I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
thanks
On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
thanks
how about this?
https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/BG7.2/...
might be overkill but you can't say you weren't told...
d
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On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
thanks
how about this?
https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/BG7.2/...
might be overkill but you can't say you weren't told...
well definitely important, but I can't even get it running to reach this point.
One might think that the dnf install was all that it SHOULD take to at least start the program...
On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
thanks
how about this?
https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/BG7.2/...
might be overkill but you can't say you weren't told...
well definitely important, but I can't even get it running to reach this point.
One might think that the dnf install was all that it SHOULD take to at least start the program...
Launch it from the commend line. Copy back any messages to us that appear.
On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
Yes. You need to install all of LibreOffice so you can achieve interaction between LO Calc and LO Base.
LO Calc has the ability to import and export comma separated files (.CSV) and dBase files (.DBF).
Your wife's Access system can export one of the importable file formats to work in LO Base, and then import from Access through LO Calc in a format that LO Calc is able to import and then provide to LO Base to use.
LO Base does not appear to have the ability to directly import and export the native Access file format, but it can send and receive appropriately formatted table files.
Ken
On 5/2/22 08:03, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
Yes. You need to install all of LibreOffice so you can achieve interaction between LO Calc and LO Base.
I have, I think, all of LibreOffice installed. I use Write, Calc, and Impress on a regular basis. Interesting that Base is not installed when you do your Fedora Install and select to install the LIbreOffice Office suite.
LO Calc has the ability to import and export comma separated files (.CSV) and dBase files (.DBF).
I have done .CSV.
Your wife's Access system can export one of the importable file formats to work in LO Base, and then import from Access through LO Calc in a format that LO Calc is able to import and then provide to LO Base to use.
LO Base does not appear to have the ability to directly import and export the native Access file format, but it can send and receive appropriately formatted table files.
Humph. This may take rethinking, as I will be expected to 'help' at times, and I can't keep importing and exporting.
Ken
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On 5/2/22 05:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/2/22 08:03, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
Yes. You need to install all of LibreOffice so you can achieve interaction between LO Calc and LO Base.
I have, I think, all of LibreOffice installed. I use Write, Calc, and Impress on a regular basis. Interesting that Base is not installed when you do your Fedora Install and select to install the LIbreOffice Office suite.
I am under the impression that the standard LibreOffice installation does install all of the modules. When I go to the menu application in this Linux distribution, it lists office as one line item. Sliding the mouse over that item expands it to a list of many items, the top five of which are LilbreOffice, then LibreOffice Write, Calc, Impress and Draw, in that order. LIbreOffice Base is not listed. However, if I choose to launch the first item, LibreOffice, without a specific application mentioned, LO opens to show an area of recent documents icons on the right, and a list of six applications, including Math Formulas and Base database, on the left. Clicking on Base opens a wizard that allows me to either create a new database, open an existing database in this machine, or connect to another database on another machine. After choosing, for example, to create a new database, another screen appears offering whether or not to register the database with LO, and whether to save the database for editing to create tables using the table wizard. Clicking Finish opens the Base application for work on the open file.
No command lines are involved in this process.
I suggest you check your machine's application menu for a LibreOffice item that does not mention a specific application, then open that to see if the Base application is listed. If it is, the proceed as above from there. If it is not, I suggest you update all of LO to the latest version, either from Fedora, or the LibreOffice web site.
LO Calc has the ability to import and export comma separated files (.CSV) and dBase files (.DBF).
I have done .CSV.
Your wife's Access system can export one of the importable file formats to work in LO Base, and then import from Access through LO Calc in a format that LO Calc is able to import and then provide to LO Base to use.
LO Base does not appear to have the ability to directly import and export the native Access file format, but it can send and receive appropriately formatted table files.
Humph. This may take rethinking, as I will be expected to 'help' at times, and I can't keep importing and exporting.
Perhaps the rethinking will involve a virtual machine on your hardware within which is running Windows and Access, and appropriate network access between your and your wife's machine.
Ken
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On 5/2/22 11:34, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
On 5/2/22 05:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/2/22 08:03, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
Yes. You need to install all of LibreOffice so you can achieve interaction between LO Calc and LO Base.
I have, I think, all of LibreOffice installed. I use Write, Calc, and Impress on a regular basis. Interesting that Base is not installed when you do your Fedora Install and select to install the LIbreOffice Office suite.
I am under the impression that the standard LibreOffice installation does install all of the modules. When I go to the menu application in this Linux distribution, it lists office as one line item. Sliding the mouse over that item expands it to a list of many items, the top five of which are LilbreOffice, then LibreOffice Write, Calc, Impress and Draw, in that order. LIbreOffice Base is not listed. However, if I choose to launch the first item, LibreOffice, without a specific application mentioned, LO opens to show an area of recent documents icons on the right, and a list of six applications, including Math Formulas and Base database, on the left. Clicking on Base opens a wizard that allows me to either create a new database, open an existing database in this machine, or connect to another database on another machine. After choosing, for example, to create a new database, another screen appears offering whether or not to register the database with LO, and whether to save the database for editing to create tables using the table wizard. Clicking Finish opens the Base application for work on the open file.
