not receiving anything from users at lists.fedoraproject.

[William Mattison]

Good morning,

For several days now, I have not received anything from [e-mail].  I sent a message to "owner", but received no response.  How do I get this fixed?

Please reply to me as well as the list.  I will also check the archives later today for answers.

thanks,
Bill.

[Reindl Harald]

Am 02.05.2013 16:58, schrieb William Mattison:
> Good morning,
>
> For several days now, I have not received anything from [e-mail].  I sent a message to "owner", but received no response.  How do I get this fixed?
>
> Please reply to me as well as the list.  I will also check the archives later today for answers

check your list-settings

this was disccused multiple times and seems to be caused
by a intrusion at yahoo resulting in all sort of problems
for yahoo-addresses

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/08/yahoo_webmail_hijack_flare_on/

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, 02 May 2013 17:05:22 +0200
Reindl Harald  wrote:
> Am 02.05.2013 16:58, schrieb William Mattison:
> > Good morning,
> >
> > For several days now, I have not received anything from
> > [e-mail].  I sent a message to "owner", but
> > received no response.  How do I get this fixed?
> >
> > Please reply to me as well as the list.  I will also check the
> > archives later today for answers
>
> check your list-settings
>
> this was disccused multiple times and seems to be caused
> by a intrusion at yahoo resulting in all sort of problems
> for yahoo-addresses
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/08/yahoo_webmail_hijack_flare_on/

It's actually much more likely that it's caused by yahoo blacklisting
the entire lists.fedoraproject.org domain based on feedback from very
few users. They have done this a number of times in the past and will
continue to do so.

I would stongly advise you to switch to a better email provider.

http://mmcgrath.livejournal.com/37248.html

kevin

[Tom Horsley]

On Thu, 2 May 2013 11:50:20 -0600
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> I would stongly advise you to switch to a better email provider.

Something besides yahoo is going on. I use gmail, and the past
few days I've seen things show up on the list archive hours before
a copy actually arrives in my mailbox (but I haven't noticed
things disappearing completely).

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, 2 May 2013 14:04:49 -0400
Tom Horsley  wrote:
> On Thu, 2 May 2013 11:50:20 -0600
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > I would stongly advise you to switch to a better email provider.
>
> Something besides yahoo is going on. I use gmail, and the past
> few days I've seen things show up on the list archive hours before
> a copy actually arrives in my mailbox (but I haven't noticed
> things disappearing completely).

This was another issue. ;)

Our old lists.fedoraproject.org server was slow and underpowered. 
This is why there was an outage yesterday as we moved to a new and
vastly overpowered instance. ;)

Posts and archives should be pretty much instant now, if you see an
issue please file a infrastructure ticket and we can look.

Thanks,

kevin

[Tom Horsley]

On Thu, 2 May 2013 12:20:58 -0600
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Posts and archives should be pretty much instant now, if you see an
> issue please file a infrastructure ticket and we can look.

And this thread actually was pretty much instant. I guess the
delay is gone :-).

[poma]

On 02.05.2013 20:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> This was another issue. ;)
>
> Our old lists.fedoraproject.org server was slow and underpowered. 
> This is why there was an outage yesterday as we moved to a new and
> vastly overpowered instance. ;)
>
> Posts and archives should be pretty much instant now, if you see an
> issue please file a infrastructure ticket and we can look.

Is there a test group on those mail servers, at all?

poma

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, 02 May 2013 21:51:53 +0200
poma  wrote:
> On 02.05.2013 20:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > This was another issue. ;)
> >
> > Our old lists.fedoraproject.org server was slow and underpowered. 
> > This is why there was an outage yesterday as we moved to a new and
> > vastly overpowered instance. ;)
> >
> > Posts and archives should be pretty much instant now, if you see an
> > issue please file a infrastructure ticket and we can look.
>
> Is there a test group on those mail servers, at all?

