Linux suitable motherboard/µprocessor?

[Manuel Aróstegui]

On Wednesday 29 August 2007 17:37:32 Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Can someone tell me if this board and processor would be suitable for
> Fedora 7?
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=
> 3156977&sku=MBM-K8MM3V-3400&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1442C
>
> I have a some parts I would like to make into something usable, including
> 500 megs of DDR PC3200 400mHz 256MB RAM.
>
> I don't have any exotic requirements, just a box for routine e-mail,
> MySql, etc.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob Goodwin

Ufff please, no HTML, no huge letter...

I don't see why those products wouldn't run fedora...

[Dave Stevens]

On Wednesday 29 August 2007 08:37, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Can someone tell me if this board and processor would be suitable for
> Fedora 7?
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=
> 3156977&sku=MBM-K8MM3V-3400&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1442C
>
> I have a some parts I would like to make into something usable, including
> 500 megs of DDR PC3200 400mHz 256MB RAM.
>
> I don't have any exotic requirements, just a box for routine e-mail,
> MySql, etc.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob Goodwin

see here:

"Linux Hardware Compatibility HOWTO
Steven Pritchard
Southern Illinois Linux Users Group / K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc.

3.2.4

Copyright © 2001-2007 Steven Pritchard

Copyright © 1997-1999 Patrick Reijnen

2007-05-22

This document attempts to list most of the hardware known to be either 
supported or unsupported under Linux."

more at:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/

Dave

ps I agree with Manuel, no reason why it wouldn't. I assume you've checked the 
manufacturer's web site for memory specs, is that right?

[Bob Goodwin]

Dave Stevens wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 August 2007 08:37, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> > Can someone tell me if this board and processor would be suitable for
> > Fedora 7?
> >
> > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=
> > 3156977&sku=MBM-K8MM3V-3400&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1442C
> >
> > I have a some parts I would like to make into something usable, including
> > 500 megs of DDR PC3200 400mHz 256MB RAM.
> >
> > I don't have any exotic requirements, just a box for routine e-mail,
> > MySql, etc.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Bob Goodwin
>
> see here:
>
> "Linux Hardware Compatibility HOWTO
> Steven Pritchard
> Southern Illinois Linux Users Group / K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc.
>
> 3.2.4
>
> Copyright © 2001-2007 Steven Pritchard
>
> Copyright © 1997-1999 Patrick Reijnen
>
> 2007-05-22
>
> This document attempts to list most of the hardware known to be either 
> supported or unsupported under Linux."
>
> more at:
> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/
>
> Dave
>
> ps I agree with Manuel, no reason why it wouldn't. I assume you've checked the 
> manufacturer's web site for memory specs, is that right?

Yes, it appears to me the RAM I have is usable.

There are no specifics on the site you list but I guess the main unknown 
would be the
"AMD Sempron 3400+ 2.0GHz"  processor that ships with the board.

I just thought someone might have an opinion to offer.

Thanks.

Bob Goodwin

[Ian Malone]

Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Dave Stevens wrote:
> > On Wednesday 29 August 2007 08:37, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> > > Can someone tell me if this board and processor would be suitable for
> > > Fedora 7?
> > >
> > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=
> > >
> > > 3156977&sku=MBM-K8MM3V-3400&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1442C
> > >
> > > I have a some parts I would like to make into something usable, 
> > > including
> > > 500 megs of DDR PC3200 400mHz 256MB RAM.
> > >
> > > I don't have any exotic requirements, just a box for routine e-mail,
> > > MySql, etc.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > ps I agree with Manuel, no reason why it wouldn't. I assume you've 
> > checked the manufacturer's web site for memory specs, is that right?
>
> Yes, it appears to me the RAM I have is usable.
>
> There are no specifics on the site you list but I guess the main unknown 
> would be the
> "AMD Sempron 3400+ 2.0GHz"  processor that ships with the board.
>
> I just thought someone might have an opinion to offer.

A mainstream processor from AMD or Intel is rarely going to cause
problems, the same goes for desktop RAM (unless faulty or wildly
out of spec).  What you want to look at is support for the controller
chips on the motherboard: IDE & SATA controller, onboard graphics
and sound if present, ethernet, usb etc.