No command lines are involved in this process.
I suggest you check your machine's application menu for a LibreOffice item that does not mention a specific application, then open that to see if the Base application is listed. If it is, the proceed as above from there. If it is not, I suggest you update all of LO to the latest version, either from Fedora, or the LibreOffice web site.
I have been running the Xfce desktop for lots of years of using Fedora. Maybe at least back to Fedora 20.
I have always installed LibreOffice during the base installation. The database component has NEVER been included to the best of my recollection. There were a couple times I wanted to work with an Access database, and since Base was not installed, I just switched to a Win system.
So I have never used Base for all these years. Only now trying.
I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with LibreOffice installed. When I go to a running instance of Calc, and <Alt-F> -> New, Base Database is NOT an option. Like it is just not linked in....
Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?
:(
LO Calc has the ability to import and export comma separated files (.CSV) and dBase files (.DBF).
I have done .CSV.
Your wife's Access system can export one of the importable file formats to work in LO Base, and then import from Access through LO Calc in a format that LO Calc is able to import and then provide to LO Base to use.
LO Base does not appear to have the ability to directly import and export the native Access file format, but it can send and receive appropriately formatted table files.
Humph. This may take rethinking, as I will be expected to 'help' at times, and I can't keep importing and exporting.
Perhaps the rethinking will involve a virtual machine on your hardware within which is running Windows and Access, and appropriate network access between your and your wife's machine.
Might as well just use a Win system.
But what is with Base???
On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with LibreOffice installed. When I go to a running instance of Calc, and <Alt-F> -> New, Base Database is NOT an option. Like it is just not linked in....
Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?
I use LibreOffice and KDE - if I launch LO from the command line, Base is greyed-out. dnf shows it as an available package, so it wasn't installed with the rest of LO.
On 5/2/22 12:29, Go Canes wrote:
On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with LibreOffice installed. When I go to a running instance of Calc, and <Alt-F> -> New, Base Database is NOT an option. Like it is just not linked in....
Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?
I use LibreOffice and KDE - if I launch LO from the command line, Base is greyed-out. dnf shows it as an available package, so it wasn't installed with the rest of LO.
Almost sounds like Base needs something that is not in Xfce...
Who else here is using Xfce and might check to see how it works (or not) for them?
Or maybe I have first shut down all open instances and then reboot and restart LO?
I HATE rebooting.
Think there is a misunderstanding of how libreoffice base works. It isn't a full database, but has options to link to various databases. Only tired it a few times and its been a while. I was using mariadb that was already running on my machine.
On my Fedora 34 machine, it has the base under the office link in XFCE menu. It comes up with option to use HSQLDB Embedded. Don't have mariadb running on this notebook. libreoffice --base does the same thing from command line.
Wish I had used it recently, but have had it work. Forget all the details.
Have 7.2 and 7.3 also installed, and they give same results libreoffice7.2 --base libreoffice7.3 --base
On 2 May 2022 at 12:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Date sent: Mon, 2 May 2022 12:50:56 -0400 Subject: Re: LibreOffice Base? To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org, Go Canes letsgonhlcanes0@gmail.com From: Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
On 5/2/22 12:29, Go Canes wrote:
On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with LibreOffice installed. When I go to a running instance of Calc, and <Alt-F> -> New, Base Database is NOT an option. Like it is just not linked in....
Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?
I use LibreOffice and KDE - if I launch LO from the command line, Base is greyed-out. dnf shows it as an available package, so it wasn't installed with the rest of LO.
Almost sounds like Base needs something that is not in Xfce...
Who else here is using Xfce and might check to see how it works (or not) for them?
Or maybe I have first shut down all open instances and then reboot and restart LO?
I HATE rebooting.
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On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 12:50 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/2/22 12:29, Go Canes wrote:
On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with LibreOffice installed. When I go to a running instance of Calc, and <Alt-F> -> New, Base Database is NOT an option. Like it is just not linked in....
Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?
I use LibreOffice and KDE - if I launch LO from the command line, Base is greyed-out. dnf shows it as an available package, so it wasn't installed with the rest of LO.
Almost sounds like Base needs something that is not in Xfce...
Who else here is using Xfce and might check to see how it works (or not) for them?
Or maybe I have first shut down all open instances and then reboot and restart LO?
I HATE rebooting.
I have replied with a screen dump but it is being moderated. I repeat the words here and further info
"F35 XFCE spin fully updated from a new install (when F35 was released)
Running the command "libreoffice" from a terminal window and selecting Base Database gives me the attached image."
LO opens with thumb nails of previous documents. In the left hand column the option "Base Database is active.
