Smolt: Fedora Hardware Profiler

[Mike McGrath]

Smolt is a hardware profiler for Fedora so we can get a better idea of
what type of hardware is out there in the Fedora universe.  It's still
in beta but those of you running FC6 or newer (rawhide) can
participate.

Just type "yum install smolt"  followed by "smoltSendProfile".  All
sends are anonymous and the only tie to hardware is via a UUID that
gets sent.  We can't trace the UUID back to you without you giving us
the UUID, which may be helpful for those experiencing hardware or
driver issues.

Check out the stats at http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/stats

For more information on smolt look at:

https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/wiki
and
https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/wiki/Scope

-Mike

[Nigel Henry]

On Wednesday 31 January 2007 17:08, Mike McGrath wrote:
> Smolt is a hardware profiler for Fedora so we can get a better idea of
> what type of hardware is out there in the Fedora universe.  It's still
> in beta but those of you running FC6 or newer (rawhide) can
> participate.
>
> Just type "yum install smolt"  followed by "smoltSendProfile".  All
> sends are anonymous and the only tie to hardware is via a UUID that
> gets sent.  We can't trace the UUID back to you without you giving us
> the UUID, which may be helpful for those experiencing hardware or
> driver issues.
>
> Check out the stats at http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/stats
>
> For more information on smolt look at:
>
> https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/wiki
> and
> https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/wiki/Scope
>             -Mike

Hi Mike. Is smolt likely to become available for FC5?

Nigel.

[Mike McGrath]

On 1/31/07, Nigel Henry  wrote:
> Hi Mike. Is smolt likely to become available for FC5?
>
> Nigel.

Possibly, I'd like to go back to FC3 if I could but there are
compatibility issues with urlgrabber and hal in python.  I'll see what
I can come up with.

-Mike

[James Wilkinson]

Mike McGrath wrote:
> Smolt is a hardware profiler for Fedora so we can get a better idea of
> what type of hardware is out there in the Fedora universe.  It's still
> in beta but those of you running FC6 or newer (rawhide) can
> participate.
>
> Just type "yum install smolt"  followed by "smoltSendProfile".  All
> sends are anonymous and the only tie to hardware is via a UUID that
> gets sent.  We can't trace the UUID back to you without you giving us
> the UUID, which may be helpful for those experiencing hardware or
> driver issues.

I've just checked out smoltPrint, which claims
     We would send the following information to the Fedora Smolt server:

One very noticable problem in the information it reports is that it
reports the current CPU speed, not the maximum. It calls my system a
1 GHz system (which it is, when it's not loaded, due to Cool'n'Quiet and
cpuspeed), not a 2 GHz system.

Would it not make more sense to query
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq , if it exists?

Would you like me to Bugzilla this, or use
https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/newticket?

James.

[David Jansen]

On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 10:08:06AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> Smolt is a hardware profiler for Fedora so we can get a better idea of
> what type of hardware is out there in the Fedora universe.  It's still
> in beta but those of you running FC6 or newer (rawhide) can
> participate.
>
> Just type "yum install smolt"  followed by "smoltSendProfile".  All
> sends are anonymous and the only tie to hardware is via a UUID that
> gets sent.  We can't trace the UUID back to you without you giving us
> the UUID, which may be helpful for those experiencing hardware or
> driver issues.

Sounds interesting, so I tried. yum install smolt works, but there is no
smoltSendProfile . Looking through rpm -ql smolt output, the only thing
executable was /usr/share/smolt/client/sendProfile.py , which seems to
do the job . Is there an error in the rpm package or am I missing
something here?

David Jansen

[Mike McGrath]

On 1/31/07, James Wilkinson  wrote:
> Mike McGrath wrote:
> > Smolt is a hardware profiler for Fedora so we can get a better idea of
> > what type of hardware is out there in the Fedora universe.  It's still
> > in beta but those of you running FC6 or newer (rawhide) can
> > participate.
> >
> > Just type "yum install smolt"  followed by "smoltSendProfile".  All
> > sends are anonymous and the only tie to hardware is via a UUID that
> > gets sent.  We can't trace the UUID back to you without you giving us
> > the UUID, which may be helpful for those experiencing hardware or
> > driver issues.
>
> I've just checked out smoltPrint, which claims
>      We would send the following information to the Fedora Smolt server:
>
> One very noticable problem in the information it reports is that it
> reports the current CPU speed, not the maximum. It calls my system a
> 1 GHz system (which it is, when it's not loaded, due to Cool'n'Quiet and
> cpuspeed), not a 2 GHz system.
>
> Would it not make more sense to query
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq , if it exists?
>
> Would you like me to Bugzilla this, or use
> https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/newticket?
>
> James

Hmm, good question.  Most of the hardware reporting issues here are
actually based off of rhn-client-tools.  I'd submit it to
bugzilla.redhat.com.  You'll be hearing from me soon hopefully.

-Mike

[Mike McGrath]

On 1/31/07, David Jansen  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 10:08:06AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
>
> Sounds interesting, so I tried. yum install smolt works, but there is no
> smoltSendProfile . Looking through rpm -ql smolt output, the only thing
> executable was /usr/share/smolt/client/sendProfile.py , which seems to
> do the job . Is there an error in the rpm package or am I missing
> something here?
>
> David Jansen

I'm going to guess out of date mirror.  The most current version was
just built last night.  The most recent version is "smolt-0.6.1-3.fc6"

-Mike

[Mike McGrath]

On 1/31/07, James Wilkinson  wrote:
> One very noticable problem in the information it reports is that it
> reports the current CPU speed, not the maximum. It calls my system a
> 1 GHz system (which it is, when it's not loaded, due to Cool'n'Quiet and
> cpuspeed), not a 2 GHz system.
>
> Would it not make more sense to query
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq , if it exists?
>
> Would you like me to Bugzilla this, or use
> https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/newticket?

