Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Hi,

Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?

Here are some important factors to consider:

1. Personal/non-commercial use.
2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have
super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated
from the National University of Singapore in 2007.
3. Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that is,
it will not suddenly close down the next day.

Please advise.

Thank you.

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[Walter H.]

On 15.02.2019 06:35, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?

you got already the answer that its unrealistic with your nealy zero budget

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:40 PM Walter H.  wrote:
> On 15.02.2019 06:35, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
>
> you got already the answer that its unrealistic with your nealy zero budget

Hi Walter H,

How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
USD$50 per year.

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[Nora Hochwimmer]

that's still only around $8 USD per month, and you'd be lucky to find
5TB of storage for that price, let alone 50TB.

On 15/02/19 4:46 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:40 PM Walter H.  wrote:
> > On 15.02.2019 06:35, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
> >
> > you got already the answer that its unrealistic with your nealy zero budget
>
> Hi Walter H,
>
> How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> USD$50 per year.
>
> Thank you.
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[Walter H.]

On 15.02.2019 09:46, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:40 PM Walter H.  wrote:
> > On 15.02.2019 06:35, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
> >
> > you got already the answer that its unrealistic with your nealy zero budget
>
> Hi Walter H,
>
> How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> USD$50 per year.
>
> Thank you.

not even for US$ 500
we are talking about 50 TB = 50 000 GB

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:59 PM Walter H.  wrote:
> On 15.02.2019 09:46, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:40 PM Walter H.  wrote:
> > > On 15.02.2019 06:35, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
> > >
> > > you got already the answer that its unrealistic with your nealy zero budget
> >
> > Hi Walter H,
> >
> > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > USD$50 per year.
> >
> > Thank you.
>
> not even for US$ 500
> we are talking about 50 TB = 50 000 GB

Sigh...

I am sorely disappointed.
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[Andy Blanchard]

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:
> How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> USD$50 per year.

I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.

Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
as expected.  No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
time to time - if the data matters, DIY.

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard  wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>  wrote:
> > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > USD$50 per year.
>
> I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
> will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
> BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
> this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
> you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
> array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
> that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
>
> Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
> to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
> a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
> tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
> as expected.
> No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
> business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
> backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
> time to time - if the data matters, DIY.

Hi Andy,

Noted above statement with thanks.
> --
> Andy
>
> The only person to have all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe
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[Andy Blanchard]

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 09:04, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:
> Sigh...
>
> I am sorely disappointed.

You shouldn't be.  An enterpise level RAID-able 8TB HDD costs perhaps
$200 with large volume discount, so allowing for some redundancy and
hardware failures your chosen provider will need to provide somewhere
between $2,000 and $3,000 of drives, plus the NAS chassis space, just
for you.  There may be some additional savings if they're assuming
data de-duplication with other clients, but that's unquantifiable at
this point. To be a viable business they need to recover the costs of
all that, plus operating costs (rack space, power & cooling), plus
some profit over the lifetime of the drives - say 5 years.  Just
thinking it through says there's no way you're doing this in the cloud
for less than $1,000/year with any kind of cloud HDD-based approach.

[Eddie O'Connor]

I think DIY is the best route. While some corporations are willing to risk
having their data exposed (FB/Cambridge Analytical et al. ) and others can
pay the financial price for having their data seen by others, it always
boils down to what you want to deal with more (or less)....the amount of
times you'll have to explain how some cloud provider screwed up?....or the
reliance on your own backups...on your own schedule..and secured through
means which fall a little more under your control.
Just sayin'...

EGO II

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 4:11 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <
[e-mail] wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard  wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> >  wrote:
> > > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > > USD$50 per year.
> >
> > I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
> > will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
> > BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
> > this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
> > you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
> > array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
> > that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
> >
> > Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
> > to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
> > a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
> > tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
> > as expected.
> > No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
> > business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
> > backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
> > time to time - if the data matters, DIY.
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Noted above statement with thanks.
> > --
> > Andy
> >
> > The only person to have all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe
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[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Noted with thanks.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 7:18 PM Eddie O'Connor  wrote:
> I think DIY is the best route. While some corporations are willing to risk having their data exposed (FB/Cambridge Analytical et al. ) and others can pay the financial price for having their data seen by others, it always boils down to what you want to deal with more (or less)....the amount of times you'll have to explain how some cloud provider screwed up?....or the reliance on your own backups...on your own schedule..and secured through means which fall a little more under your control.
> Just sayin'...
>
> EGO II
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 4:11 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <[e-mail] wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard  wrote:
> > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> > >  wrote:
> > > > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > > > USD$50 per year.
> > >
> > > I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
> > > will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
> > > BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
> > > this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
> > > you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
> > > array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
> > > that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
> > >
> > > Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
> > > to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
> > > a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
> > > tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
> > > as expected.
> > > No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
> > > business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
> > > backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
> > > time to time - if the data matters, DIY.
> >
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > Noted above statement with thanks.
> > > --
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > The only person to have all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
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> >
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> >
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> >
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[mr.cheng]

> super low levels of income for the past 12 years since   graduated from the National University of Singapore in 2007.

Might be Off-Topic but  Since you mentioned, but still quite unbelievable to me;   because I also studied in Singapore in similar years,  the NUS is really the top-level school in Asia, can also say good ranking world widely;    can't believe NUS graduate unemployed 12 years?    Did you research hard to get better job decent income ?  rather than researching a low budget storage solution

[Dave Stevens]

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 15:26:12 +0000 (UTC)
"mr.cheng via users"  wrote:
> Did you research hard to get better job decent income ?  rather than
> researching a low budget storage solution

not exactly a fedora issue...

d

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 11:26 -0800, Dave Stevens wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 15:26:12 +0000 (UTC)
> "mr.cheng via users"  wrote:
> > Did you research hard to get better job decent income ?  rather than
> > researching a low budget storage solution
>
> not exactly a fedora issue...

+1

poc

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 15 February 2019, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En
Ming sent:
> Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that
>
> is, it will not suddenly close down the next day.

You can't rely on the permanent existence of ANY external service.  At
any time they might decide to change their business model.  That could
be anything from an unacceptable change in their terms of service, to
complete removal of a service.  Companies get bought out, change their
strategies, and go out of business, all the time.

Personally, I find the thought of cloud-based anything even more
problematic than anything.  The idea that you can just scoot programs
across some computing boundary like pushing a chair across the room
doesn't seem a trustworthy concept.  A few years ago, my webhost tried
cost-cutting by moving their service onto a cloud, and it failed
dismally.  With a cloud, you have a thing, inside a thing, inside a
thing (reminds me of early programming where some people turned their
software into far too many subroutines), and it can get bogged down
with other client's heavy use of the system.