Selection this opens the LO Database Wizard, ...
John
On 5/2/22 10:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Almost sounds like Base needs something that is not in Xfce...
Who else here is using Xfce and might check to see how it works (or not) for them?
I do. I opened up Base from the Main Menu and the Wizard came right up.
Or maybe I have first shut down all open instances and then reboot and restart LO?
I HATE rebooting.
So do I.
I have XFCE and Libre office installed and indeed, Libreoffice Base is working I just started it from the start menu and it opened up normally. And I do not recall ever using it, I just install libreoffice whenever I upgrade.
On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 11:51 AM Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 5/2/22 12:29, Go Canes wrote:
On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com
wrote:
I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with LibreOffice installed. When I go to a running instance of Calc, and <Alt-F> -> New, Base Database is NOT an option. Like it is just not linked in....
Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?
I use LibreOffice and KDE - if I launch LO from the command line, Base is greyed-out. dnf shows it as an available package, so it wasn't installed with the rest of LO.
Almost sounds like Base needs something that is not in Xfce...
Who else here is using Xfce and might check to see how it works (or not) for them?
Or maybe I have first shut down all open instances and then reboot and restart LO?
I HATE rebooting.
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On 5/15/22 09:28, Javier Perez wrote:
I have XFCE and Libre office installed and indeed, Libreoffice Base is working I just started it from the start menu and it opened up normally. And I do not recall ever using it, I just install libreoffice whenever I upgrade.
When you install libreoffice, you get all of it automatically. Go to your Applications menu and open up the Office sub-menu and you'll see six programs who's names start with LibreOffice.
On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:55:13 -0600 Joe Zeff joe@zeff.us wrote:
I have XFCE and Libre office installed and indeed, Libreoffice Base is working I just started it from the start menu and it opened up normally. And I do not recall ever using it, I just install libreoffice whenever I upgrade.
When you install libreoffice, you get all of it automatically. Go to your Applications menu and open up the Office sub-menu and you'll see six programs who's names start with LibreOffice. _______________________________________________
I installed my version of Fedora 36 as a fresh install from the live beta MATE iso. The resultant libreoffice programs were as listed below with none of the optional packages installed:
[fred@acer-f36 ~]$ dnf group info libreoffice Last metadata expiration check: 0:01:14 ago on Sun 15 May 2022 09:54:54 AM AKDT. Group: LibreOffice Description: LibreOffice Productivity Suite Mandatory Packages: libreoffice-calc libreoffice-emailmerge libreoffice-graphicfilter libreoffice-impress libreoffice-writer Optional Packages: libreoffice-base libreoffice-draw libreoffice-math libreoffice-pyuno
I had to manually install the optional packages:
[fred@acer-f36 ~]$ sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-draw libreoffice-math
So, it seems that at some point libreoffice-base must be manually installed to be part of an individual computers libreoffice package.
Fred
On Sun, 2022-05-15 at 10:30 -0800, Fred wrote:
I had to manually install the optional packages
Likewise. The ones people commonly want, and are required for them to run are a basic installation.
It will probably change depending on which spin you install. One might use the basic defaults, another might include more things for you.
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.
Tried manual install on F35 system
sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math
and got this strange result
Error: Problem: conflicting requests - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b ut none of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but none of the providers can be installed - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none of the providers can be installed - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out by modular filtering
What are these missing requirements?
On Wed, 18 May 2022 00:16:12 -0400 Robert McBroom via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.
Tried manual install on F35 system
sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math
and got this strange result
Error: Problem: conflicting requests - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b ut none of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but none of the providers can be installed - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none of the providers can be installed - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out by modular filtering
What are these missing requirements?
They appear to be java requirements. From reading the fedora-devel list, java is in trouble on fedora. Its development model doesn't fit well with the way that fedora packages applications (it has lots of binary blobs of questionable heritage), and so it runs afoul of the 'all packages must be built from source' requirement. For what it is worth, I have the libreoffice-base packages installed without using modules running rawhide, and there don't appear to be any dependency issues. It seems that there is a dependency problem in f35; either generally or for your particular configuration.
I wonder if you have a dependency problem between modules and packages. On my system, I have modules turned off for that very reason. Is it possible you have an obsolete module installed, and it is blocking a package update?
Caveat: I don't understand the rpm package naming convention with parentheses, like mvn(com.ongres.scram:client). They don't work on the command line without escaping the parens, and I'm not sure what information they are conveying. The explanation of this was not available when I tried a search for it; it was all using the simple naming conventions I am familiar with. And the use of modules is only theoretical for me. So, I might not be the best person to answer your question. Can hope there is someone else who groks this problem and responds.
On 5/18/22 10:31, stan via users wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2022 00:16:12 -0400 Robert McBroom via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.
Tried manual install on F35 system
sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math
and got this strange result
Error: Problem: conflicting requests - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b ut none of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but none of the providers can be installed - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none of the providers can be installed - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out by modular filtering
What are these missing requirements?
