dag: would you please pick up the kernel-module-nvidia packages if you can ...

[Leif Schaffner]

I don't know if you are (legally) allowed to or not ...

I use a lot of your packages ... thanks for your repo :-)

[Michael A. Peters]

On 12/01/2004 10:08:14 PM, Leif Schaffner wrote:
> I don't know if you are (legally) allowed to or not ...
>
> I use a lot of your packages ... thanks for your repo :-)

In the meantime it is at rpm.livna.org - and their packaging is  
particularly nice because they make it easy for you to disable it (one  
command) when you find out how crappy it is, as things like grep start  
to segfault with it installed.

[Leif Schaffner]

> when you find out how crappy it is, as things like grep start  
> to segfault with it installed.

Thanks for your suggestion.

I will -never- purchase another motherboard with (proprietary) nvidia 
hardware again.  Just my personal opinion (& bias).

YMMV.

Best wishes

[Michael A. Peters]

On 12/01/2004 10:41:20 PM, Leif Schaffner wrote:
> I will -never- purchase another motherboard with (proprietary) nvidia  
> hardware again.  Just my personal opinion (& bias).
>
> YMMV.

I've been happy with the nforce2 board I have - but I am seriously  
considering getting an ATI Radeon 8500-9250 (I think that is the range)  
that have working OSS 3D drivers. Just for tuxracer.

Though I think to be fair - there are only working OSS drivers for  
those cards because of reverse engineering. Too bad 3dfx didn't make it : 
(

dag: would you please pick up the kernel-module-nvidia packages

[Walter Francis]

Using Nvidia chipset and a Nvidia card are pretty different beasts.

Nvidia graphics cards are very well supported and are *the* best card
to get for 3D in Linux today.  You don't want ATI for 3D, as ATI has
yet to release any decent drivers.

Sure, there are 3D drivers.  They are missing a LOT of GL extensions
which makes a huge difference in games such as UT, UT2004, etc.

If you have a fast enough CPU you can probably play a simple game
like Tuxracer in software mode.

[Robin Laing]

Michael A. Peters wrote:
> On 12/01/2004 10:41:20 PM, Leif Schaffner wrote:
> > I will -never- purchase another motherboard with (proprietary) nvidia  
> > hardware again.  Just my personal opinion (& bias).
> >
> > YMMV.
>
> I've been happy with the nforce2 board I have - but I am seriously  
> considering getting an ATI Radeon 8500-9250 (I think that is the range)  
> that have working OSS 3D drivers. Just for tuxracer.
>
> Though I think to be fair - there are only working OSS drivers for  
> those cards because of reverse engineering. Too bad 3dfx didn't make it : (

There are reports of ATI cards not liking nforce2 boards.

I had an ATI 9600 and dumped it for nVidia.  I haven't tried the 
latest kernel and driver yet.  I found nVidia was much more supportive 
the Linux than ATI.  But as you state, it is reversed engineered.

I never got tux racer to run with my ATI.  :(

[James Wilkinson]

Michael A. Peters wrote:
> I've been happy with the nforce2 board I have - but I am seriously  
> considering getting an ATI Radeon 8500-9250 (I think that is the range)  
> that have working OSS 3D drivers. Just for tuxracer.

Me too. Although I think the range of suitable cards goes back
further...

Robin Laing wrote:
> I had an ATI 9600 and dumped it for nVidia.

That's a very different chipset that only has closed source 3D drivers
(to the best of my knowledge), and they're considerably different to the
open source ones.

In other words, yes, your experience is valid but does not necessarily
apply to Radeons which have the open source drivers.

No doubt I shall find out...

James.