We don't currently have one no, we could setup one I suppose, but not
sure there's enough use to justify it. What would you use it for? just
to see if posts go through?

kevin

[poma]

On 02.05.2013 22:41, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 02 May 2013 21:51:53 +0200
> poma  wrote:
> > On 02.05.2013 20:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > This was another issue. ;)
> > >
> > > Our old lists.fedoraproject.org server was slow and underpowered. 
> > > This is why there was an outage yesterday as we moved to a new and
> > > vastly overpowered instance. ;)
> > >
> > > Posts and archives should be pretty much instant now, if you see an
> > > issue please file a infrastructure ticket and we can look.
> >
> > Is there a test group on those mail servers, at all?
>
> We don't currently have one no, we could setup one I suppose, but not
> sure there's enough use to justify it. What would you use it for? just
> to see if posts go through?

Regardless of how it can be called, it'd be useful not only for testing
throughput, but also for practicing mailing list fine arts - and of
course, also for offtopicing. ;)

e.g. [e-mail]

poma

[Tim]

On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 23:51 +0200, poma wrote:
> Regardless of how it can be called, it'd be useful not only for
> testing throughput, but also for practicing mailing list fine arts -
> and of course, also for offtopicing. ;)
>
> e.g. [e-mail]

It can be beneficial to have a social list where those who already know
each other can have their off-topic chats without disrupting those who
just want to deal with Fedora issues.  It's worked well on two other
mailing lists that I've been with, before.  Quite often, the off-topics
are not one-to-one, but involve a group.

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Fri, 03 May 2013 19:02:41 +0930
Tim  wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 23:51 +0200, poma wrote:
> > Regardless of how it can be called, it'd be useful not only for
> > testing throughput, but also for practicing mailing list fine arts -
> > and of course, also for offtopicing. ;)
> >
> > e.g. [e-mail]
>
> It can be beneficial to have a social list where those who already
> know each other can have their off-topic chats without disrupting
> those who just want to deal with Fedora issues.  It's worked well on
> two other mailing lists that I've been with, before.  Quite often,
> the off-topics are not one-to-one, but involve a group.

It's been suggested before, but never happened. ;)

I would suggest a social/offtopic list will still need some rules, and
should be seperate from a test post list.

kevin

not receiving anything from users at lists.fedoraproject. [SOLVED]

[William Mattison]

I checked my settings.  I was mis-understanding what one of them meant.  Now I know: "Mail delivery" set to "Disabled" also turns off reception of digests, too.  I fixed it; I've since received a digest.

By the way, I still receive unwanted messages from "[e-mail]", though a lot less today.  It was really bad a few days ago.  Could Yahoo e-mail subscribers' responses to all those "nobody" messages be what caused Yahoo to bounce messages - based on "fedoraproject.org".

Bill.

----- Original Message -----
> From: William Mattison 
> To: "[e-mail]" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 10:58 AM
> Subject: not receiving anything from users at lists.fedoraproject.
>
> G ood morning,
>
> For several days now, I have not received anything from 
> [e-mail].  I sent a message to "owner", but 
> received no response.  How do I get this fixed?
>
> Please reply to me as well as the list.  I will also check the archives later 
> today for answers.
>
> thanks,
> Bill.

not receiving anything from users at lists.fedoraproject. [SOLVED]

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, 2 May 2013 11:50:47 -0700 (PDT)
William Mattison  wrote:
> I checked my settings.  I was mis-understanding what one of them
> meant.  Now I know: "Mail delivery" set to "Disabled" also turns off
> reception of digests, too.  I fixed it; I've since received a digest.
>
> By the way, I still receive unwanted messages from
> "[e-mail]", though a lot less today.  It was really
> bad a few days ago.  Could Yahoo e-mail subscribers' responses to all
> those "nobody" messages be what caused Yahoo to bounce messages -
> based on "fedoraproject.org".

Can you forward me such a email with complete headers intact off list?

[e-mail] goes to /dev/null. It shouldn't be sending
anything.
> Bill.

kevin