Canon Elura 100 Camcorder and FC5

[Robert L Cochran]

I gave my wife a Canon Elura 100 camcorder for Christmas. I just watched 
her download her very first movie to Windows XP. Can I do the same in 
Fedora Core 5?  If I just plugged in the camcorder to my onboard 1394 
port, will an application come up recognizing the camcorder and offering 
to download the movie from the DV tape?

Thanks

Bob

[Kurt Wall]

On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 02:16:37PM -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I gave my wife a Canon Elura 100 camcorder for Christmas. I just watched 
> her download her very first movie to Windows XP. Can I do the same in 
> Fedora Core 5?  If I just plugged in the camcorder to my onboard 1394 
> port, will an application come up recognizing the camcorder and offering 
> to download the movie from the DV tape?

I don't know about DV, but my miniDV-based camcorder worked like a charm
on FC6. I did "yum install kino", "modprobe raw1394", started kino, and
everything worked.

Kurt

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 01 January 2007 14:16, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I gave my wife a Canon Elura 100 camcorder for Christmas. I just watched
> her download her very first movie to Windows XP. Can I do the same in
> Fedora Core 5?  If I just plugged in the camcorder to my onboard 1394
> port, will an application come up recognizing the camcorder and offering
> to download the movie from the DV tape?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob

I don't think its quite as automatic, but then I haven't investigated to 
see if it could be done, possibly someplace in kde's file association 
maybe?

But to do that install the latest kino-0.9.4 I believe it is and its 
dependencies, from either livna or ATrpms.  I've found it stable here, 
controlling a Sony TVR-460.

[Tim]

On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 17:07 -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:
> I don't know about DV, but my miniDV-based camcorder worked like a
> charm on FC6. I did "yum install kino", "modprobe raw1394", started
> kino, and everything worked.

I'm curious whether the opposite works, as well:  Playing DV/MiniDV out
of the computer back into the camera.

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 02 January 2007 14:51, Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 17:07 -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:
> > I don't know about DV, but my miniDV-based camcorder worked like a
> > charm on FC6. I did "yum install kino", "modprobe raw1394", started
> > kino, and everything worked.
>
> I'm curious whether the opposite works, as well:  Playing DV/MiniDV out
> of the computer back into the camera.

That may be a little more problematic, depending on the camera.  I have a 
Sony TRV-460, and it is truly by-directional over the firewire cable.

I've heard there are cameras who aren't that happy about that over on the 
kino list, so the usual YMMV caveats apply.
> --
> (Currently testing FC5, but still running FC4, if that's important.)
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
> I read messages from the public lists.

[Robert L Cochran]

Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 01 January 2007 14:16, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> > I gave my wife a Canon Elura 100 camcorder for Christmas. I just watched
> > her download her very first movie to Windows XP. Can I do the same in
> > Fedora Core 5?  If I just plugged in the camcorder to my onboard 1394
> > port, will an application come up recognizing the camcorder and offering
> > to download the movie from the DV tape?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bob
>
> I don't think its quite as automatic, but then I haven't investigated to 
> see if it could be done, possibly someplace in kde's file association 
> maybe?
>
> But to do that install the latest kino-0.9.4 I believe it is and its 
> dependencies, from either livna or ATrpms.  I've found it stable here, 
> controlling a Sony TVR-460.

Thanks.

I installed kino 0.9.3 on my AMD x86_64 system, ran 'modprobe raw1394' 
and started kino. It failed with the following error message:

[root@bobcp4 ~]# kino
kino: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/libavcodec.so.51: undefined 
symbol: faacDecOpen

Can you tell me what to do to fix it?

Here is what yum installed for me as dependencies on kino:

[taken from /var/log/messages]

Jan 3 19:54:29 bobcp4 yum: Installed: libmp4v2.x86_64 1.4.1-3.lvn5
Jan 3 19:54:29 bobcp4 yum: Installed: faac.x86_64 1.24-5.lvn5
Jan 3 19:54:30 bobcp4 yum: Installed: a52dec.x86_64 0.7.4-9.lvn5
Jan 3 19:54:30 bobcp4 yum: Installed: gsm.x86_64 1.0.10-10.lvn5
Jan 3 19:54:32 bobcp4 yum: Installed: imlib2.x86_64 1.3.0-6.fc5.at
Jan 3 19:54:33 bobcp4 yum: Installed: libsndfile.x86_64 1.0.15-1.fc5
Jan 3 19:54:34 bobcp4 yum: Installed: libsamplerate.x86_64 0.1.2-5.fc5
Jan 3 19:54:35 bobcp4 yum: Installed: lame.x86_64 3.97-14.fc5.at
Jan 3 19:54:36 bobcp4 yum: Installed: faad2.x86_64 2.5-7.fc5.at
Jan 3 19:54:36 bobcp4 yum: Installed: libiec61883.x86_64 1.1.0-1.fc5
Jan 3 19:54:37 bobcp4 yum: Installed: xvidcore.x86_64 1.1.0-2.lvn5
Jan 3 19:54:38 bobcp4 yum: Installed: ffmpeg.x86_64 0.4.9-0.23.20060817.lvn5
Jan 3 19:54:41 bobcp4 yum: Installed: kino.x86_64 0.9.3-1.lvn5