They appear to be java requirements. From reading the fedora-devel list, java is in trouble on fedora. Its development model doesn't fit well with the way that fedora packages applications (it has lots of binary blobs of questionable heritage), and so it runs afoul of the 'all packages must be built from source' requirement. For what it is worth, I have the libreoffice-base packages installed without using modules running rawhide, and there don't appear to be any dependency issues. It seems that there is a dependency problem in f35; either generally or for your particular configuration.
I wonder if you have a dependency problem between modules and packages. On my system, I have modules turned off for that very reason. Is it possible you have an obsolete module installed, and it is blocking a package update?
Caveat: I don't understand the rpm package naming convention with parentheses, like mvn(com.ongres.scram:client). They don't work on the command line without escaping the parens, and I'm not sure what information they are conveying. The explanation of this was not available when I tried a search for it; it was all using the simple naming conventions I am familiar with. And the use of modules is only theoretical for me. So, I might not be the best person to answer your question. Can hope there is someone else who groks this problem and responds.
Don't have any modules installed that I know about. Some of the scientific codes I use have used Java for data display purposes so it is installed. The change in package naming totally confuses me. Does dnf understand these names or are we into the proliferation of package managers?
From the fore-mentioned thread F36 seems to install but there could have been configuration differences.
On 5/18/22 07:31, stan via users wrote:
Caveat: I don't understand the rpm package naming convention with parentheses, like mvn(com.ongres.scram:client). They don't work on the command line without escaping the parens, and I'm not sure what information they are conveying. The explanation of this was not
It's a common convention used in the rpm packaging to indicate what you're needing instead of specifying a specific package. The required "library" (or whatever) could move to another package and it wouldn't matter. But it's just as useful when you know you need a certain dependency, but don't know which package it is. And yes, you do have to quote them, at least if you're using bash.
Random examples: # rpm -q --provides perl-bignum
perl(Math::BigFloat::Trace) = 0.60
perl(Math::BigInt::Trace) = 0.60
perl(bigint) = 0.60
perl(bignum) = 0.60
perl(bigrat) = 0.60
# rpm -q --provides openssl-devel
pkgconfig(libcrypto) = 1.1.1n
pkgconfig(libssl) = 1.1.1n
pkgconfig(openssl) = 1.1.1n
For Java, you would use the "mvn()" notation if you know the Java package name (Maven dependency) you're looking for: # dnf install "mvn(com.ongres.scram:client)" Package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch is already installed.
On Wed, 18 May 2022 22:32:49 -0700 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
It's a common convention used in the rpm packaging to indicate what you're needing instead of specifying a specific package. The required "library" (or whatever) could move to another package and it wouldn't matter. But it's just as useful when you know you need a certain dependency, but don't know which package it is. And yes, you do have to quote them, at least if you're using bash.
Random examples: # rpm -q --provides perl-bignum
perl(Math::BigFloat::Trace) = 0.60
perl(Math::BigInt::Trace) = 0.60
perl(bigint) = 0.60
perl(bignum) = 0.60
perl(bigrat) = 0.60
# rpm -q --provides openssl-devel
pkgconfig(libcrypto) = 1.1.1n
pkgconfig(libssl) = 1.1.1n
pkgconfig(openssl) = 1.1.1n
For Java, you would use the "mvn()" notation if you know the Java package name (Maven dependency) you're looking for: # dnf install "mvn(com.ongres.scram:client)" Package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch is already installed.
Thanks for the explanation.
On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.
Tried manual install on F35 system
sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math
and got this strange result
Error: Problem: conflicting requests - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b ut none of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but none of the providers can be installed - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none of the providers can be installed - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out by modular filtering
What are these missing requirements?
There is only one missing dependency here. The whole chain comes down to that last line. According to a man page, that most likely indicates that some module is overriding that package.
What does "dnf module list --enabled" show?
On 5/19/22 01:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.
Tried manual install on F35 system
sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math
and got this strange result
Error: Problem: conflicting requests - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b ut none of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but none of the providers can be installed - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none of the providers can be installed - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out by modular filtering
What are these missing requirements?
There is only one missing dependency here. The whole chain comes down to that last line. According to a man page, that most likely indicates that some module is overriding that package.
What does "dnf module list --enabled" show?
# dnf module list --enabled Last metadata expiration check: 2:06:42 ago on Thu 19 May 2022 06:24:39 AM EDT. @modulefailsafe Name Stream Profiles Summary ant 1.10 [e] default Java build tool maven 3.5 [e] default Java project management and project comprehension tool
Hint: [d]efault, [e]nabled, [x]disabled, [i]nstalled
No modules show as installed. I don't use apache that I know about unless some components are pulled by other rpm.
On 5/19/22 06:12, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
On 5/19/22 01:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.
