Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide.
On 25 Mar 2006 09:42:47 +0000, Colin Paul Adams colin@colina.demon.co.uk wrote:
Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide.
Um, you will need a CD drive at present; I dont believe that Fedora makes a USB bootable image yet.
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"Chasecreek" == Chasecreek Systemhouse chasecreek.systemhouse@gmail.com writes:
Chasecreek> On 25 Mar 2006 09:42:47 +0000, Colin Paul Adams Chasecreek> colin@colina.demon.co.uk wrote: >> Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso >> images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide.
Chasecreek> Um, you will need a CD drive at present; I dont Chasecreek> believe that Fedora makes a USB bootable image yet.
Not so.
But I am not talking about a USB boot - I mean a floppy boot.
I did this for FC4, under instruction from Paul Howarth, I think.
But I have forgotten the procedure, and, annoyingly, it's not in the installation manual.
Download all the cd isos or better : the dvd iso ! I imagine you have the dvd iso :
installing on another pc : mount -o loop dvd.iso /tmp/fc5 (you have to create the fc5 directory in tmp) then run install with "linux askmethod" at the boot , without the quote, and choose ftp or nfs , and enjoy :) (ftp if you have a ftp server)
installing on the same pc : put the dvd.iso on a partition you want, and verify the partition : is it hda3 or hdc5 or ...... Then then run install with "linux askmethod" at the boot , without the quote, and choose harddrive and choose /dev/hdc5 if it is the partition where the iso is enjoy :)
Larry "Computers are like air conditioners - They stop working properly when you open Windows !"
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide.
Just booting off the rescue cd, and then at prompt type "linux expert" (or "linux askmethod"). If you dont want to download and burn the cd, you can copy the boot.iso image, which is in http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/5/i386//os/images/ on a usb storage (dd if=boot.iso of=/dev/sda1 # if your usb stick is mounted on sda1) Or even use the floppy boot disk image ..... okay ?
Larry "Computers are like air conditioners - They stop working properly when you open Windows !"
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
"Larry" == LarryT guess.who@freesurf.fr writes:
Larry> ...... Then then run install with "linux askmethod" at theHow?
"LarryT" == LarryT guess.who@freesurf.fr writes:
LarryT> Just booting off the rescue cd, and then at prompt type
Read the subject title - no CD drive.
LarryT> on a usb storage (dd if=boot.iso of=/dev/sda1 # if your
No usb stick either.
LarryT> usb stick is mounted on sda1) Or even use the floppy boot LarryT> disk image
Where is this?
Larry "Computers are like air conditioners - They stop working properly when you open Windows !"
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
"LarryT" == LarryT guess.who@freesurf.fr writes:
LarryT> Just booting off the rescue cd, and then at prompt typeRead the subject
title - no CD drive.
LarryT> on a usb storage (dd if=boot.iso of=/dev/sda1 # if yourNo usb stick either.
LarryT> usb stick is mounted on sda1) Or even use the floppy boot LarryT> disk imageWhere is this?
Do you wann be kind enough to read what i wrote ?
##############################################################################
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/5/i386//os/images/
#############################################################################"
Or even use the floppy boot disk image ..... okay ?
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 16:19 +0100, LarryT wrote:
LarryT> usb stick is mounted on sda1) Or even use the floppy boot LarryT> disk imageWhere is this?
Do you wann be kind enough to read what i wrote ?
##############################################################################
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/5/i386//os/images/
#############################################################################"
I must be feeling a bit dumb today. Which of those is the "floppy boot disk image"?
Paul.
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 16:39:39 +0000, Paul Howarth paul@city-fan.org wrote:
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 16:19 +0100, LarryT wrote:
LarryT> usb stick is mounted on sda1) Or even use the floppy boot LarryT> disk imageWhere is this?
Do you wann be kind enough to read what i wrote ?
##############################################################################
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/5/i386//os/images/
#############################################################################"
I must be feeling a bit dumb today. Which of those is the "floppy boot disk image"?
diskboot.image I saw some documentation somewhere that said it was a FAT file system.
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 10:46 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 16:39:39 +0000, Paul Howarth paul@city-fan.org wrote:
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 16:19 +0100, LarryT wrote:
LarryT> usb stick is mounted on sda1) Or even use the floppy boot LarryT> disk imageWhere is this?
Do you wann be kind enough to read what i wrote ?
##############################################################################
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/5/i386//os/images/
#############################################################################"
I must be feeling a bit dumb today. Which of those is the "floppy boot disk image"?
diskboot.image I saw some documentation somewhere that said it was a FAT file system.
It is, but it's for a USB Key. Being 8MB, it's far too big to go on a floppy.