In this case you want to check support for:
Sound VIA VT1617A (support onboard sound controllers often depend
on the board as well as the particular chip and can be somewhat
difficult).
Via K8M800 northbridge support for UniChrome video
Via VT8237R southbridge SATA support, ethernet support

Depending on your needs you may also want to try and discover
whether suspend and other power saving features are supported for
this board (though I suspect the only way to find out will be to
try it).

[Zoltan Boszormenyi]

Bob Goodwin írta:
> Dave Stevens wrote:
> > On Wednesday 29 August 2007 08:37, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> > > Can someone tell me if this board and processor would be suitable for
> > > Fedora 7?
> > >
> > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=
> > >
> > > 3156977&sku=MBM-K8MM3V-3400&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1442C
> > >
> > > I have a some parts I would like to make into something usable, 
> > > including
> > > 500 megs of DDR PC3200 400mHz 256MB RAM.
> > >
> > > I don't have any exotic requirements, just a box for routine e-mail,
> > > MySql, etc.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Bob Goodwin
> >
> > see here:
> >
> > "Linux Hardware Compatibility HOWTO
> > Steven Pritchard
> > Southern Illinois Linux Users Group / K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc.
> >
> > 3.2.4
> >
> > Copyright © 2001-2007 Steven Pritchard
> >
> > Copyright © 1997-1999 Patrick Reijnen
> >
> > 2007-05-22
> >
> > This document attempts to list most of the hardware known to be 
> > either supported or unsupported under Linux."
> >
> > more at:
> > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > ps I agree with Manuel, no reason why it wouldn't. I assume you've 
> > checked the manufacturer's web site for memory specs, is that right?
>
> Yes, it appears to me the RAM I have is usable.
>
> There are no specifics on the site you list but I guess the main 
> unknown would be the
> "AMD Sempron 3400+ 2.0GHz"  processor that ships with the board.

It won't cause any problems. Linux can use every CPU architectures that 
Windows can.
However the reverse is not true.
> I just thought someone might have an opinion to offer.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob Goodwin

[Robin Laing]

Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Can someone tell me if this board and processor would be suitable for 
> Fedora 7?
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3...
>
> I have a some parts I would like to make into something usable, 
> including 500 megs of DDR PC3200 400mHz 256MB RAM.
>
> I don't have any exotic requirements, just a box for routine e-mail, 
> MySql, etc.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob Goodwin

I would go to at least 1 or 2 gig or ram as the cost of ram is quite low 
at this time.  It is well worth it as it does make a difference to speed.

[Bob Goodwin]

Robin Laing wrote:
> Bob Goodwin wrote:
> > Can someone tell me if this board and processor would be suitable for 
> > Fedora 7?
> >
> > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3...
> >
> > I have a some parts I would like to make into something usable, 
> > including 500 megs of DDR PC3200 400mHz 256MB RAM.
> >
> > I don't have any exotic requirements, just a box for routine e-mail, 
> > MySql, etc.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Bob Goodwin
>
> I would go to at least 1 or 2 gig or ram as the cost of ram is quite 
> low at this time.  It is well worth it as it does make a difference to 
> speed.

Yes, I am aware that more is better but I would start with what I have.

However I just called Tiger Direct and today the price is $10 higher, 
the sale was only good for one or two days.  The difference is not 
significant but it's a matter of principle now.

A few weeks ago I needed a power supply, they had one on sale for $15 
but there was no way I could buy it for that price?  It cost me 30 plus 
shipping, a fair enough price but not what was advertised and the ad was 
effective when I ordered!

They seem to specialize in "come ons" and a lot of rebates!

/I should unsubscribe from there mail list I guess.

Bob Goodwin

/

[Claude Jones]

On Friday August 31 2007 12:33:31 pm Bob Goodwin wrote:
> They seem to specialize in "come ons" and a lot of rebates!
>
> /I should unsubscribe from there mail list I guess.
>
> Bob Goodwin

I really dislike Tiger Direct. The missives from the Pres are 
particularly obnoxious. The rebate process is a huge pain - I 
bought a monitor once with a huge rebate - the forms we had to 
fill out were tortuous and used non-intuitive language. It took 
over an hour to go throught it all, and I had to get the 
bookeeper involved - 9 weeks later I got a message saying my 
rebate application had been rejected because it didn't meet 
their 'qualifications' - never again will I buy there. There's 
lots of other good stores out there -- when asked, I always 
suggest newegg or mwave these days -

[Arch Willingham]

I buy everything from newegg.com. Great service, great prices, great selection, great place....