Tried manual install on F35 system
sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math
and got this strange result
Error: Problem: conflicting requests - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b ut none of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but none of the providers can be installed - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none of the providers can be installed - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out by modular filtering
What are these missing requirements?
There is only one missing dependency here. The whole chain comes down to that last line. According to a man page, that most likely indicates that some module is overriding that package.
What does "dnf module list --enabled" show?
# dnf module list --enabled Last metadata expiration check: 2:06:42 ago on Thu 19 May 2022 06:24:39 AM EDT. @modulefailsafe Name Stream Profiles Summary ant 1.10 [e] default Java build tool maven 3.5 [e] default Java project management and project comprehension tool
Hint: [d]efault, [e]nabled, [x]disabled, [i]nstalled
No modules show as installed. I don't use apache that I know about unless some components are pulled by other rpm.
They are enabled, so they override the default repo. Run "dnf module reset *" and then try the original install again.
On 5/19/22 20:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/19/22 06:12, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
On 5/19/22 01:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.
Tried manual install on F35 system
sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math
and got this strange result
Error: Problem: conflicting requests - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p roviders can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b ut none of the providers can be installed - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non e of the providers can be installed - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but none of the providers can be installed - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none of the providers can be installed - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out by modular filtering
What are these missing requirements?
There is only one missing dependency here. The whole chain comes down to that last line. According to a man page, that most likely indicates that some module is overriding that package.
What does "dnf module list --enabled" show?
# dnf module list --enabled Last metadata expiration check: 2:06:42 ago on Thu 19 May 2022 06:24:39 AM EDT. @modulefailsafe Name Stream Profiles Summary ant 1.10 [e] default Java build tool maven 3.5 [e] default Java project management and project comprehension tool
Hint: [d]efault, [e]nabled, [x]disabled, [i]nstalled
No modules show as installed. I don't use apache that I know about unless some components are pulled by other rpm.
They are enabled, so they override the default repo. Run "dnf module reset *" and then try the original install again. _______________________________________________
That worked, Thanks
On 5/2/22 09:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/2/22 11:34, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
On 5/2/22 05:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/2/22 08:03, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
> I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can > also use it on her Windows system using Access. > > So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice > Base is what I want. > > So I did: > > dnf install libreoffice-base > > which worked, and then tried launching it and > > nothing... > > Any hints on getting this running?
Yes. You need to install all of LibreOffice so you can achieve interaction between LO Calc and LO Base.
I have, I think, all of LibreOffice installed. I use Write, Calc, and Impress on a regular basis. Interesting that Base is not installed when you do your Fedora Install and select to install the LIbreOffice Office suite.
I am under the impression that the standard LibreOffice installation does install all of the modules. When I go to the menu application in this Linux distribution, it lists office as one line item. Sliding the mouse over that item expands it to a list of many items, the top five of which are LilbreOffice, then LibreOffice Write, Calc, Impress and Draw, in that order. LIbreOffice Base is not listed. However, if I choose to launch the first item, LibreOffice, without a specific application mentioned, LO opens to show an area of recent documents icons on the right, and a list of six applications, including Math Formulas and Base database, on the left. Clicking on Base opens a wizard that allows me to either create a new database, open an existing database in this machine, or connect to another database on another machine. After choosing, for example, to create a new database, another screen appears offering whether or not to register the database with LO, and whether to save the database for editing to create tables using the table wizard. Clicking Finish opens the Base application for work on the open file.
No command lines are involved in this process.
I suggest you check your machine's application menu for a LibreOffice item that does not mention a specific application, then open that to see if the Base application is listed. If it is, the proceed as above from there. If it is not, I suggest you update all of LO to the latest version, either from Fedora, or the LibreOffice web site.
I have been running the Xfce desktop for lots of years of using Fedora. Maybe at least back to Fedora 20.
I have always installed LibreOffice during the base installation. The database component has NEVER been included to the best of my recollection. There were a couple times I wanted to work with an Access database, and since Base was not installed, I just switched to a Win system.
So I have never used Base for all these years. Only now trying.
I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with LibreOffice installed. When I go to a running instance of Calc, and <Alt-F> -> New, Base Database is NOT an option. Like it is just not linked in....
Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?
:(
I would not jump to the conclusion that it is a generic problem with all of LibreOffice and Xfce. If it were, I think we would have heard about it before now.
However, there may be some unique characteristics of your system's installation of the software.
My first thought is to do a general tidying up of the software by uninstalling, then reinstalling a fresh copy of the latest version of the code. Of course, before doing any such work, one should make a safe copy of all of the types of files with which LibreOffice is concerned -- documents, spreadsheets, drawings, presentations, etc., to another part of the system's storage structure. It's a good idea to verify that sufficient storage space is available so no untoward surprises present themselves.