Paul.
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 10:46 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 16:39:39 +0000, Paul Howarth paul@city-fan.org wrote:
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 16:19 +0100, LarryT wrote:
LarryT> usb stick is mounted on sda1) Or even use the floppy boot LarryT> disk imageWhere is this?
Do you wann be kind enough to read what i wrote ?
##############################################################################
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/5/i386//os/images/
#############################################################################"
I must be feeling a bit dumb today. Which of those is the "floppy boot disk image"?
diskboot.image I saw some documentation somewhere that said it was a FAT file system.
Please explain how an 8mb file can fit on a 1.44mb floppy?
Hi Jeff,
I don't think from Fedora Core 4 there is an option to install from diskettes. Do you have an USB stick or another machine running you can use to boot from on your network?
Cheers, JM
-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Vian Sent: 26 March 2006 12:08 To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Re: Installing without a CD drive
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 10:46 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 16:39:39 +0000, Paul Howarth paul@city-fan.org wrote:
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 16:19 +0100, LarryT wrote:
LarryT> usb stick is mounted on sda1) Or even use the floppy
boot
LarryT> disk imageWhere is this?
Do you wann be kind enough to read what i wrote ?
############################################################################ ##
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/5/i386//os/images/
############################################################################ #"
I must be feeling a bit dumb today. Which of those is the "floppy boot disk image"?
diskboot.image I saw some documentation somewhere that said it was a FAT file system.
Please explain how an 8mb file can fit on a 1.44mb floppy?
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 12:40 +0100, Joao Medeiros wrote:
Hi Jeff,
I don't think from Fedora Core 4 there is an option to install from diskettes. Do you have an USB stick or another machine running you can use to boot from on your network?
If you read the last few messages in this thread, my comment below was a _very_ tongue-in-cheek way of saying I did not believe he meant it was a boot floppy image, even though that is what he had stated.
I was not the one saying the image was a boot floppy nor was I indicating that I thought he was correct. I was expressing disbelief.
A following message indicated that the image is actually a USB key image for booting, which is as I had understood it.
Jeff
Cheers, JM
-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Vian Sent: 26 March 2006 12:08 To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Re: Installing without a CD drive
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 10:46 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 16:39:39 +0000, Paul Howarth paul@city-fan.org wrote:
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 16:19 +0100, LarryT wrote:
LarryT> usb stick is mounted on sda1) Or even use the floppyboot
LarryT> disk imageWhere is this?
Do you wann be kind enough to read what i wrote ?
############################################################################ ##
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/5/i386//os/images/
############################################################################ #"
I must be feeling a bit dumb today. Which of those is the "floppy boot disk image"?
diskboot.image I saw some documentation somewhere that said it was a FAT file system.
Please explain how an 8mb file can fit on a 1.44mb floppy?
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You're wrong Paul ! I am feeling most dumb, but it lasts for few days :-D I'd better have a rest .
Excuse-me Paul :-/ ... BTW i thank you for this point ! i 'll try to be more careful
Larry "Computers are like air conditioners - They stop working properly when you open Windows !"
Paul Howarth wrote:
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 16:19 +0100, LarryT wrote:
LarryT> usb stick is mounted on sda1) Or even use the floppy boot LarryT> disk image
Where is this?
Do you wann be kind enough to read what i wrote ?
##############################################################################
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/5/i386//os/images/
#############################################################################"
I must be feeling a bit dumb today. Which of those is the "floppy boot disk image"?
Paul.
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 09:42 +0000, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide. --
Googling gets this. http://www.bhamu.net/index.php/2005/06/15/fedora-core-4-floppy-disk-install ---gary
"Gary" == gary garys@mtaonline.net writes:
Gary> On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 09:42 +0000, Colin Paul Adams wrote: >> Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso >> images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide. --
Gary> Googling gets this. Gary> http://www.bhamu.net/index.php/2005/06/15/fedora-core-4-floppy-disk-install
This seems far too complicated.
The way i did it before (I had a broken hard disk to repair too, that time, which made it more interesting), was to boot a floppy, and then select the drives to use.
But I don't remember the commands involved.
I actually did a no CD/DVD/Floppy/USB stick upgrade. Mounted the DVD image as previously discussed, then copied over the boot image to /boot and edited my grub.conf file to point to that image. (In addition to the normal one.) I was having trouble getting my old instance detected and ended up trying three differeny boot images. I think they all were usable in the end, as the problem seemed to be related to which partition of a mirror I said the DVD iso was on. The install went much slower than when I installed from the DVD (on another faster, but not 7 times faster machine). I think this is because I was updateing the disk that was supplying the update data. If I had been thinking more clearly when I did that, I would have stuck the iso on the unmirrored drive I was using for /tmp and things would have probably gone a lot faster.