[issued 'modprobe raw1394' at this point]

Jan 3 19:55:10 bobcp4 kernel: ieee1394: raw1394: /dev/raw1394 device 
initialized

Thanks

Bob Cochran

[Chris Mohler]

> [root@bobcp4 ~]# kino
> kino: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/libavcodec.so.51: undefined
> symbol: faacDecOpen
>
> Can you tell me what to do to fix it?

I had something very similar happen with mplayer recently - it was
caused by mixing livna and freshrpms repos.
IIRC, I did 'rpm -ev faad2' and 'yum --disablerepo=freshrpms install faad2'
Or maybe I removed faad2 with yum instead of rpm - I don't remember.

YMMV
Chris

PS - there's at least one recent thread about this - that's how I
found the solution...

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 04 January 2007 02:28, Chris Mohler wrote:
> > [root@bobcp4 ~]# kino
> > kino: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/libavcodec.so.51: undefined
> > symbol: faacDecOpen
> >
> > Can you tell me what to do to fix it?
>
> I had something very similar happen with mplayer recently - it was
> caused by mixing livna and freshrpms repos.
> IIRC, I did 'rpm -ev faad2' and 'yum --disablerepo=freshrpms install faad2'
> Or maybe I removed faad2 with yum instead of rpm - I don't remember.
>
> YMMV
> Chris
>
> PS - there's at least one recent thread about this - that's how I
> found the solution...

You may be thinking of my thread, where I was told that the problem was with a 
broken ffmpeg.  Installing the faad2 from freshrpms was the recommendation.

Anne

Downloading Movies From Cameras In Fedora 7 (Was: Canon Elura 100 Camcorder and FC5)

[Robert L Cochran]

Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I gave my wife a Canon Elura 100 camcorder for Christmas. I just 
> watched her download her very first movie to Windows XP. Can I do the 
> same in Fedora Core 5?  If I just plugged in the camcorder to my 
> onboard 1394 port, will an application come up recognizing the 
> camcorder and offering to download the movie from the DV tape?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob

Can anyone offer me updated advice for doing the above under Fedora 7? I 
connected my Elura 100 camcorder to my Fedora 7 system over a 1394 
cable, and nothing happened. Can Totem do this by itself? Or do I still 
need additional software? Which repos should I get the software from?

Thanks

Bob

Downloading Movies From Cameras In Fedora 7 (Was: Canon Elura 100 Camcorder and FC5)

[Sean Bruno]

On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 23:28 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> Robert L Cochran wrote:
> > I gave my wife a Canon Elura 100 camcorder for Christmas. I just 
> > watched her download her very first movie to Windows XP. Can I do the 
> > same in Fedora Core 5?  If I just plugged in the camcorder to my 
> > onboard 1394 port, will an application come up recognizing the 
> > camcorder and offering to download the movie from the DV tape?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bob
>
> Can anyone offer me updated advice for doing the above under Fedora 7? I 
> connected my Elura 100 camcorder to my Fedora 7 system over a 1394 
> cable, and nothing happened. Can Totem do this by itself? Or do I still 
> need additional software? Which repos should I get the software from?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob

It looks like your camera is a canon and it supports PTP.  So you
_should_ be able to use 'gphoto2' to get the movies out of your
camcorder:

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=OSCompatibilityArchiveAct&a...

Something like 'gphoto2 -L' should work with your camera.  This should
give you a list of what's on your camera.  'gphoto2 -P' should pull all
the files on your camcorder onto your computer.

According to gphoto2 --list-cameras, your model 100 isn't supported yet,
however you may be able to 'trick' it into working with some of the
'expert options':
  --port=FILENAME                 Specify port device
  --speed=SPEED                   Specify serial transfer speed
  --camera=MODEL                  Specify camera model
  --usbid=USBIDs                  (expert only) Override USB IDs

If it doesn't work out of the box for you with gphoto2, but does work
with some of the expert options, contact me off list and we can get it
directly integrated into gphoto2.

