F24 starts in command line only

[Temlakos]

Everyone:

Today I ran dnf system upgrade to go from F22 to F24. (Long story, 
including RPMFusion not getting their free and nonfree repos on-line 
until only the week just passed.)

The problem: my system starts with a command line. Rebooting will not 
start my favorite desktop environment, which is KDE.

How do I start it consistently in graphic mode?

Temlakos

[Temlakos]

On 06/25/2016 02:34 PM, Temlakos wrote:
> Everyone:
>
> Today I ran dnf system upgrade to go from F22 to F24. (Long story, 
> including RPMFusion not getting their free and nonfree repos on-line 
> until only the week just passed.)
>
> The problem: my system starts with a command line. Rebooting will not 
> start my favorite desktop environment, which is KDE.
>
> How do I start it consistently in graphic mode?
>
> Temlakos

Postscript:

The sysctrld reports that the default target is graphical, and /not/ 
multi-user.

The command "startx" does work. When I run "startx" after logging in, it 
starts KDE as usual. But many things that were automatic, I have to 
specify by keyboard or by mouse.

Is this the usual settling-in behavior for fresh F24 upgrades?

At least, once I have my desktop environment back, most applications 
start and run as configured, and as usual.

Temlakos

[Rami Rosen]

Hi, Terry,

What does ls -al /etc/systemd/system/default.target shows ?

Is it a soft link to  /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target ? or does it
point to /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target?

If it is the second one, then try to remove it and create a link to
graphical.target, thus:
rm /etc/systemd/system/default.target
ln -s /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target

And try to see after reboot it automatically starts KDE as usual..

It could be that what happened to you is some bug in the upgrade
process under some specific setup.

Good luck!

Regards,
Rami Rosen

On 25 June 2016 at 22:22, Temlakos  wrote:
> On 06/25/2016 02:34 PM, Temlakos wrote:
>
> Everyone:
>
> Today I ran dnf system upgrade to go from F22 to F24. (Long story, including
> RPMFusion not getting their free and nonfree repos on-line until only the
> week just passed.)
>
> The problem: my system starts with a command line. Rebooting will not start
> my favorite desktop environment, which is KDE.
>
> How do I start it consistently in graphic mode?
>
> Temlakos
>
> Postscript:
>
> The sysctrld reports that the default target is graphical, and not
> multi-user.
>
> The command "startx" does work. When I run "startx" after logging in, it
> starts KDE as usual. But many things that were automatic, I have to specify
> by keyboard or by mouse.
>
> Is this the usual settling-in behavior for fresh F24 upgrades?
>
> At least, once I have my desktop environment back, most applications start
> and run as configured, and as usual.
>
> Temlakos
>
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[Andrew Strozyk]

Not trying to be picky, but if that is the real problem it probably will just be easier to run the following command to change the default target:

sudo systemctl set-default default.target

________________________________
From: Rami Rosen 
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:30:13 PM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: F24 starts in command line only

Hi, Terry,

What does ls -al /etc/systemd/system/default.target shows ?

Is it a soft link to  /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target ? or does it
point to /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target?

If it is the second one, then try to remove it and create a link to
graphical.target, thus:
rm /etc/systemd/system/default.target
ln -s /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target

And try to see after reboot it automatically starts KDE as usual..

It could be that what happened to you is some bug in the upgrade
process under some specific setup.

Good luck!

Regards,
Rami Rosen

On 25 June 2016 at 22:22, Temlakos  wrote:
> On 06/25/2016 02:34 PM, Temlakos wrote:
>
> Everyone:
>
> Today I ran dnf system upgrade to go from F22 to F24. (Long story, including
> RPMFusion not getting their free and nonfree repos on-line until only the
> week just passed.)
>
> The problem: my system starts with a command line. Rebooting will not start
> my favorite desktop environment, which is KDE.
>
> How do I start it consistently in graphic mode?
>
> Temlakos
>
> Postscript:
>
> The sysctrld reports that the default target is graphical, and not
> multi-user.
>
> The command "startx" does work. When I run "startx" after logging in, it
> starts KDE as usual. But many things that were automatic, I have to specify
> by keyboard or by mouse.
>
> Is this the usual settling-in behavior for fresh F24 upgrades?
>
> At least, once I have my desktop environment back, most applications start
> and run as configured, and as usual.
>
> Temlakos
>
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[Andrew Strozyk]

Sorry, had a typo:
sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target
________________________________
From: Andrew Strozyk 
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:35:06 PM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: F24 starts in command line only

Not trying to be picky, but if that is the real problem it probably will just be easier to run the following command to change the default target:

sudo systemctl set-default default.target

________________________________
From: Rami Rosen 
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:30:13 PM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: F24 starts in command line only

Hi, Terry,

What does ls -al /etc/systemd/system/default.target shows ?

Is it a soft link to  /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target ? or does it
point to /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target?

If it is the second one, then try to remove it and create a link to
graphical.target, thus:
rm /etc/systemd/system/default.target
ln -s /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target

And try to see after reboot it automatically starts KDE as usual..

It could be that what happened to you is some bug in the upgrade
process under some specific setup.

