Hi everybody,
That's the exact name of the model that I own -not an advertisement...
The gadget does work, proofs: -SuSE(9) KDE default webcam application (don't remember its name) (Suse's my second home system, what Windows is/means for others, Suse is for me...That is, although almost not used, things -hardware- work there.) -SuSE(9) Gnomemeeting --> Yes, indeed. -Windows (when I bought it, already some time ago) -Camorama, in Fedora (my favourite main home system, still Core 1). -Even more: I'd bet it worked OK some months ago (but not sure) with Gnomemeeting and xawtv in FC1 (then I didn't have nearly any time to glance at this kind of things and I didn't care so much pass through it).
My doubts are (in FC1) about the system configuration (maybe /etc/modules.conf) or might be about some apps' config.
Has it anything to do with the last new kernels for FC1 ? I've always had precompiled kernels coming from them. At the moment:
[daniel@PRIMATES-PLM Documentation]$ date vie oct 1 00:37:48 CEST 2004 [daniel@PRIMATES-PLM Documentation]$ uname -r 2.4.22-1.2199.nptl
AFAIRead, gadget's video chip is Philips, isn't it??
Does it need the pwc module loaded for proper working, right?
How can I check if I have the pwcx installed? Is it necessary for webcam apps or maybe can pwc manage the device by itselt? It would explain why camorama works perfectly (supposing pwcx not really installed).
Is there (or was, in the past) a way to get the pwcx portion via yum or apt? If not, it is sure I don't have it installed.
I've had a look to the pwc developer web site, but IMHO -at least it seemed to me- most-simple general explanations are poor (just what a newbie like me can need!) about why pcwx is necessary and when. Inside its tarball says, if I understood right, that you must have a 2.4.25 kernel to patch it later (if 2.4 serie). If I wanted to go on with it (Still I don't know if pwcx is worth or important or not...) his would bind to me to abandon the Fedora's precompiled kernels, wouldn't it?
I've also had a look at /boot/config*(active kernel), with kernel sources installed, and drivers like v4l and other are installed (as modules); What I can see is that almost everything is configured as M there, in precompiled kernels. I suppose the meaning is to ensure that most things will work if needed but I'm not sure if all needed modules are automatically loaded when you run certain program, as a webcam application for example. Is there any way to bind to the kernel to load some modules (that you know you're going to need later) at start up? Actually, I am quite messed up with all this.
I know that by typing /sbin/lsmod the loaded modules are listed; I also know that /sbin/modprobe modulename loads it according to the /etc/modules.conf file, but not much more I can say about this. Editing the modules.conf without knowing what are exactly you doing is not a good solution, even with a .bak file, it looks like a loose of time if there is not interactive help. I need help if the problem is here or similar level.
I've also compared the config files for Gnomemeeting into Fedora and Suse (because capture works here), but I didn't find any relevant differences between them. Nothing. Maybe the Suse distro has the mentioned pwcx installed, I don't know.... Same for modules.conf between the 2 distros, mainly looking for something different more o less, but they has not much to do, since in Suse it comes with a lot of alias defined (large and complete list) although most of them are really commented by default, meanwhile oppositely in Fedora there are a few lines. Not clues for me...
BTW, anyone knows what is supposed to do to get vanity utility to work? I've never seen it app simply opened.
I would appreciate tips, ideas, suggestions, ..., even links pointing to any source of information at anywhere!
Regards,
Daniel Rodríguez
Am Fr, den 01.10.2004 schrieb M Daniel R M um 1:03:
Does it need the pwc module loaded for proper working, right?
Using google: yes.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&ie=UTF-8&q=pwcx+Logitech+QuickCam... - http://www.sslug.dk/~chlor/webcam/ - http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html - http://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/2003-August/msg00926.html
How can I check if I have the pwcx installed? Is it necessary for webcam apps or maybe can pwc manage the device by itselt? It would explain why camorama works perfectly (supposing pwcx not really installed).
The pwcx author recently closed his site because the kernel guys decided to kick out the pwc module because they don't want to support non open source software directly with the Linux kernel. Details on the pwc / pwcx author's position: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
Is there (or was, in the past) a way to get the pwcx portion via yum or apt? If not, it is sure I don't have it installed.
No, it is not and never was.
You need to get the last pwcx tarball and compile the module into your kernel. The pwc.ko module comes with the latest FC2 kernel. The steps are described in the README coming with the pwcx tarball.
Daniel Rodríguez
Alexander
El vie, 01-10-2004 a las 01:25, Alexander Dalloz escribió:
Using google: yes.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&ie=UTF-8&q=pwcx+Logitech+QuickCam...
I already knew almost all useful entries from there, truly, believe me.
Do you think it would have been easier or more difficult for me to go to google (awaked) or to start to writing a long email? But I can't explain to me how I could make that mistake or whatever of not to know the first one ... http://mia.ece.uic.edu/~papers/volans/quickcam.html
It's just by itself what I was looking for! (enough); but even, some of the its inside links are also very valuable for me: http://www.ap-accessgrid.org/linux/usb.html http://mia.ece.uic.edu/~papers/linux/msg00034.html
I can't explain what it could happens or what I was thinking about when searching (I'm not still the King of Google, but I think that I am closer and closer day by day...)
The pwcx author recently closed his site because the kernel guys decided to kick out the pwc module because they don't want to support non open source software directly with the Linux kernel. Details on the pwc / pwcx author's position: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
Already knew....
You need to get the last pwcx tarball and compile the module into your kernel.
I was afraid that I'd have to end up compiling a new kernel by myself later or earlier... Fortunately, old-newbie, yes, but I --don't--mind-- 'll be able to face it (If I were very-new-newbie and very-frikie I suppose I won't love Linux in the same way...)
The pwc.ko module comes with the latest FC2 kernel.
??? I'll take note...for when the FC3's ready; as said, FC1's my system (FC3 will be the next ... hope so).
The steps are described in the README coming with the pwcx tarball.
already knew
Alexander
Very thanks, Alexander;
Dabuek Rodríguez
Am Sa, den 02.10.2004 schrieb M Daniel R M um 16:42:
You need to get the last pwcx tarball and compile the module into your kernel.
I was afraid that I'd have to end up compiling a new kernel by myself later or earlier... Fortunately, old-newbie, yes, but I --don't--mind-- 'll be able to face it (If I were very-new-newbie and very-frikie I suppose I won't love Linux in the same way...)
Compiling the needed module(s) can be a bit tricky, but the driver tarball holds the necessary information. I once compiled the pwcx module my own on FC1. Still can locate it in my backup
/spare/backup/hdb3/lib/modules/2.4.22-1.2188.nptl/kernel/drivers/usb/pwcx-i386.o
(Formerly it was called pwcx-i386.o.)
The pwc.ko module comes with the latest FC2 kernel.
??? I'll take note...for when the FC3's ready; as said, FC1's my system (FC3 will be the next ... hope so).
The FC1 kernel has it too, named pwc.o.
Dabuek Rodríguez
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