligent enough to use linux?
if laptop was stolen just to be sold, linux is probably first thing to be removed and there goes adeona.
if you have your laptop setup so that it will boot up and connect to internet with out user intervention, then by all means, install adeona. then if it gets stolen, pray that crook is dome enough to power up with an internet connect.
On Saturday 28 March 2009 18:02:48 g wrote:
as was discussed last year on this list, on a linux system, it may not be highly efficient. how many thieves are intelligent enough to use linux?
How intelligent do you need to be, to hit a recognisable icon for Firefox? When netbooks with linux first came out they came with instructions on how to remove it and install windows. To their surprise only 27% of users did (no, I don't know how they got their figures). That means 73% of users could do all they needed to do without worrying that it was linux.
Anne
Anne Wilson wrote:
How intelligent do you need to be, to hit a recognisable icon for Firefox?
and you have your laptop automatically log you in and your desktop appears with firefox icon?
When netbooks with linux first came out they came with instructions on how to remove it and install windows. To their surprise only 27% of users did (no, I don't know how they got their figures). That means 73% of users could do all they needed to do without worrying that it was linux.
and you are talking about someone who *bought* their laptop with linux installed.
i am not against idea of adeona. i think it is a great idea.
i was only talking about some dumb ass that steals someone's laptop and then tries to use it.
but then i guess that crooks and thieves are different on your side of 'the big pond'.
and i do give credit to the ones who pulled 'the great train robbery'.
On 03/28/2009 02:52 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 28 March 2009 18:02:48 g wrote:
as was discussed last year on this list, on a linux system, it may not be highly efficient. how many thieves are intelligent enough to use linux?
Actually it is next to useless in my view. Any laptop should have the drive encrypted and not come up without the passphrase. In this setting adeona or anything similar is not very useful.
Most large businesses require any laptop use disk encryption - start with that and see what else you can do to enhance security beyond that.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 18:02:48 +0000, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
if you have your laptop setup so that it will boot up and connect to internet with out user intervention, then by all means, install adeona. then if it gets stolen, pray that crook is dome enough to power up with an internet connect.
Recovery software doesn't help prevent your laptop from being stolen. Even if it gets used before being wiped having an IP address doesn't get your laptop back. You are going to need to work with police and subpoena records and then get a search warrant. It's going to be a lot of work (by someone) to get the machine back.
Another approach might be to have a way to disable hardware in the machine that would make it hard to use without going into a repair shop where the serial numbers might be checked. That won't work often, but when it does, it could be done a lot cheaper than going through law enforcement.
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Recovery software doesn't help prevent your laptop from being stolen.
all good points and i agree with you. problem being that by time all procedures are gone thru, laptop may well be long gone, and then burden of proof' kicks in.
'adeona' sign in is not 'hijack' [or how ever they spell it] tracking.
Another approach might be to have a way to disable hardware in the machine
ibm had a good idea, but how many laptops where left alone because of it?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 19:14:52 +0000, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Another approach might be to have a way to disable hardware in the machine
ibm had a good idea, but how many laptops where left alone because of it?
That won't help with preventing loss either, but it might make recovery cost effective. With law enforcement the cost of recovery is so high, it could easily cost more to recover a laptop than its worth. If you are publishing lists of serial numbers of stolen units and repair shops seize any that they run across, I think you can recover stolen ones for less money. You still won't get a lot back.
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