Firefox 34 just went to the F20 stable updates. The bookmark sidebar scrolling behavior has changed and I can't find any reference to it, though I probably just don't know what to search for. You used to be able to middle-click on the scrollbar to move it to an arbitrary position, or left-click on it to move it up/down one page at a time. Now left-click moves the scrollbar to an arbitrary position (same as the old middle-click), and middle-click does nothing. Is there some way in FF34 to scroll up and down the bookmark sidebar one page at a time?
Andre Robatino <robatino <at> fedoraproject.org> writes:
Firefox 34 just went to the F20 stable updates. The bookmark sidebar scrolling behavior has changed and I can't find any reference to it, though I probably just don't know what to search for. You used to be able to middle-click on the scrollbar to move it to an arbitrary position, or left-click on it to move it up/down one page at a time. Now left-click moves the scrollbar to an arbitrary position (same as the old middle-click), and middle-click does nothing. Is there some way in FF34 to scroll up and down the bookmark sidebar one page at a time?
I just noticed that web page scrolling now works the same way, and worked the old way in FF33. So it's all scrolling, not just bookmarks. I also found that with the PageUp and PageDown buttons I can make it scroll one page at a time. Sorry for the noise.
On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 08:21 +0000, Andre Robatino wrote:
Firefox 34 just went to the F20 stable updates. The bookmark sidebar scrolling behavior has changed and I can't find any reference to it, though I probably just don't know what to search for. You used to be able to middle-click on the scrollbar to move it to an arbitrary position, or left-click on it to move it up/down one page at a time. Now left-click moves the scrollbar to an arbitrary position (same as the old middle-click), and middle-click does nothing. Is there some way in FF34 to scroll up and down the bookmark sidebar one page at a time?
I noticed the same thing with Evolution, long ago, that I can't simply page up and down by clicking above or below the scroll bar, any more. It jumps to what's essentially a random spot, since you have no way to actually pick a specific part of the message list that you want to see. You're pretty screwed if you don't have a mouse wheel and you want to page through things.
However, Firefox is still working the good way. And I never knew about middle clicking in the scroll bar area, before.
Using Mate on Fedora 20, here.
Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
I noticed the same thing with Evolution, long ago, that I can't simply page up and down by clicking above or below the scroll bar, any more. It jumps to what's essentially a random spot, since you have no way to actually pick a specific part of the message list that you want to see. You're pretty screwed if you don't have a mouse wheel and you want to page through things.
It's due to a change in GTK+3. Maybe Firefox has inherited this. I preferred the old behaviour.
To get the old behaviour back edit ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and add this:
[Settings] gtk-primary-button-warps-slider = 0
Ron
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 08:21:47AM +0000, Andre Robatino wrote:
middle-click on the scrollbar to move it to an arbitrary position, or left-click on it to move it up/down one page at a time. Now left-click moves the scrollbar to an arbitrary position (same as the old middle-click), and middle-click does nothing. Is there some way in FF34 to scroll up and down the bookmark sidebar one page at a time?
_Right_ click should do it now, I think. It's a GTK 3 thing. I guess it makes sense as people move more to two-finger scrolling with touchpads, but personally I put it back with the setting mentioned elsewhere in the thread.
On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 10:37:42AM +0000, Ron Yorston wrote:
Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
I noticed the same thing with Evolution, long ago, that I can't simply page up and down by clicking above or below the scroll bar, any more. It jumps to what's essentially a random spot, since you have no way to actually pick a specific part of the message list that you want to see. You're pretty screwed if you don't have a mouse wheel and you want to page through things.
It's due to a change in GTK+3. Maybe Firefox has inherited this. I preferred the old behaviour.
To get the old behaviour back edit ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and add this:
[Settings] gtk-primary-button-warps-slider = 0
Ron
That's one of the things (only one!) I can't stand about Gnome-3.x, that behavior seems really stupid! given that behavior there's no way to "page down" or "up" thru a file using the scrollbar. if it's a loooong file, dragging the slider even a tiny bit moves you many "miles".