I wanted to practice this on a machine I have easy access to, since I will be doing something similar to a machine that I don't have easy access to and for which the CD drive isn't normally powered because of a power supply limitation.
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 09:42 +0000, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide.
Is this a working system with the ISO images on the hard drive?
Are you doing a fresh install or an upgrade?
Can the ISO images be put on a separate partition not needed during the install?
Paul.
"Paul" == Paul Howarth paul@city-fan.org writes:
Paul> On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 09:42 +0000, Colin Paul Adams wrote: >> Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso >> images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide.
Paul> Is this a working system with the ISO images on the hard Paul> drive?
That will be the case.
Paul> Are you doing a fresh install or an upgrade?
Upgrade.
Paul> Can the ISO images be put on a separate partition not needed Paul> during the install?
I should think I can do that.
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide.
Do you already have Linux installed? If so, you can do a hard disk installation without even creating a boot floppy.
The main thing that you will need is a spare partition to hold the ISO images. This partition (obviously) needs to be formatted with a file- system that the Fedora kernel can read; ext2/3 and FAT32 will certainly work.
Assuming that you've got such a partition, and you've moved the ISO files to it, the next step is to extract the installation kernel and initrd from the first ISO and copy them to your /boot directory.
* mount -o ro,loop ISO_FILE MOUNT_POINT * mkdir /boot/fc5inst * cp MOUNT_POINT/isolinux/{vmlinuz,initrd.img} /boot/fc5inst/ * umount MOUNT_POINT
Now edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and create a new entry called "INSTALL Fedora Core 5". It should be relatively straightforward to figure out the root device and the path to the kernel and initrd. (If it isn't, you may want to use the boot floppy image that's located somewhere in the first ISO.) The only kernel parameters required are hardware- specific stuff.
Now you can reboot your system and select a hard drive installation. Point the installer to the partition and directory in which you've placed the ISO images and proceed as normal. You will get a pop-up warning when the installer searches for existing installations; it will try to mount the partition which contains the ISO images and complain when the mount fails (because it's already mounted).
Hope this helps.
"Ian" == Ian Pilcher i.pilcher@comcast.net writes:
Ian> Colin Paul Adams wrote: >> Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso >> images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide.
Ian> Do you already have Linux installed? If so, you can do a Ian> hard disk installation without even creating a boot floppy.
Ian> The main thing that you will need is a spare partition to Ian> hold the ISO images. This partition (obviously) needs to be Ian> formatted with a file- system that the Fedora kernel can Ian> read; ext2/3 and FAT32 will certainly work.
Ian> Assuming that you've got such a partition, and you've moved Ian> the ISO files to it, the next step is to extract the Ian> installation kernel and initrd from the first ISO and copy Ian> them to your /boot directory.
Ian> * mount -o ro,loop ISO_FILE MOUNT_POINT * mkdir Ian> /boot/fc5inst * cp MOUNT_POINT/isolinux/{vmlinuz,initrd.img} Ian> /boot/fc5inst/ * umount MOUNT_POINT
Ian> Now edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and create a new entry called Ian> "INSTALL Fedora Core 5". It should be relatively Ian> straightforward to figure out the root device and the path to Ian> the kernel and initrd. (If it isn't, you may want to use the Ian> boot floppy image that's located somewhere in the first ISO.) Ian> The only kernel parameters required are hardware- specific Ian> stuff.
Ian> Now you can reboot your system and select a hard drive Ian> installation. Point the installer to the partition and Ian> directory in which you've placed the ISO images and proceed Ian> as normal. You will get a pop-up warning when the installer Ian> searches for existing installations; it will try to mount the Ian> partition which contains the ISO images and complain when the Ian> mount fails (because it's already mounted).
Ian> Hope this helps.
Yes, thank you. That was exactly the procedure I needed reminding of.
It would be good if it was in the installation manual for FC6, as I will need to do it again next time.
"Ian" == Ian Pilcher i.pilcher@comcast.net writes:
Ian> Colin Paul Adams wrote: >> Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso >> images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide.
Ian> Do you already have Linux installed? If so, you can do a Ian> hard disk installation without even creating a boot floppy.
Ian> The main thing that you will need is a spare partition to Ian> hold the ISO images. This partition (obviously) needs to be Ian> formatted with a file- system that the Fedora kernel can Ian> read; ext2/3 and FAT32 will certainly work.