Here is a link to a recent set of instructions about how to go about doing a fresh installation of LibreOffice on Fedora 35.
https://www.linuxcapable.com/install-libreoffice-on-fedora-linux-35/
I include this link because it includes reminders to insure that the system itself is up-to-date, and it features the Flatpak installation process that now seems to be preferred for Fedora systems. Whichever installation method is used for LibreOffice, it should be an established electronic system method because LibreOffice is a large and complex set of software that it discourages manual installation.
LO Calc has the ability to import and export comma separated files (.CSV) and dBase files (.DBF).
I have done .CSV.
Your wife's Access system can export one of the importable file formats to work in LO Base, and then import from Access through LO Calc in a format that LO Calc is able to import and then provide to LO Base to use.
LO Base does not appear to have the ability to directly import and export the native Access file format, but it can send and receive appropriately formatted table files.
Humph. This may take rethinking, as I will be expected to 'help' at times, and I can't keep importing and exporting.
Perhaps the rethinking will involve a virtual machine on your hardware within which is running Windows and Access, and appropriate network access between your and your wife's machine.
Might as well just use a Win system.
But what is with Base???
Base is a bit different sort of application because it was never intended to be completely limited to just an individual personal computer. I has always had in mind the idea of being a "front-end" application to a much larger database engine on a remote machine, so it does not act as if it is totally complete on a personal computer. It is always looking for a connection to really "big iron," so it assumes that its user will do the extra installation work to make such connections available.
This idea is not unique to LibreOffice Data. Microsoft Access also has not so secret desires to be mated with larger databases, and to act as a front-end presenter.
Since database files can grow quite large, it is not a bad idea to evaluate the amount of random access memory, hard drive space, and solid state storage available to optimize the operation of whichever combination of database engines and data files are to be placed into service.
Ken
On 5/2/22 11:30, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
I include this link because it includes reminders to insure that the system itself is up-to-date, and it features the Flatpak installation process that now seems to be preferred for Fedora systems. Whichever
I don't know why you think that Flatpak is "preferred" now. The RPMs are kept up to date and work great. And a native installation will generally work better than something like flatpak.
On 5/2/22 15:28, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/2/22 11:30, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
I include this link because it includes reminders to insure that the system itself is up-to-date, and it features the Flatpak installation process that now seems to be preferred for Fedora systems. Whichever
I don't know why you think that Flatpak is "preferred" now. The RPMs are kept up to date and work great. And a native installation will generally work better than something like flatpak.
I got this idea from the Fedora documentation. For example,
Flatpak
Flatpaks https://flatpak.org are a new way of deploying applications. If you have an application already packaged as a Fedora package, creating Flatpak offers a number of advantages:
*
The application can be safely updated without rebooting the system (you can update a package without rebooting your system using dnf from the command line, of course, but GNOME Software only offers updating applications as part of an offline system update.)
*
The application can seamlessly be installed on Fedora Silverblue
*
The Flatpak works across all supported Fedora versions - you don’t have to update trailing versions of Fedora for people to use the newest application version.
*
The Flatpak can be run by people running on other distributions
Fedora Flatpaks builds from existing Fedora packages to ensure that everything remains free and open source and complies with Fedora’s standards.
Technically speaking, Fedora Flatpaks reuses existing RPMs from the Fedora Linux repositories and converts them to Flatpak applications using several tools.
These Flatpak notes are taken from : https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/flatpak/
and from https://fedoramagazine.org/an-introduction-to-fedora-flatpaks/
Notice there are no caveats or cautions concerning flatpaks. In contrast,
RPM
The *RPM Package Manager* only works with packages built in the *RPM format*. *RPM* itself is provided as the pre-installed *rpm* package. For the end user, *RPM* makes system updates easy. Installing, uninstalling, and upgrading *RPM* packages can be accomplished with short commands. *RPM* maintains a database of installed packages and their files, so you can make queries and verify installed files on your system. There are several applications, such as *DNF* or *PackageKit*, that can make working with packages in the *RPM* format even easier.
*Warning*
Use DNF Instead of RPM Whenever Possible
For most package-management tasks, the *DNF* package manager offers equal and often greater capabilities and utility than *RPM*. *DNF* also performs and tracks complicated system-dependency resolutions. *DNF* maintains the system integrity and forces a system integrity check if packages are installed or removed using another application, such as *RPM*, instead of *DNF*. For these reasons, it is highly recommended that you use *DNF* instead of *RPM* whenever possible to perform package-management tasks. See DNF https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/system-administrators-guide/package-management/DNF/#ch-DNF.
If you prefer a graphical interface, you can use the *PackageKit* GUI application, which uses *DNF* as its back end, to manage your system’s packages.
Note
Because *RPM* can make changes to the system itself, performing operations like installing, upgrading, downgrading, and uninstalling binary packages system-wide requires |root| privileges in most cases.
These RPM quotes come from the Fedora User Docs / System Administrator's Guide
I do recognize that RPMs are a time-honored file and package management system that has over a quarter of a century of service with Red Hat Linux code, and that users and developers have extended and improved the technology during that time. None the less, competing technologies, such as flatpaks, have grown and matured from the works of many Linux developers.
