-----Original Message----- From: ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:19 PM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com Subject: Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?
On 2020-04-15 07:10, Tim via users wrote:
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros in the world then?
My advice is pick one that has useful user support. Something you can access and understand.
And there is always the "Fly before you Buy" Live USB sticks
Moreover, don't be lured, or lulled by reviews. If you have the time, try it, try them all. What might be good for you might not be acceptable for others. And you might have specific requirements.
I know an governmental organization, that considered it wise to buy official support by Canonical. They hardly put an official case to them, but when they did, allthey noticed that lierarly their issues were only forwarded to the corresponding upstream maintainers, without even botherin to see if they could reproduce it.
Some prefer distro "A", others "B", But if one has much "higher rankings", but all of your staff is used to and familiar with "B", the other might end up better for your organization or company.
If possible, evaluate all, and re-evaluate every three-four years. Distro's and their corresponding companies (and communities) are living entities...
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On 2020-04-16 04:40, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:19 PM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com Subject: Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?
On 2020-04-15 07:10, Tim via users wrote:
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros in the world then?
My advice is pick one that has useful user support. Something you can access and understand.
And there is always the "Fly before you Buy" Live USB sticks
Moreover, don't be lured, or lulled by reviews. If you have the time, try it, try them all. What might be good for you might not be acceptable for others. And you might have specific requirements.
I know an governmental organization, that considered it wise to buy official support by Canonical. They hardly put an official case to them, but when they did, allthey noticed that lierarly their issues were only forwarded to the corresponding upstream maintainers, without even botherin to see if they could reproduce it.
Some prefer distro "A", others "B", But if one has much "higher rankings", but all of your staff is used to and familiar with "B", the other might end up better for your organization or company.
If possible, evaluate all, and re-evaluate every three-four years. Distro's and their corresponding companies (and communities) are living entities...
I don't think most people have the time to evaluate all the few hundred Linux distros in the world.
Turritopsis,
Why are all the replies you send not threading?
P.
On 2020-04-16 22:39, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
On 2020-04-16 04:40, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:19 PM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com Subject: Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?
On 2020-04-15 07:10, Tim via users wrote:
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros in the world then?
My advice is pick one that has useful user support. Something you can access and understand.
And there is always the "Fly before you Buy" Live USB sticks
Moreover, don't be lured, or lulled by reviews. If you have the time, try it, try them all. What might be good for you might not be acceptable for others. And you might have specific requirements.
I know an governmental organization, that considered it wise to buy official support by Canonical. They hardly put an official case to them, but when they did, allthey noticed that lierarly their issues were only forwarded to the corresponding upstream maintainers, without even botherin to see if they could reproduce it.
Some prefer distro "A", others "B", But if one has much "higher rankings", but all of your staff is used to and familiar with "B", the other might end up better for your organization or company.
If possible, evaluate all, and re-evaluate every three-four years. Distro's and their corresponding companies (and communities) are living entities...
I don't think most people have the time to evaluate all the few hundred Linux distros in the world.
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I have no idea. Maybe somebody changed the subject.
On 2020-04-16 20:43, Philip Rhoades wrote:
Turritopsis,
Why are all the replies you send not threading?
P.
On 2020-04-16 22:39, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
On 2020-04-16 04:40, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:19 PM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com Subject: Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?
On 2020-04-15 07:10, Tim via users wrote:
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros in the world then?
My advice is pick one that has useful user support. Something you can access and understand.
And there is always the "Fly before you Buy" Live USB sticks
Moreover, don't be lured, or lulled by reviews. If you have the time, try it, try them all. What might be good for you might not be acceptable for others. And you might have specific requirements.
I know an governmental organization, that considered it wise to buy official support by Canonical. They hardly put an official case to them, but when they did, allthey noticed that lierarly their issues were only forwarded to the corresponding upstream maintainers, without even botherin to see if they could reproduce it.
Some prefer distro "A", others "B", But if one has much "higher rankings", but all of your staff is used to and familiar with "B", the other might end up better for your organization or company.
If possible, evaluate all, and re-evaluate every three-four years. Distro's and their corresponding companies (and communities) are living entities...
I don't think most people have the time to evaluate all the few hundred Linux distros in the world.
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
Why are all the replies you send not threading?
They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.
poc
On 2020-04-16 21:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
Why are all the replies you send not threading?
They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.
Threading fine in T-Bird as well.
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 21:56 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-04-16 21:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
Why are all the replies you send not threading?
They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.
Threading fine in T-Bird as well.
---------------------------------------------------------- That is one thing I don't like about Evolution is that you can't thread one folder you have to thread every folder and I don't want that. I just want to thread the Evolution group folder and the Fedora convosations folder. ugh! And I use exchange and this is the only client that can do exchange without having to go out and buy an extention to get Exchange to work.. I could use IMAP in TB but... eh....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks, Chris Chris@CWM030.com
Fedora 31 Workstation With XFCE as my preferred desktop ( installed on top of gnome 3)
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 14:30 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
That is one thing I don't like about Evolution is that you can't thread one folder you have to thread every folder and I don't want that.
You can toggle threading with Ctrl-T.
poc
On 2020-04-17 03:30, Christopher Marlow wrote:
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 21:56 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-04-16 21:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
Why are all the replies you send not threading?
They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.
