I know you guys have probably been pretty much fending off the naysayers for the last couple of days who are predicting doom on Red Hat. I will admit I dont agree with the route Red Hat has taken but I am going to give Fedora Core a fair chance and I am not going to jump the gun and immediate start suggesting SuSE Linux to my clients. I have a couple of questions that I would like to have answered and if no one on the list can answer these questions can someone please pass them along to a Red Hat associate.
1. Will Red Hat be extending the EOL for any of its older products such as RH 7.x and 8.x and will they allow any further renewal subscriptions to services for these older products?
2. Will Red Hat make boxed versions available of Fedora Core through the online store or is there a plan to get a third party retail firm behind it?
3. Will Red Hat extend any kind of service agreements to users of Fedora Core in a production environment who are subscribed to the RHEL services?
4. Has anyone heard or talked to Sun about the status of Java support extending to Fedora Core as they do through Red Hat 8.x and 9.x?
5. What will be the status of NVidia driver support for Fedora Core?
Most of my clients need Java and the NVidia or ATI support and they do not wish to subscribe to RHEL, most of them have inside Linux techs who do most of the updates for them or for anything really intensive they call me and my company.
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On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 12:16, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote:
I know you guys have probably been pretty much fending off the naysayers for the last couple of days who are predicting doom on Red Hat. I will
From what I have read from the FAQ and other posts.
- Will Red Hat be extending the EOL for any of its older products such
as RH 7.x and 8.x and will they allow any further renewal subscriptions to services for these older products?
No. You can find third party companies who will do this though.
- Will Red Hat make boxed versions available of Fedora Core through the
online store or is there a plan to get a third party retail firm behind it?
Not at the present time if ever. It costs mucho money to push something with such a short shelf-life into the retail channel. You basically end up having to pay retailers to take it and thus you lose money.
- Will Red Hat extend any kind of service agreements to users of Fedora
Core in a production environment who are subscribed to the RHEL services?
No. Red Hat isnt offering any support for Fedora, and only limited maintenance for it.
- Has anyone heard or talked to Sun about the status of Java support
extending to Fedora Core as they do through Red Hat 8.x and 9.x?
Nothing official. I am using the latest Java RPM on my RHEL beta box, and had no problems with it on Severn 1 when I was testing it.
- What will be the status of NVidia driver support for Fedora Core?
From what I have heard it works for some cards.. not for others. Being
binary only you get to deal with NVidia on all issues of getting it working.
Most of my clients need Java and the NVidia or ATI support and they do not wish to subscribe to RHEL, most of them have inside Linux techs who do most of the updates for them or for anything really intensive they call me and my company.
Roberto J. Dohnert wrote:
I know you guys have probably been pretty much fending off the naysayers for the last couple of days who are predicting doom on Red Hat. I will admit I dont agree with the route Red Hat has taken but I am going to give Fedora Core a fair chance and I am not going to jump the gun and immediate start suggesting SuSE Linux to my clients. I have a couple of questions
IBM distribution, aka SuSE, is free 'close sofware' plus some proprietary sofware. I dislike this. And: "_At the moment_ we are maintaining SuSE Linux for 2 years - that means Bug fixes and Security fixes will be released for two years for each SuSE Linux version. Contrary to our business products with maintenance this is _not_ guaranteed."
- Will Red Hat be extending the EOL for any of its older products such
as RH 7.x and 8.x and will they allow any further renewal subscriptions to services for these older products?
NO.
Maybe an external team, community work, will work on it. No warranties.
- Will Red Hat make boxed versions available of Fedora Core through the
online store or is there a plan to get a third party retail firm behind it?
NO. Only at the NET.
- Will Red Hat extend any kind of service agreements to users of Fedora
Core in a production environment who are subscribed to the RHEL services?
NO. There is not Red Hat support to Fedora.
- Has anyone heard or talked to Sun about the status of Java support
extending to Fedora Core as they do through Red Hat 8.x and 9.x?
Red Hat only certifies products in RHEL. Maybe the "putting the bank in bankruptcy" guys are working to support Fedora. I don't know. But if it works with 9 it should be work with Fedora, more or less.
- What will be the status of NVidia driver support for Fedora Core?
Most of my clients need Java and the NVidia or ATI support and they do not
if it is binary, forget it : http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=73733
RH _only_ works with free software, and it's a good policy
wish to subscribe to RHEL, most of them have inside Linux techs who do most of the updates for them or for anything really intensive they call me and my company.
If you *only* want updates, there is an option to purchase it without support. RHEL ES $349 and RHEL WS $179.
to get more information take a look:
http://fedora.redhat.com/about/rhel.html http://fedora.redhat.com/about/faq/
http://fedora.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel
Xose Vazquez Perez wrote:
Roberto J. Dohnert wrote:
I know you guys have probably been pretty much fending off the naysayers for the last couple of days who are predicting doom on Red Hat. I will admit I dont agree with the route Red Hat has taken but I am going to give Fedora Core a fair chance and I am not going to jump the gun and immediate start suggesting SuSE Linux to my clients. I have a couple of questions [...]
I just saw a interview to Jeremy Hogan of Red Hat, with more detailed answers to your questions
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=96722
Roberto J. Dohnert (webwarrior@gnu-darwin.org) said:
- Will Red Hat be extending the EOL for any of its older products such
as RH 7.x and 8.x and will they allow any further renewal subscriptions to services for these older products?
That is not currently planned.
- Will Red Hat make boxed versions available of Fedora Core through the
online store
No.
or is there a plan to get a third party retail firm behind it?
Third parties may distribute it. Note the trademark guidelines available at http://fedora.redhat.com/about/trademarks/
- Will Red Hat extend any kind of service agreements to users of Fedora
Core in a production environment who are subscribed to the RHEL services?
I don't think that's currently planned.
- Has anyone heard or talked to Sun about the status of Java support
extending to Fedora Core as they do through Red Hat 8.x and 9.x?
- What will be the status of NVidia driver support for Fedora Core?
Those really depend on what Sun and nVidia do; it's not up to us.
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