Good luck!

Regards,
Rami Rosen

On 25 June 2016 at 22:22, Temlakos  wrote:
> On 06/25/2016 02:34 PM, Temlakos wrote:
>
> Everyone:
>
> Today I ran dnf system upgrade to go from F22 to F24. (Long story, including
> RPMFusion not getting their free and nonfree repos on-line until only the
> week just passed.)
>
> The problem: my system starts with a command line. Rebooting will not start
> my favorite desktop environment, which is KDE.
>
> How do I start it consistently in graphic mode?
>
> Temlakos
>
> Postscript:
>
> The sysctrld reports that the default target is graphical, and not
> multi-user.
>
> The command "startx" does work. When I run "startx" after logging in, it
> starts KDE as usual. But many things that were automatic, I have to specify
> by keyboard or by mouse.
>
> Is this the usual settling-in behavior for fresh F24 upgrades?
>
> At least, once I have my desktop environment back, most applications start
> and run as configured, and as usual.
>
> Temlakos
>
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[Joe Zeff]

On 06/25/2016 12:30 PM, Rami Rosen wrote:
> What does ls -al /etc/systemd/system/default.target shows ?

What does systemctl status graphical.target show?

[Temlakos]

On 06/25/2016 03:30 PM, Rami Rosen wrote:
> Hi, Terry,
>
> What does ls -al /etc/systemd/system/default.target shows ?
>
> Is it a soft link to  /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target ? or does it
> point to /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target?
>
> If it is the second one, then try to remove it and create a link to
> graphical.target, thus:
> rm /etc/systemd/system/default.target
> ln -s /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target
>
> And try to see after reboot it automatically starts KDE as usual..
>
> It could be that what happened to you is some bug in the upgrade
> process under some specific setup.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Regards,
> Rami Rosen

In fact, the listing shows a symlink to the graphical target, not the 
multi-user target.

I'm going to answer everyone's e-mail now before I try logging off and 
logging back in. As I said, I ran startx and got KDE to start, though I 
had to specify, by mouse, a reconnection to my favorite wireless network.

Temlakos
> On 25 June 2016 at 22:22, Temlakos  wrote:
> > On 06/25/2016 02:34 PM, Temlakos wrote:
> >
> > Everyone:
> >
> > Today I ran dnf system upgrade to go from F22 to F24. (Long story, including
> > RPMFusion not getting their free and nonfree repos on-line until only the
> > week just passed.)
> >
> > The problem: my system starts with a command line. Rebooting will not start
> > my favorite desktop environment, which is KDE.
> >
> > How do I start it consistently in graphic mode?
> >
> > Temlakos
> >
> > Postscript:
> >
> > The sysctrld reports that the default target is graphical, and not
> > multi-user.
> >
> > The command "startx" does work. When I run "startx" after logging in, it
> > starts KDE as usual. But many things that were automatic, I have to specify
> > by keyboard or by mouse.
> >
> > Is this the usual settling-in behavior for fresh F24 upgrades?
> >
> > At least, once I have my desktop environment back, most applications start
> > and run as configured, and as usual.
> >
> > Temlakos
> >
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[Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco]

On Jun 25, 2016 1:23 PM, "Temlakos"  wrote:
> On 06/25/2016 02:34 PM, Temlakos wrote:
> > Everyone:
> >
> > Today I ran dnf system upgrade to go from F22 to F24. (Long story,

including RPMFusion not getting their free and nonfree repos on-line until
only the week just passed.)
> > The problem: my system starts with a command line. Rebooting will not

start my favorite desktop environment, which is KDE.
> > How do I start it consistently in graphic mode?
> >
> > Temlakos
>
> Postscript:
>
> The sysctrld reports that the default target is graphical, and not

multi-user.
> The command "startx" does work. When I run "startx" after logging in, it

starts KDE as usual. But many things that were automatic, I have to specify
by keyboard or by mouse.
>

Maybe the service that load sddm is not enabled, I have the same problem
with lightdm on a minimal install, until I set ligthdm.service as enabled I
was able to have access to a graphical login.

Try to figure out if sddm has a service and try something like this, but
with sddm.service instead of lightdm.service .

su -c 'systemctl enable lightdm.service'
> Is this the usual settling-in behavior for fresh F24 upgrades?
>
> At least, once I have my desktop environment back, most applications

start and run as configured, and as usual.
> Temlakos
>
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[Joe Zeff]

On 06/25/2016 12:43 PM, Porfirio Andres Paiz Carrasco wrote:
> Try to figure out if sddm has a service and try something like this, but
> with sddm.service instead of lightdm.service .

systemctl list-unit-files | grep sddm.service

will tell you what you need.  HTH, HAND.

[Temlakos]

On 06/25/2016 03:49 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/25/2016 12:43 PM, Porfirio Andres Paiz Carrasco wrote:
> > Try to figure out if sddm has a service and try something like this, but
> > with sddm.service instead of lightdm.service .
>
> systemctl list-unit-files | grep sddm.service
> will tell you what you need.  HTH, HAND.
>
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Aha. I found it disabled.