Threading fine in T-Bird as well.
That is one thing I don't like about Evolution is that you can't thread one folder you have to thread every folder and I don't want that. I just want to thread the Evolution group folder and the Fedora convosations folder. ugh! And I use exchange and this is the only client that can do exchange without having to go out and buy an extention to get Exchange to work.. I could use IMAP in TB but... eh....
Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going to setup Evolution!
By the way, Thunderbird doesn't work with Exchange and O365 properly?
Thanks, Chris Chris@CWM030.com Fedora 31 Workstation With XFCE as my preferred desktop ( installed on top of gnome 3)
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Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017), in Taiwan (5 Aug 2019) and Australia (25 Dec 2019 to 9 Jan 2020):
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On 4/16/20 8:20 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going to setup Evolution!
That's what I use at work where we have Exchange.
By the way, Thunderbird doesn't work with Exchange and O365 properly?
I just realized that I set my wife up with Thunderbird for an Outlook (Office 365) account that she needed to access. I'll have to try it again at work with Exchange.
On 2020-04-17 12:30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 4/16/20 8:20 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going to setup Evolution!
That's what I use at work where we have Exchange.
By the way, Thunderbird doesn't work with Exchange and O365 properly?
I just realized that I set my wife up with Thunderbird for an Outlook (Office 365) account that she needed to access. I'll have to try it again at work with Exchange.
As far as Exchange goes, unless the server supports IMAP or POP I've been told you'd need to add an extension such as Exquilla or Owl.
This to be taken with a grain of salt since I'm not an MS user.
On 4/16/20 9:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-04-17 12:30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 4/16/20 8:20 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going to setup Evolution!
That's what I use at work where we have Exchange.
By the way, Thunderbird doesn't work with Exchange and O365 properly?
I just realized that I set my wife up with Thunderbird for an Outlook (Office 365) account that she needed to access. I'll have to try it again at work with Exchange.
As far as Exchange goes, unless the server supports IMAP or POP I've been told you'd need to add an extension such as Exquilla or Owl.
You're right. I checked her configuration and outlook.com allows IMAP. Oh well, Evolution does work pretty well.
On Fri, 2020-04-17 at 11:20 +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going to setup Evolution!
Yes.
Note that Evolution has its own mailing list, so if you have questions it's usually more effective to ask there rather than here.
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
poc
On 2020-04-17 16:54, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Note that Evolution has its own mailing list, so if you have questions it's usually more effective to ask there rather than here.
Ever get the feeling that this thread has spawned too many tangents?
On Fri, 2020-04-17 at 17:03 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-04-17 16:54, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Note that Evolution has its own mailing list, so if you have questions it's usually more effective to ask there rather than here.
Ever get the feeling that this thread has spawned too many tangents?
Constantly. Not helped by some people not bothering to trim their quotes, but that's yet another tangent ...
poc
On 2020-04-17 16:54, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2020-04-17 at 11:20 +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going to setup Evolution!
Yes.
Note that Evolution has its own mailing list, so if you have questions it's usually more effective to ask there rather than here.
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
poc
I have extreme difficulties getting evolution-ews to work with Office 365 for Business.
I am asking questions at the evolution mailing list now.
Thank you.
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The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
[The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of U.S. Embassy Workers
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Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017), in Taiwan (5 Aug 2019) and Australia (25 Dec 2019 to 9 Jan 2020):
[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
[3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
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On Fri, 2020-04-17 at 11:20 +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going
to setup Evolution!
By the way, Thunderbird doesn't work with Exchange and O365 properly?
Yes Evolution can do Exchange, Thunderbird can't without buying a extention to get it to work.
On 2020-04-18 00:26, Christopher Marlow wrote:
On Fri, 2020-04-17 at 11:20 +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going
to setup Evolution!
By the way, Thunderbird doesn't work with Exchange and O365 properly?
Yes Evolution can do Exchange, Thunderbird can't without buying a extention to get it to work.
I can't get Evolution to work with Office 365. Sob.
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The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
[The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of U.S. Embassy Workers
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
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Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017), in Taiwan (5 Aug 2019) and Australia (25 Dec 2019 to 9 Jan 2020):
[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
[3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
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On 2020-04-16 21:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
Why are all the replies you send not threading?
They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.
poc
I think Roundcube webmail is not so good.
Turritopsis,
On 2020-04-17 13:01, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
On 2020-04-16 21:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
Why are all the replies you send not threading?
They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.
I think Roundcube webmail is not so good.
Generally I really like RCM - this is the first time I have seen something like this with RCM - usually when I see this happening it is because the user is replying with a "new" mail to a thread . .
P.
Patrick,
On 2020-04-16 23:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
Why are all the replies you send not threading?
They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.
Yes, that is interesting - everyone else's mails are threading just fine . . hmm . .
Thanks!
P.
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 09:40, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming < ceo@teo-en-ming.com> wrote:
On 2020-04-16 04:40, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote:
[...]
If possible, evaluate all, and re-evaluate every three-four years. Distro's and their corresponding companies (and communities) are living entities...
I don't think most people have the time to evaluate all the few hundred Linux distros in the world.
Many people are part of a community doing similar work, so will hear about a few distros that are used within the community. The user community of a distro shapes what gets packaged. If you leave the distros popular with your community you may find some packages aren't readily available.
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