I was just curious if a FC3 kernel-source rpm was in the works for the latest kernel update? I can build a kernel from scratch, but I do not know the order to apply the patches.
Thanks, Billy
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:29:11PM -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
I was just curious if a FC3 kernel-source rpm was in the works for the latest kernel update? I can build a kernel from scratch, but I do not know the order to apply the patches.
No. Please read the release notes.
Dave
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:29:11PM -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
I was just curious if a FC3 kernel-source rpm was in the works for the latest kernel update? I can build a kernel from scratch, but I do not know the order to apply the patches.
You mean the src.rpm? That's there already. If you mean a 'binary' RPM named kernel-source, you need to read the release notes or about 15% of the messages on this list.
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 23:28 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:29:11PM -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
I was just curious if a FC3 kernel-source rpm was in the works for the latest kernel update? I can build a kernel from scratch, but I do not know the order to apply the patches.
You mean the src.rpm? That's there already. If you mean a 'binary' RPM named kernel-source, you need to read the release notes or about 15% of the messages on this list.
May I suggest a README_kernel-source-2.6.10-1.760_FC3 in the update directory on the download site? There would be much less traffic about it.
-- Matthew Miller mattdm@mattdm.org http://www.mattdm.org/ --> Fedora Users & Developers Conference, hosted by Boston University <-- February 18th, 2005 http://fedoraproject.org/fudcon/
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:55:51PM -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 23:28 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:29:11PM -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
I was just curious if a FC3 kernel-source rpm was in the works for the latest kernel update? I can build a kernel from scratch, but I do not know the order to apply the patches.
You mean the src.rpm? That's there already. If you mean a 'binary' RPM named kernel-source, you need to read the release notes or about 15% of the messages on this list.
May I suggest a README_kernel-source-2.6.10-1.760_FC3 in the update directory on the download site? There would be much less traffic about it.
People can't be bothered to read the release notes that come with the ISOs, or searching the list archives, or spend a few seconds googling.
What makes you think they'll go hunting for anything else ?
Dave
On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 00:35 -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:55:51PM -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 23:28 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:29:11PM -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
I was just curious if a FC3 kernel-source rpm was in the works for the latest kernel update? I can build a kernel from scratch, but I do not know the order to apply the patches.
You mean the src.rpm? That's there already. If you mean a 'binary' RPM named kernel-source, you need to read the release notes or about 15% of the messages on this list.
May I suggest a README_kernel-source-2.6.10-1.760_FC3 in the update directory on the download site? There would be much less traffic about it.
People can't be bothered to read the release notes that come with the ISOs, or searching the list archives, or spend a few seconds googling.
Forgive my impatience, but I am one of those poor unfortunate blokes that just spent the last 5 days trying to get FC3 installed because I have an Intel 810 chip set. After not being given the option to boot into text mode (Expert options in the installer???) and no virtual terminal keys working to switch out of the wonderful colors which looked quite pleasant on my screen, I installed without X only to get an endless stream of dependency failures when trying to install the X rpm's by hand (is the rpm dependency tree in the release notes somewhere???). I finally resorted to Google (in text mode) to find a solution to the 810 issue, and got that resolved. After this experience, I became excited with a working machine, and the thought never crossed my mind that a release note would include instructions on how to build your own kernel source rpm since FC1 and FC2 both had them in the update directory.
I did in fact install the .src rpm and found all of the patches. I searched the Red Hat website for a howto on patching the kernel source only to find a link which points here http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Kernel-HOWTO/ which in turn took me to a very knowledgeable, but nevertheless, useless wealth of information for my specific cause that assumes I know the order in which to apply the patches. Hence, my first ever question posted to this list which has left me flamed in a somewhat undertone for not trying.
Where are the archives to this list? There is no link that I can readily find on the Fedora website. Did I look, yes.
Again, forgive me for being impatient, it has been a trying experience.
What makes you think they'll go hunting for anything else ?
Dave
On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 00:33 -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 00:35 -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:55:51PM -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 23:28 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:29:11PM -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
I was just curious if a FC3 kernel-source rpm was in the works for the latest kernel update? I can build a kernel from scratch, but I do not know the order to apply the patches.
You mean the src.rpm? That's there already. If you mean a 'binary' RPM named kernel-source, you need to read the release notes or about 15% of the messages on this list.
May I suggest a README_kernel-source-2.6.10-1.760_FC3 in the update directory on the download site? There would be much less traffic about it.
People can't be bothered to read the release notes that come with the ISOs, or searching the list archives, or spend a few seconds googling.