-----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Claude Jones
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:41 PM
To: For users of Fedora
Subject: Re: Linux suitable motherboard/µprocessor?

On Friday August 31 2007 12:33:31 pm Bob Goodwin wrote:
> They seem to specialize in "come ons" and a lot of rebates!
>
> /I should unsubscribe from there mail list I guess.
>
> Bob Goodwin

I really dislike Tiger Direct. The missives from the Pres are 
particularly obnoxious. The rebate process is a huge pain - I 
bought a monitor once with a huge rebate - the forms we had to 
fill out were tortuous and used non-intuitive language. It took 
over an hour to go throught it all, and I had to get the 
bookeeper involved - 9 weeks later I got a message saying my 
rebate application had been rejected because it didn't meet 
their 'qualifications' - never again will I buy there. There's 
lots of other good stores out there -- when asked, I always 
suggest newegg or mwave these days -

[Claude Jones]

On Friday August 31 2007 1:40:21 pm Arch Willingham wrote:
> I buy everything from newegg.com. Great service, great prices,
> great selection, great place....

agreed, but, mwave (mwave.com) is similar and has one really 
killer feature if you build a lot of custom computers from mobo 
up - go to their mobo pages, pick one, and you have drop downs 
that allow you to choose a processor that goes with your 
selection, ram that is right for your selection, and the option 
to have them test the bundle for $9 - the time saved on 
researching which processors will work, are available, etc, and 
the same with ram, make their system the easiest to use of all 
the internet stores - I build lots of computers and this is the 
only place I usually go now when that's what I need to do

[Arch Willingham]

That is slick as a button....I just went to the site. Thanks for the tip!

Arch

-----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Claude Jones
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 2:52 PM
To: For users of Fedora
Subject: Re: Linux suitable motherboard/µprocessor?

On Friday August 31 2007 1:40:21 pm Arch Willingham wrote:
> I buy everything from newegg.com. Great service, great prices,
> great selection, great place....

agreed, but, mwave (mwave.com) is similar and has one really 
killer feature if you build a lot of custom computers from mobo 
up - go to their mobo pages, pick one, and you have drop downs 
that allow you to choose a processor that goes with your 
selection, ram that is right for your selection, and the option 
to have them test the bundle for $9 - the time saved on 
researching which processors will work, are available, etc, and 
the same with ram, make their system the easiest to use of all 
the internet stores - I build lots of computers and this is the 
only place I usually go now when that's what I need to do

[Karl Larsen]

Arch Willingham wrote:
> That is slick as a button....I just went to the site. Thanks for the tip!
>
> Arch
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Claude Jones
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 2:52 PM
> To: For users of Fedora
> Subject: Re: Linux suitable motherboard/µprocessor?
>
> On Friday August 31 2007 1:40:21 pm Arch Willingham wrote:
> > I buy everything from newegg.com. Great service, great prices,
> > great selection, great place....
>
> agreed, but, mwave (mwave.com) is similar and has one really 
> killer feature if you build a lot of custom computers from mobo 
> up - go to their mobo pages, pick one, and you have drop downs 
> that allow you to choose a processor that goes with your 
> selection, ram that is right for your selection, and the option 
> to have them test the bundle for $9 - the time saved on 
> researching which processors will work, are available, etc, and 
> the same with ram, make their system the easiest to use of all 
> the internet stores - I build lots of computers and this is the 
> only place I usually go now when that's what I need to do

That is a real low price for that much work. They have to put in a 
cpu and RAM and a HD. It would take like 5 minutes to do all that. 
Longer if they had to unpack stuff. But sure be nice. Then I would have 
not had to send back my RAM. DDR2 IS not the same as DDR.

[Claude Jones]

On Friday August 31 2007 4:27:16 pm Karl Larsen wrote:
> That is a real low price for that much work. They have to put
> in a cpu and RAM and a HD. It would take like 5 minutes to do
> all that. Longer if they had to unpack stuff. But sure be
> nice. Then I would have not had to send back my RAM. DDR2 IS
> not the same as DDR.

test bench mode - have a space where you have a drive, a P.S., a 
keyboard, a mouse, a few other things, a mobo, just scattered in 
an orderly exposed fashion, a complete, but totally exposed out 
of the case computer - unpack new stuff, unplug what you need, 
plug in the to-be-tested stuff, fire it up, you're done...I have 
a little approximation of the above in my shop at my job

[rowan]

-----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Arch Willingham
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:40 PM
To: For users of Fedora
Subject: RE: Linux suitable motherboard/µprocessor?