I'm glad to know there is a way to "fix" it, even though I avoid Gnome-3 whenever possible. Thanks!
Matthew Miller <mattdm <at> fedoraproject.org> writes:
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 08:21:47AM +0000, Andre Robatino wrote:
middle-click on the scrollbar to move it to an arbitrary position, or left-click on it to move it up/down one page at a time. Now left-click moves the scrollbar to an arbitrary position (same as the old middle-click), and middle-click does nothing. Is there some way in FF34 to scroll up and down the bookmark sidebar one page at a time?
_Right_ click should do it now, I think. It's a GTK 3 thing. I guess it makes sense as people move more to two-finger scrolling with touchpads, but personally I put it back with the setting mentioned elsewhere in the thread.
Yes, that works (though it feels a little weird). It's easier for me to get used to it than to remember how to change the setting, so I'll adjust. Thanks!
On 14-12-05 05:37:42, Ron Yorston wrote:
Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
I noticed the same thing with Evolution, long ago, that I can't simply page up and down by clicking above or below the scroll bar, any more. It jumps to what's essentially a random spot, since you have no way to actually pick a specific part of the message list that you want to see. You're pretty screwed if you don't have a mouse wheel and you want to page through things.
It's due to a change in GTK+3. Maybe Firefox has inherited this. I preferred the old behaviour.
To get the old behaviour back edit ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and add this:
[Settings] gtk-primary-button-warps-slider = 0
Thank you. Do you know of any settings for other Gnome3 changes I might wish to undo?
On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 10:37:42AM +0000, Ron Yorston wrote:
Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
I noticed the same thing with Evolution, long ago, that I can't simply page up and down by clicking above or below the scroll bar, any more. It jumps to what's essentially a random spot, since you have no way to actually pick a specific part of the message list that you want to see. You're pretty screwed if you don't have a mouse wheel and you want to page through things.
It's due to a change in GTK+3. Maybe Firefox has inherited this. I preferred the old behaviour.
To get the old behaviour back edit ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and add this:
[Settings] gtk-primary-button-warps-slider = 0
I've just done a Centos-7 install on one of my netbooks, and then I installed the Mate desktop so I wouldn't have to fume and curse Gnome. Mate is much more friendly. but I noticed that some few programs even in Mate still use the silly "new" scrollbar behavior, and adding that entry (in fact, creating the file 'cause it wasn't there) doesn't help.
Would you have any other suggestions for dealing with that?
thanks a bunch!
Tony Nelson wrote:
Thank you. Do you know of any settings for other Gnome3 changes I might wish to undo?
Well, I don't know what *you* might want to undo, but here's the script I run after installing F20. Some of the settings can be modified in gnome-tweak-tool but I find it more convenient to gather them all into one place.
Ron
gsettings set org.gnome.shell.overrides edge-tiling false gsettings set org.gnome.shell.overrides dynamic-workspaces false gsettings set org.gnome.shell.overrides attach-modal-dialogs false gsettings set org.gnome.shell always-show-log-out true gsettings set org.gnome.shell.overrides button-layout ":minimize,maximize,close"
gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.updates auto-download-updates false gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.updates active false
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences mouse-button-modifier "'<Alt>'" gsettings set org.gnome.mutter auto-maximize false
gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides "{'Gtk/ShellShowsAppMenu': <0>}"
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface clock-show-date true gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences focus-mode "sloppy"
Fred Smith wrote:
I've just done a Centos-7 install on one of my netbooks, and then I installed the Mate desktop so I wouldn't have to fume and curse Gnome. Mate is much more friendly. but I noticed that some few programs even in Mate still use the silly "new" scrollbar behavior, and adding that entry (in fact, creating the file 'cause it wasn't there) doesn't help.
I've had a quick look at Mate in F20 but didn't spot anything with the new scrollbar behaviour. Can you point to any examples?
Ron
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