Forgive my impatience, but I am one of those poor unfortunate blokes that just spent the last 5 days trying to get FC3 installed because I have an Intel 810 chip set. After not being given the option to boot into text mode (Expert options in the installer???) and no virtual terminal keys working to switch out of the wonderful colors which looked quite pleasant on my screen, I installed without X only to get an endless stream of dependency failures when trying to install the X rpm's by hand (is the rpm dependency tree in the release notes somewhere???). I finally resorted to Google (in text mode) to find a solution to the 810 issue, and got that resolved. After this experience, I became excited with a working machine, and the thought never crossed my mind that a release note would include instructions on how to build your own kernel source rpm since FC1 and FC2 both had them in the update directory.
I did in fact install the .src rpm and found all of the patches. I searched the Red Hat website for a howto on patching the kernel source only to find a link which points here http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Kernel-HOWTO/ which in turn took me to a very knowledgeable, but nevertheless, useless wealth of information for my specific cause that assumes I know the order in which to apply the patches. Hence, my first ever question posted to this list which has left me flamed in a somewhat undertone for not trying.
Where are the archives to this list? There is no link that I can readily find on the Fedora website. Did I look, yes.
Again, forgive me for being impatient, it has been a trying experience.
---- some of us (and I will include myself in this despite all attempts to not do it) may be having bad days ourselves and take it out on available people. Flaming is often a sign of getting noticed. I don't recall who/how you were flamed - not a big deal.
Search the archives is a valid answer but often not too helpful.
At the bottom of each and every email is: To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
and if you click it, you will see at the very top of the page, "To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the fedora- list Archives. "
and a click on that link - gets you here... https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/
I believe that there is a search box at the top
Craig
On Tuesday 08 February 2005 01:49 am, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 00:33 -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
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At the bottom of each and every email is: To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
and if you click it, you will see at the very top of the page, "To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the fedora- list Archives. "
and a click on that link - gets you here... https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/
An alternative archive is here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2 It's kind of ugly (unless you're a big fan of mono white on a black background), but it works and is always pretty much up-to-date. You can also search many other list archives from the same page. -- cmg
On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 00:33 -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
I did in fact install the .src rpm and found all of the patches. I searched the Red Hat website for a howto on patching the kernel source only to find a link which points here http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Kernel-HOWTO/ which in turn took me to a very knowledgeable, but nevertheless, useless wealth of information for my specific cause that assumes I know the order in which to apply the patches. Hence, my first ever question posted to this list which has left me flamed in a somewhat undertone for not trying.
For a guide to building your own FC3 custom kernel RPM, try: http://crab-lab.zool.ohiou.edu/kevin/kernel-compilation-tutorial-en/
Where are the archives to this list? There is no link that I can readily find on the Fedora website. Did I look, yes.
I find the best way of searching the archives is simply to go to google, enter your query and just add "fedora-list" to your search query.
Paul.
For a guide to building your own FC3 custom kernel RPM, try: http://crab-lab.zool.ohiou.edu/kevin/kernel-compilation-tutorial-en/
I dont mean to highjack the thread or anything. I used the method mentioned above and had some problems. I would appreciate if someone looks into the errors. The thread is " custom kernel"
Thanks a bunch Shashank
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 12:35:30AM -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
People can't be bothered to read the release notes that come with the ISOs, or searching the list archives, or spend a few seconds googling. What makes you think they'll go hunting for anything else ?
Hey. We've got Hugely Important Red Hat Kernel Hackers wasting their time on this thread. Dave: quit it, man! We've got the RTFMs all covered without you. :)
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 12:35:30AM -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
People can't be bothered to read the release notes that come with the ISOs, or searching the list archives, or spend a few seconds googling. What makes you think they'll go hunting for anything else ?
Hey. We've got Hugely Important Red Hat Kernel Hackers wasting their time on this thread. Dave: quit it, man! We've got the RTFMs all covered without you. :)
yeah. and if someone posts in HTML, we can handle that, too. :-)
rday
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 22:55 -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 23:28 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:29:11PM -0600, Billy Rose wrote:
I was just curious if a FC3 kernel-source rpm was in the works for the latest kernel update? I can build a kernel from scratch, but I do not know the order to apply the patches.
You mean the src.rpm? That's there already. If you mean a 'binary' RPM named kernel-source, you need to read the release notes or about 15% of the messages on this list.
May I suggest a README_kernel-source-2.6.10-1.760_FC3 in the update directory on the download site? There would be much less traffic about it.
--- You not only may, you just did.
Of course this list has traditionally not been the designated place for those types of suggestions...I think that's what bugzilla is for.
My suspicion is that the same people who don't read the release notes don't read the README files. Being one of those people, I understand this behavior. I haven't however asked about kernel-source files for FC3
Craig
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