I buy everything from newegg.com. Great service, great prices, great
selection, great place....

-----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Claude Jones
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:41 PM
To: For users of Fedora
Subject: Re: Linux suitable motherboard/µprocessor?

On Friday August 31 2007 12:33:31 pm Bob Goodwin wrote:
> They seem to specialize in "come ons" and a lot of rebates!
>
> /I should unsubscribe from there mail list I guess.
>
> Bob Goodwin

I really dislike Tiger Direct. The missives from the Pres are
particularly obnoxious. The rebate process is a huge pain - I
bought a monitor once with a huge rebate - the forms we had to
fill out were tortuous and used non-intuitive language. It took
over an hour to go throught it all, and I had to get the
bookeeper involved - 9 weeks later I got a message saying my
rebate application had been rejected because it didn't meet
their 'qualifications' - never again will I buy there. There's
lots of other good stores out there -- when asked, I always
suggest newegg or mwave these days -
I too was burned by the TigerDirect rebate bait tactics.  I jumped at the
chance to get a Viewsonic 20.5 inch flat panel display.  When I submitted my
rebate request I found out that I had to purchase a new desktop or laptop in
order to qualify for the rebate.  On top of that the Viewsonic's DVI didn't
work. When I tried to get a replacement TigerDirect begged out of it stating
I had to deal with the manufacturer.  Viewsonic acknowledged my problem and
issued me an RMA but when the replacement never arrived I called and found
they didn't have stock any more. I had to send my new monitor, paying for
shipping of course, to have the repair it.  They estimated 10 working days
after they received it.  Unfortunately I'd already given away my previous
monitor and couldn't be without a display for 3 weeks.  Every time I
revisited the issue Viewsonic claimed no inventory so I ended up using the
standard VGA interface rather than the faster DVI.  I had another bad
experience with TigerDirect.
I stay clear of TigerDirect.

--
Claude Jones
Brunswick, MD, USA

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[Karl Larsen]

Claude Jones wrote:
> On Friday August 31 2007 12:33:31 pm Bob Goodwin wrote:
> > They seem to specialize in "come ons" and a lot of rebates!
> >
> > /I should unsubscribe from there mail list I guess.
> >
> > Bob Goodwin
>
> I really dislike Tiger Direct. The missives from the Pres are 
> particularly obnoxious. The rebate process is a huge pain - I 
> bought a monitor once with a huge rebate - the forms we had to 
> fill out were tortuous and used non-intuitive language. It took 
> over an hour to go throught it all, and I had to get the 
> bookeeper involved - 9 weeks later I got a message saying my 
> rebate application had been rejected because it didn't meet 
> their 'qualifications' - never again will I buy there. There's 
> lots of other good stores out there -- when asked, I always 
> suggest newegg or mwave these days -

So far I can't fault Tiger Direct for any faults to my 2nd computer. 
And as they told me a week ago they are a retail store. They have a 15 
day send it back for full refund and then it's on the manufacturer to 
take care of problems.

[Per Anton Rønning]

Robin Laing wrote:
> Bob Goodwin wrote:
> > Can someone tell me if this board and processor would be suitable for 
> > Fedora 7?
> >
> > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3...
> >
> > I have a some parts I would like to make into something usable, 
> > including 500 megs of DDR PC3200 400mHz 256MB RAM.
> >
> > I don't have any exotic requirements, just a box for routine e-mail, 
> > MySql, etc.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Bob Goodwin
>
> I would go to at least 1 or 2 gig or ram as the cost of ram is quite 
> low at this time.  It is well worth it as it does make a difference to 
> speed.

I agree, I have 1G, and that was a great improvement over the previous 
machine, with the same amount of RAM as you have.

Brgds
PAR

[Colin Paul Adams]

> I would go to at least 1 or 2 gig or ram as the cost of ram is quite
> low at this time.  It is well worth it as it does make a difference
> to speed.

I agree, I have 1G, and that was a great improvement over the previous
machine, with the same amount of RAM as you have.

I disagree - it is far too small an amount - I went for 2GB when I
bought this machine in 2003. Nowawdays you should be considering at
least 8GB.