Ian> Assuming that you've got such a partition, and you've moved Ian> the ISO files to it, the next step is to extract the Ian> installation kernel and initrd from the first ISO and copy Ian> them to your /boot directory.
Ian> * mount -o ro,loop ISO_FILE MOUNT_POINT * mkdir Ian> /boot/fc5inst * cp MOUNT_POINT/isolinux/{vmlinuz,initrd.img} Ian> /boot/fc5inst/ * umount MOUNT_POINT
Ian> Now edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and create a new entry called Ian> "INSTALL Fedora Core 5". It should be relatively Ian> straightforward to figure out the root device and the path to Ian> the kernel and initrd. (If it isn't, you may want to use the Ian> boot floppy image that's located somewhere in the first ISO.) Ian> The only kernel parameters required are hardware- specific Ian> stuff.
Ian> Now you can reboot your system and select a hard drive Ian> installation. Point the installer to the partition and Ian> directory in which you've placed the ISO images and proceed Ian> as normal. You will get a pop-up warning when the installer Ian> searches for existing installations; it will try to mount the Ian> partition which contains the ISO images and complain when the Ian> mount fails (because it's already mounted).
Ian> Hope this helps.
Well, it works up to a point, but then there doesn't appear to be an upgrade option.
How do I do an upgrade?
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
"Ian" == Ian Pilcher i.pilcher@comcast.net writes:
Ian> Colin Paul Adams wrote: >> Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso >> images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide. Ian> Do you already have Linux installed? If so, you can do a Ian> hard disk installation without even creating a boot floppy. Ian> The main thing that you will need is a spare partition to Ian> hold the ISO images. This partition (obviously) needs to be Ian> formatted with a file- system that the Fedora kernel can Ian> read; ext2/3 and FAT32 will certainly work. Ian> Assuming that you've got such a partition, and you've moved Ian> the ISO files to it, the next step is to extract the Ian> installation kernel and initrd from the first ISO and copy Ian> them to your /boot directory. Ian> * mount -o ro,loop ISO_FILE MOUNT_POINT * mkdir Ian> /boot/fc5inst * cp MOUNT_POINT/isolinux/{vmlinuz,initrd.img} Ian> /boot/fc5inst/ * umount MOUNT_POINT Ian> Now edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and create a new entry called Ian> "INSTALL Fedora Core 5". It should be relatively Ian> straightforward to figure out the root device and the path to Ian> the kernel and initrd. (If it isn't, you may want to use the Ian> boot floppy image that's located somewhere in the first ISO.) Ian> The only kernel parameters required are hardware- specific Ian> stuff. Ian> Now you can reboot your system and select a hard drive Ian> installation. Point the installer to the partition and Ian> directory in which you've placed the ISO images and proceed Ian> as normal. You will get a pop-up warning when the installer Ian> searches for existing installations; it will try to mount the Ian> partition which contains the ISO images and complain when the Ian> mount fails (because it's already mounted). Ian> Hope this helps.Well, it works up to a point, but then there doesn't appear to be an upgrade option.
How do I do an upgrade?
You should automatically get an upgrade option if the installer finds your existign installation (I think it looks for /etc/fedora-release). If you're not getting the option, there's probably a problem seeing your existing partitions. Do you need any specific drivers for your existing setup? What is the partitioning arrangement?
Paul.
On 25 Mar 2006 09:42:47 +0000, Colin Paul Adams colin@colina.demon.co.uk wrote:
Could someone list the procedure to do this (I have the iso images on disc)? It's not in the Installation guide.
For a CD-Less installation U need these as a minimum 1. iso files on your hard disk / usb disc / usb stick 2. a *nix live CD / or as a tomsrtbt http://www.toms.net/rb/ on a single floppy. 3. Even if U have hdd that is blank or has guidos+free_partiton_space, U can get FC5 operational
rest of the details available in this thread.
-- Anil Kumar Shrama
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 20:29:43 +0530 "Anil Kumar Sharma" xplusaks@gmail.com wrote:
:For a CD-Less installation U need these as a minimum :1. iso files on your hard disk / usb disc / usb stick
Because I do not have a broadband connection, I do not have iso files, but have acquired the CDs. How can I build isos from the CDs, so that I can do network installations on my other machines?
-- Chuck
On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 15:01 -0800, Charles A. Crayne wrote:
Because I do not have a broadband connection, I do not have iso files, but have acquired the CDs. How can I build isos from the CDs, so that I can do network installations on my other machines?
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
NB: if = input file (specify your CD/DVD-ROM device) of = output file (specify the filename you want to use)
You could also copy the directory tree structure of each disc into one big tree, and do network installs that way. I get quite quick results using my webserver for network installs.