Temlakos

[Rami Rosen]

Hi all,
First Andrew is right, you can do it as he suggested, essentially it
is the same.
To complete his suggestion, you can also check
with
systemctl get-default
whether X windows is enabled (will return graphical.target) or not
(multi-user.target)

Regards,
Rami Rosen

On 25 June 2016 at 22:43, Porfirio Andres Paiz Carrasco
 wrote:
> On Jun 25, 2016 1:23 PM, "Temlakos"  wrote:
> > On 06/25/2016 02:34 PM, Temlakos wrote:
> > > Everyone:
> > >
> > > Today I ran dnf system upgrade to go from F22 to F24. (Long story,
> > > including RPMFusion not getting their free and nonfree repos on-line until
> > > only the week just passed.)
> > >
> > > The problem: my system starts with a command line. Rebooting will not
> > > start my favorite desktop environment, which is KDE.
> > >
> > > How do I start it consistently in graphic mode?
> > >
> > > Temlakos
> >
> > Postscript:
> >
> > The sysctrld reports that the default target is graphical, and not
> > multi-user.
> >
> > The command "startx" does work. When I run "startx" after logging in, it
> > starts KDE as usual. But many things that were automatic, I have to specify
> > by keyboard or by mouse.
>
> Maybe the service that load sddm is not enabled, I have the same problem
> with lightdm on a minimal install, until I set ligthdm.service as enabled I
> was able to have access to a graphical login.
>
> Try to figure out if sddm has a service and try something like this, but
> with sddm.service instead of lightdm.service .
>
> su -c 'systemctl enable lightdm.service'
> > Is this the usual settling-in behavior for fresh F24 upgrades?
> >
> > At least, once I have my desktop environment back, most applications start
> > and run as configured, and as usual.
> >
> > Temlakos
> >
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[Garry Williams]

On Saturday, June 25, 2016 2:34:44 PM EDT Temlakos wrote:
> The problem: my system starts with a command line. Rebooting will
> not start my favorite desktop environment, which is KDE.

You may have run into the problem I had.  I kept using kdm instead of
allowing the sddm to take over.  Well, the upgrade left me without a
display manager.

Fix it with this from the command line:

sudo systemctl --force enable sddm.service
    sudo systemctl start sddm.service

HTH

[Temlakos]

On 06/25/2016 03:52 PM, Garry Williams wrote:
> On Saturday, June 25, 2016 2:34:44 PM EDT Temlakos wrote:
> > The problem: my system starts with a command line. Rebooting will
> > not start my favorite desktop environment, which is KDE.
>
> You may have run into the problem I had.  I kept using kdm instead of
> allowing the sddm to take over.  Well, the upgrade left me without a
> display manager.
>
> Fix it with this from the command line:
>  sudo systemctl --force enable sddm.service
>  sudo systemctl start sddm.service
>
> HTH

The first command seems to have restored the automatic graphical start.

Now I have one more problem. I was still using a very old program called 
"pwmanager" that has not seen an improvement since F12. I have most of 
its passwords migrated to LastPass, but not all of them, and certainly 
not the master password.

Temlakos

[Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco]

> On 06/25/2016 03:52 PM, Garry Williams wrote:
> The first command seems to have restored the automatic graphical start.
>
> Now I have one more problem. I was still using a very old program called 
> "pwmanager" that has not seen an improvement since F12. I have most of 
> its passwords migrated to LastPass, but not all of them, and certainly 
> not the master password.

So you forgot the master password?

I checked via dnf if the package is on the fedora repo but didn't appeared. I have the same problem managing passwords between two different version of the same password manager on two different fedora version. My advise is to have a plain tex file with all the password encrypted with gpg, just in case of, and making regular back up of it.

Polite as usual,
Porfirio.
> Temlakos

[Temlakos]

On 06/25/2016 09:19 PM, Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco wrote:
> > On 06/25/2016 03:52 PM, Garry Williams wrote:
> > The first command seems to have restored the automatic graphical start.
> >
> > Now I have one more problem. I was still using a very old program called
> > "pwmanager" that has not seen an improvement since F12. I have most of
> > its passwords migrated to LastPass, but not all of them, and certainly
> > not the master password.
>
> So you forgot the master password?
>
> I checked via dnf if the package is on the fedora repo but didn't appeared. I have the same problem managing passwords between two different version of the same password manager on two different fedora version. My advise is to have a plain tex file with all the password encrypted with gpg, just in case of, and making regular back up of it.
>
> Polite as usual,
> Porfirio.
> > Temlakos
>
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This master password has nothing to do with Fedora. It has to do with a 
plug-in, available for Firefox or Chrome, called LastPass. LastPass 
stores all my passwords, but one--the password for LastPass itself. 
Actually I have it set to remember that password--but it won't show it 
to me. I stored it on PwManager. Which I can't access any longer.

I'd like to get this old PwManager program running again. But 
something's wrong with the program "wmsystemtray" that I'd been using to 
make it appear.

I might be able to run that program on a new user account--and get all 
those passwords off that program so I never have to use it again.

A shame, too. An off-line password manager still seems a good idea. But 
no one bothered to maintain PwManager after F11 or F12.

Temlakos