Sean

Downloading Movies From Cameras In Fedora 7 (Was: Canon Elura 100 Camcorder and FC5)

[Robert L Cochran]

Sean Bruno wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 23:28 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> > Robert L Cochran wrote:
> > > I gave my wife a Canon Elura 100 camcorder for Christmas. I just 
> > > watched her download her very first movie to Windows XP. Can I do the 
> > > same in Fedora Core 5?  If I just plugged in the camcorder to my 
> > > onboard 1394 port, will an application come up recognizing the 
> > > camcorder and offering to download the movie from the DV tape?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Bob
> >
> > Can anyone offer me updated advice for doing the above under Fedora 7? I 
> > connected my Elura 100 camcorder to my Fedora 7 system over a 1394 
> > cable, and nothing happened. Can Totem do this by itself? Or do I still 
> > need additional software? Which repos should I get the software from?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bob
>
> It looks like your camera is a canon and it supports PTP.  So you
> _should_ be able to use 'gphoto2' to get the movies out of your
> camcorder:
>
> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=OSCompatibilityArchiveAct&a...
>
> Something like 'gphoto2 -L' should work with your camera.  This should
> give you a list of what's on your camera.  'gphoto2 -P' should pull all
> the files on your camcorder onto your computer.
>
> According to gphoto2 --list-cameras, your model 100 isn't supported yet,
> however you may be able to 'trick' it into working with some of the
> 'expert options':
>   --port=FILENAME                 Specify port device
>   --speed=SPEED                   Specify serial transfer speed
>   --camera=MODEL                  Specify camera model
>   --usbid=USBIDs                  (expert only) Override USB IDs
>
> If it doesn't work out of the box for you with gphoto2, but does work
> with some of the expert options, contact me off list and we can get it
> directly integrated into gphoto2.
>
> Sean

Hi Sean,

Thanks for the tips. According to my owner's manual for the Elura 100, 
PTP works only for still images (JPEG only). I have a whole movie. Is 
there a way to pull the movie off the tape media in the Elura?

Thanks

Bob

Downloading Movies From Cameras In Fedora 7 (Was: Canon Elura 100 Camcorder and FC5)

[Sean Bruno]

On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 01:02 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> Sean Bruno wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 23:28 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
> > > Robert L Cochran wrote:
> > > > I gave my wife a Canon Elura 100 camcorder for Christmas. I just 
> > > > watched her download her very first movie to Windows XP. Can I do the 
> > > > same in Fedora Core 5?  If I just plugged in the camcorder to my 
> > > > onboard 1394 port, will an application come up recognizing the 
> > > > camcorder and offering to download the movie from the DV tape?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > >
> > > Can anyone offer me updated advice for doing the above under Fedora 7? I 
> > > connected my Elura 100 camcorder to my Fedora 7 system over a 1394 
> > > cable, and nothing happened. Can Totem do this by itself? Or do I still 
> > > need additional software? Which repos should I get the software from?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Bob
> >
> > It looks like your camera is a canon and it supports PTP.  So you
> > _should_ be able to use 'gphoto2' to get the movies out of your
> > camcorder:
> >
> > http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=OSCompatibilityArchiveAct&a...
> >
> > Something like 'gphoto2 -L' should work with your camera.  This should
> > give you a list of what's on your camera.  'gphoto2 -P' should pull all
> > the files on your camcorder onto your computer.
> >
> > According to gphoto2 --list-cameras, your model 100 isn't supported yet,
> > however you may be able to 'trick' it into working with some of the
> > 'expert options':
> >   --port=FILENAME                 Specify port device
> >   --speed=SPEED                   Specify serial transfer speed
> >   --camera=MODEL                  Specify camera model
> >   --usbid=USBIDs                  (expert only) Override USB IDs
> >
> > If it doesn't work out of the box for you with gphoto2, but does work
> > with some of the expert options, contact me off list and we can get it
> > directly integrated into gphoto2.
> >
> > Sean
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> Thanks for the tips. According to my owner's manual for the Elura 100, 
> PTP works only for still images (JPEG only). I have a whole movie. Is 
> there a way to pull the movie off the tape media in the Elura?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob

Hmmm...PTP supports movies, but oh well.

When you plugin the camcorder, nothing 'pops' up on the Desktop?  That's
odd.

Can you plugin your camcorder, fire off a terminal and run dmesg?
Copy/paste that terminal output and fire an email back to the list.

Maybe some other folks will see something obvious.

Sean

Downloading Movies From Cameras In Fedora 7 (Was: Canon Elura 100 Camcorder and FC5)

[Claude Jones]

On Wed September 5 2007, Sean Bruno wrote:
> Hmmm...PTP supports movies, but oh well.
>
> When you plugin the camcorder, nothing 'pops' up on the Desktop?  That's
> odd.
>
> Can you plugin your camcorder, fire off a terminal and run dmesg?
> Copy/paste that terminal output and fire an email back to the list.
>
> Maybe some other folks will see something obvious.
>
> Sean

Kino? Don't know the Eleura, does it have a firewire out? I plug my old Sony 
VX1000 DV camera in and capture regularly with Kino