Flatpaks have been available in Fedora since release 23, and considering the current release is 37, one may reasonably call flatpaks native code.
Ken
On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 08:48 -0700, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
The Flatpak works across all supported Fedora versions - you don’t have to update trailing versions of Fedora for people to use the newest application version.
The same can be said about RPMs: They work across all supported versions, and don't work on the unsupported ones. It's a nonsense argument.
I can't say this about flatpaks, but I've definitely come across appimages that cannot be used on a release, because it wasn't supported.
On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 11:30 -0700, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
My first thought is to do a general tidying up of the software by uninstalling, then reinstalling a fresh copy of the latest version of the code. Of course, before doing any such work, one should make a safe copy of all of the types of files with which LibreOffice is concerned -- documents, spreadsheets, drawings, presentations, etc., to another part of the system's storage structure. It's a good idea to verify that sufficient storage space is available so no untoward surprises present themselves.
In general, the remove and reinstall mantra coming from Windows users doesn't fix anything. You're back at square one unless something surprisingly failed to install the first time around, and did so without any kind of error warning. Or you'd somehow removed just a section of it later on.
It's most likely that things were properly installed the first time, and repeating the same process isn't going to change anything. It's a rarity that such commonly used things have installation problems, they get noticed very quickly. That's the kind of thing more likely with obscure programs that almost no-one uses.
Of course there's no harm in trying, but it rarely fixes anything.
Also, your own files (documents, etc) are not affected in any way by uninstalling or installing applications. Your files are stored in your own homespace, not in the middle of any program files. And uninstall routines only uninstall program files.
There also seems to be a misunderstanding of "base" along the thread. LibreOffice is the core of a system, so to speak, libreoffice-base is a database interface that it can use.
On Tue, 03 May 2022 09:11:59 +0930 Tim via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
There also seems to be a misunderstanding of "base" along the thread. LibreOffice is the core of a system, so to speak, libreoffice-base is a database interface that it can use.
yes, and I see no real reason to think it's a fedora-specific issue. Why not ask on a LO list?
d
2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only executable file in libreoffice-base.
On 5/2/22 04:41, Andras Simon wrote:
2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only executable file in libreoffice-base.
saved me asking this basic question. :)
Typed it into a Terminal window and...
Nothing.
Just came back with the command prompt.
:(
On Mon, 2 May 2022 05:42:51 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 5/2/22 04:41, Andras Simon wrote:
2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only executable file in libreoffice-base.
saved me asking this basic question. :)
Typed it into a Terminal window and...
Nothing.
Just came back with the command prompt.
:(
what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base
d
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On 5/2/22 06:04, Dave Stevens via users wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 05:42:51 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 5/2/22 04:41, Andras Simon wrote:
2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only executable file in libreoffice-base.
saved me asking this basic question. :)
Typed it into a Terminal window and...
Nothing.
Just came back with the command prompt.
:(
what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base
[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice7.3 --base bash: libreoffice7.3: command not found [rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice --base [rgm@lx140e ~]$
No dice. May be time to open a bug report???
Den 2022-05-02 kl. 14:14, skrev Robert Moskowitz:
On 5/2/22 06:04, Dave Stevens via users wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 05:42:51 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 5/2/22 04:41, Andras Simon wrote:
2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only executable file in libreoffice-base.
saved me asking this basic question. :)
Typed it into a Terminal window and...
Nothing.
Just came back with the command prompt.
:(
what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base
[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice7.3 --base bash: libreoffice7.3: command not found [rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice --base [rgm@lx140e ~]$
No dice. May be time to open a bug report???
What does
$ rpm -qa|grep ^libreoffice
give you?
On 5/2/22 08:41, Jon Ingason via users wrote:
Den 2022-05-02 kl. 14:14, skrev Robert Moskowitz:
On 5/2/22 06:04, Dave Stevens via users wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2022 05:42:51 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 5/2/22 04:41, Andras Simon wrote:
2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only executable file in libreoffice-base.
saved me asking this basic question. :)
Typed it into a Terminal window and...
Nothing.
Just came back with the command prompt.
:(
what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base
[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice7.3 --base bash: libreoffice7.3: command not found [rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice --base [rgm@lx140e ~]$
No dice. May be time to open a bug report???
What does
$ rpm -qa|grep ^libreoffice
give you?
$ rpm -qa|grep ^libreoffice libreoffice-data-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.noarch libreoffice-ure-common-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.noarch libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.noarch libreoffice-help-en-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-gtk3-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-ure-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-x11-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-core-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-langpack-en-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-pyuno-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-pdfimport-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-writer-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-graphicfilter-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-ogltrans-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-impress-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-emailmerge-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-calc-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 libreoffice-base-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
On 5/2/22 06:55, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
libreoffice-base-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
I have the same version and running "oobase" from the terminal or selecting the application icon both work. There must be something specific to your system. The lack of any messages on the terminal suggests that something is already running. Try closing all your LibreOffice windows then try again.
