lxd on Fedora for virtual machine

[Robert McBroom]

I see discussions of container tech with lxd and docker on ubuntu. dnf 
will install docker. Anyone have experience with a windows virtual 
machine with these systems?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2023-01-31 at 00:00 -0500, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
>  I see discussions of container tech with lxd and docker on ubuntu.
>  dnf 
>  will install docker. Anyone have experience with a windows virtual 
>  machine with these systems? 
If you mean running a Windows VM with a container as the hypervisor,
AFAIK that's not possible. A container is much lighter than a full VM
environment and won't in general allow emulation of a completely
different OS, which is one reason they are popular.

po

[Robert McBroom]

On 1/31/23 06:06, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  On Tue, 2023-01-31 at 00:00 -0500, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
> > I see discussions of container tech with lxd and docker on ubuntu.
> > dnf
> > will install docker. Anyone have experience with a windows virtual
> > machine with these systems?
>  If you mean running a Windows VM with a container as the hypervisor,
>  AFAIK that's not possible. A container is much lighter than a full VM
>  environment and won't in general allow emulation of a completely
>  different OS, which is one reason they are popular. 
There is a tutorial for ubuntu,

https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-install-a-windows-11-vm-using-lxd#1-o...

[Peter Boy]

>  Am 01.02.2023 um 06:01 schrieb Robert McBroom via users
> <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  
>  On 1/31/23 06:06, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2023-01-31 at 00:00 -0500, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
> >> I see discussions of container tech with lxd and docker on ubuntu.
> >> dnf
> >> will install docker. Anyone have experience with a windows virtual
> >> machine with these systems?
> > If you mean running a Windows VM with a container as the hypervisor,
> > AFAIK that's not possible. A container is much lighter than a full VM
> > environment and won't in general allow emulation of a completely
> > different OS, which is one reason they are popular.
>  
>  There is a tutorial for ubuntu,
>  
>  https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-install-a-windows-11-vm-using-lxd#1-o... 
LXD started once as a (new) management tool for LXC container (mostly system containers in
contrast to Docker). Later (I think with version 4) they expanded to manage VMs as well.
So, you might be able to manage a virtual Windows instance with LXD, but you don’t use
container technology. 

Fedora doesn’t include a LXD RPM. There is a RPM in COPR [1], which is maintained by one
person, who is very active (at least in the past, I actually don’t use it anymore). And
you can install it via another packaging tool, snap. So LXD on Fedora might not be such a
superior user experience. 



[1] https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/ganto/lxc4/


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[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2023-02-01 at 09:23 +0100, Peter Boy wrote:
>  LXD started once as a (new) management tool for LXC container
> (mostly
>  system containers in contrast to Docker). Later (I think with version
>  4) they expanded to manage VMs as well. So, you might be able to
>  manage a virtual Windows instance with LXD, but you don’t use
>  container technology.  
Just for completeness:

$ dnf info lxc
[...]
Summary      : Linux Resource Containers
URL          : https://linuxcontainers.org/lxc
License      : LGPLv2+ and GPLv2
Description  : Linux Resource Containers provide process and resource isolation without
the
             : overhead of full virtualization.

(I realise that lxd is not the same thing).

poc

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2023-02-01 at 00:01 -0500, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
>  On 1/31/23 06:06, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  > On Tue, 2023-01-31 at 00:00 -0500, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
>  > > I see discussions of container tech with lxd and docker on
>  > > ubuntu.
>  > > dnf
>  > > will install docker. Anyone have experience with a windows
>  > > virtual
>  > > machine with these systems?
>  > If you mean running a Windows VM with a container as the
>  > hypervisor,
>  > AFAIK that's not possible. A container is much lighter than a full
>  > VM
>  > environment and won't in general allow emulation of a completely
>  > different OS, which is one reason they are popular.
>  
>  There is a tutorial for ubuntu,
>  
>  https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-install-a-windows-11-vm-using-lxd#1-o... 
Interesting. I'd say that's going beyond what would normally be
considered a container. I suspect they may be leveraging KVM or some
other hypervisor under the hood, but I don't know enough about it to be
sure.

poc