I lied earlier, use
https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/newticket.  But be
warned, thats also very new, you might be the first person to sumbit a
trac bug for us :-D

-Mike

[Patrick Lists]

On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 10:08 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> Smolt is a hardware profiler for Fedora so we can get a better idea of
> what type of hardware is out there in the Fedora universe.  It's still
> in beta but those of you running FC6 or newer (rawhide) can
> participate.
>
> Just type "yum install smolt"  followed by "smoltSendProfile".  All
> sends are anonymous and the only tie to hardware is via a UUID that
> gets sent.  We can't trace the UUID back to you without you giving us
> the UUID, which may be helpful for those experiencing hardware or
> driver issues.
>
> Check out the stats at http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/stats
>
> For more information on smolt look at:
>
> https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/wiki
> and
> https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/wiki/Scope

FYI: I noticed on my laptop with cpuspeed running that smoltPrint
reports the current cpu speed and not the maximum speed supported by the
cpu. Will that not mess with the statistics?

Regards,
Patrick

[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 11:01 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On 1/31/07, Nigel Henry  wrote:
> > Hi Mike. Is smolt likely to become available for FC5?
> >
> > Nigel.
>
> Possibly, I'd like to go back to FC3 if I could but there are
> compatibility issues with urlgrabber and hal in python.  I'll see what
> I can come up with.
>        -Mike

This is obvious but the problem with the statistics you get with the
current program is there could be N times as many FCx (x<6) users out
there and you would never find that out. 
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[John Wendel]

Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 10:08 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > Smolt is a hardware profiler for Fedora so we can get a better idea of
> > what type of hardware is out there in the Fedora universe.  It's still
> > in beta but those of you running FC6 or newer (rawhide) can
> > participate.
> >
> > Just type "yum install smolt"  followed by "smoltSendProfile".  All
> > sends are anonymous and the only tie to hardware is via a UUID that
> > gets sent.  We can't trace the UUID back to you without you giving us
> > the UUID, which may be helpful for those experiencing hardware or
> > driver issues.
> >
> > Check out the stats at http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/stats

I installed/ran smolt but I don't run HAL. It almost sorta kinda worked :(

Regards,

John Wendel

[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 10:08 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> Smolt is a hardware profiler for Fedora so we can get a better idea of
> what type of hardware is out there in the Fedora universe.  It's still
> in beta but those of you running FC6 or newer (rawhide) can
> participate.
>
> Just type "yum install smolt"  followed by "smoltSendProfile".  All
> sends are anonymous and the only tie to hardware is via a UUID that
> gets sent.  We can't trace the UUID back to you without you giving us
> the UUID, which may be helpful for those experiencing hardware or
> driver issues.
>
> Check out the stats at http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/stats
>
> For more information on smolt look at:
> https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/wiki
> and
> https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/wiki/Scope
>             -Mike

If it is of interest your SendProfile script did not dedect my sound
card which is a Crystal Semiconductor CS4236 sound card. That was not
surprising since lspci  does not detect it either. 
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[David Jansen]

Thanks, that was indeed the case, the update came in last night

David
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 11:47:39AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On 1/31/07, David Jansen  wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 10:08:06AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >
> > Sounds interesting, so I tried. yum install smolt works, but there is no
> > smoltSendProfile . Looking through rpm -ql smolt output, the only thing
> > executable was /usr/share/smolt/client/sendProfile.py , which seems to
> > do the job . Is there an error in the rpm package or am I missing
> > something here?
> >
> > David Jansen
>
> I'm going to guess out of date mirror.  The most current version was
> just built last night.  The most recent version is "smolt-0.6.1-3.fc6"
>     -Mike

[Andrew Parker]

On 1/31/07, Mike McGrath  wrote:
> Just type "yum install smolt"  followed by "smoltSendProfile".

Just tried this on a few boxes, and get the following repeatedly on one of them:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/smoltSendProfile", line 30, in ?
    o=grabber.urlopen('http://publictest4.fedora.redhat.com/addDevice',
data=sendDeviceStr, http_headers=(('Content-length', '%i' %
len(sendDeviceStr)),
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line
884, in urlopen
    return self._retry(opts, retryfunc, url)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line
845, in _retry
    r = apply(func, (opts,) + args, {})
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line
883, in retryfunc
    return URLGrabberFileObject(url, filename=None, opts=opts)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line
1001, in __init__
    self._do_open()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line
1068, in _do_open
    fo, hdr = self._make_request(req, opener)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py", line
1178, in _make_request
    raise new_e
urlgrabber.grabber.URLGrabError: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 500: Date: Fri,
02 Feb 2007 00:07:27 GMT
Server: CherryPy/2.2.1
Content-Length: 2058
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Connection: close

[Axel Thimm]

On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 10:08:06AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> Smolt is a hardware profiler for Fedora so we can get a better idea of
> what type of hardware is out there in the Fedora universe.

would it make sense to add some non-hardware metrics, too, like for
example the uid/gid range used in case we'd like to rethink the
100-499 range?

[Mike McGrath]

On 2/2/07, Axel Thimm  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 10:08:06AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > Smolt is a hardware profiler for Fedora so we can get a better idea of
> > what type of hardware is out there in the Fedora universe.
>
> would it make sense to add some non-hardware metrics, too, like for
> example the uid/gid range used in case we'd like to rethink the
> 100-499 range?

Possibly, I'll take a look.

-Mike