But even if you do get this working, I don't think it's going to solve your original question. You can't create an Access database with LibreOffice and even accessing one is very complicated, probably requiring third-party components. (It might be easier if you're running LibreOffice on Windows.)
Dave Stevens:
what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base
Robert Moskowitz:
[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice7.3 --base bash: libreoffice7.3: command not found [rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice --base [rgm@lx140e ~]$
No dice. May be time to open a bug report???
I would try typing the beginning of the word libreoffice and double- tapping TAB to see what it fills in. On my non-Fedora system, it's simply libreoffice, & no version numbers added to the command name.
On 5/2/22 09:21, Tim via users wrote:
Dave Stevens:
what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base
Robert Moskowitz:
[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice7.3 --base bash: libreoffice7.3: command not found [rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice --base [rgm@lx140e ~]$
No dice. May be time to open a bug report???
I would try typing the beginning of the word libreoffice and double- tapping TAB to see what it fills in. On my non-Fedora system, it's simply libreoffice, & no version numbers added to the command name.
A long list of all the files and directories in the current directory...
Nothing else that I caught.
Mon, 2 May 2022 09:54:05 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com kirjoitti:
A long list of all the files and directories in the current directory...
Nothing else that I caught.
When I type libreoffice in console, libreoffice opens, have you all rights ok. And which libreoffice /usr/bin/libreoffice
Jarmo
On 5/2/22 11:27, jarmo wrote:
Mon, 2 May 2022 09:54:05 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com kirjoitti:
A long list of all the files and directories in the current directory...
Nothing else that I caught.
When I type libreoffice in console, libreoffice opens, have you all rights ok. And which libreoffice /usr/bin/libreoffice
That is what I have. When I enter libreoffice, it just switches me to whatever was the last viewed open instance of Libreoffice. Which right now is a spreadsheet in Calc.
On 2022-05-02 09:27, jarmo wrote:
Mon, 2 May 2022 09:54:05 -0400 Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com kirjoitti:
A long list of all the files and directories in the current directory...
Nothing else that I caught.
When I type libreoffice in console, libreoffice opens, have you all rights ok. And which libreoffice /usr/bin/libreoffice
Jarmo
Mine opens me into a generic window with a list of recent files and a menu on the side with the ability to create a new: Writer Document Calc Spreadsheet Impress Presentation Draw Drawing Math Formula Base Database
On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 3:43 AM Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
saved me asking this basic question. :)
Typed it into a Terminal window and...
Nothing.
Just came back with the command prompt.
:(
If all else fails, and it sounds like it has, here's a technique I have used to find out why something fails to launch. Install strace ("sudo dnf install strace"). Then run this command in a terminal:
strace -ff -o oobase -s 1024 oobase
When that exits, you will have 1 or more files with names of the form oobase.<number> in the current directory. One of them may have a clue as to what is going on. Upload them somewhere, and I'll take a look to see if the cause is apparent.
On 2022-05-01 19:31, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base is what I want.
So I did:
dnf install libreoffice-base
which worked, and then tried launching it and
nothing...
Any hints on getting this running?
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I tried a different approach since I use base and have for years.
I tried to uninstall it and see what it wanted to remove.
dnf erase libreoffice-base pam_mount password: Dependencies resolved. ============================================================================================================================================================================ Package Architecture Version ============================================================================================================================================================================ Removing: libreoffice-base x86_64 1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35
Removing dependent packages: libreoffice x86_64 1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35
Removing unused dependencies: firebird x86_64 4.0.0.2496-5.fc35
firebird-utils x86_64 4.0.0.2496-5.fc35
flute noarch 1.3.0-26.OOo31.fc35
libbase noarch 1.1.3-30.fc35
libfbclient2 x86_64 4.0.0.2496-5.fc35
libfonts noarch 1.1.3-34.fc35
libformula noarch 1.1.3-31.fc35
libib-util x86_64 4.0.0.2496-5.fc35
liblayout noarch 0.2.10-25.fc35
libloader noarch 1.1.3-32.fc35
libreoffice-emailmerge x86_64 1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35
librepository noarch 1.1.3-31.fc35
libserializer noarch 1.1.2-30.fc35
pentaho-libxml noarch 1.1.3-30.fc35
pentaho-reporting-flow-engine noarch 1:0.9.4-24.fc35
postgresql-jdbc noarch 42.2.25-1.fc35
sac noarch 1.3-36.fc35
Transaction Summary ============================================================================================================================================================================ Remove 19 Packages
Maybe there is a package that from this list that is missing.
I have has some issues and found that if I tried to do something in a different account they work. Something in my own account prevents it from working properly. Maybe an old configuration setting of some sort.
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