Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane? Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
Canon Pixma G6000 series
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 19:49 Sam Varshavchik mrsam@courier-mta.com wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane? Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:49:32 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane? Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
I've got a CanoScan LiDE 300 which surprised me by working with xsane out of the box (I was prepared to pass through the USB to a Windows virtual machine if I had to). It is a stand alone flatbed scanner, no other features.
(I accidentally sent this as a direct reply first.)
On 3/18/24 17:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
I don't use xsane, but my Brother multi-function color laser scans with the Gnome scanning app with no problems. It depends on what you mean by "out of the box". I did install a driver at one point and I assume that's still being used.
On Mon, 2024-03-18 at 20:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane? Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
Brother DCP-L2539DW all-in-one wireless scanner/printer. Brother do have binary drivers for this, but I don't use them.
poc
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 8:49 PM Sam Varshavchik mrsam@courier-mta.com wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane?
Canon LIDE 400 over USB. "Just works."
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 8:49 PM Sam Varshavchik mrsam@courier-mta.com wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane? Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
I use an HP ScanJet Pro 4500 FN1 network scanner and a Color LaserJet M252DW network printer. The ScanJet Pro also works with Skanlite.
The HP's replaced an old EPSON 633 WorkForce (and old HP B/W LaserJet). I was not buying another all-in-one, where I could not use the scanner because I did not have OEM ink in the printer.
Jeff
On 3/18/24 19:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
I use an HP Color LaserJet MFP M281fdw [1], and it works *okay*. I set up scan to email and scan to shared folder, so it definitely does what I need as regards scanning and printing.
But I will never buy another HP again. They screw you on the ink, and they are apparently using DRM so you can't use third party ink. Screw that. Never again.
[1] https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/setup-user-guides/hp-color-laserjet-pro...
HP M148
On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:00 AM Thomas Cameron < thomas.cameron@camerontech.com> wrote:
On 3/18/24 19:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
I use an HP Color LaserJet MFP M281fdw [1], and it works *okay*. I set up scan to email and scan to shared folder, so it definitely does what I need as regards scanning and printing.
But I will never buy another HP again. They screw you on the ink, and they are apparently using DRM so you can't use third party ink. Screw that. Never again.
[1]
https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/setup-user-guides/hp-color-laserjet-pro...
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On Tue, 2024-03-19 at 09:00 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
But I will never buy another HP again. They screw you on the ink, and they are apparently using DRM so you can't use third party ink. Screw that. Never again.
It's a shame we can't override such shenanigans with custom drivers. That and things like scanner/printer combos wasting all your ink when you scan to file without any printing. It's also annoying that it wastes several minutes of your time doing that crap before it'll let you scan something. I don't want to ever buy a combo unit again.
During the plague shutdowns there was some supply issues, so codes were released for people to enter to override non-chipped ink tanks on some models. So there are ways to override that crap.
Just sell your ink at reasonable prices and we'll buy the genuine stuff instead of the crap cheapies.
On Wed, 2024-03-20 at 14:17 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Tue, 2024-03-19 at 09:00 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
But I will never buy another HP again. They screw you on the ink, and they are apparently using DRM so you can't use third party ink. Screw that. Never again.
It's a shame we can't override such shenanigans with custom drivers. That and things like scanner/printer combos wasting all your ink when you scan to file without any printing. It's also annoying that it wastes several minutes of your time doing that crap before it'll let you scan something. I don't want to ever buy a combo unit again.
My Brother all-in-one units (I've had two) have never done that. Also, I can get third-party toner cartridges for very reasonable prices.
poc
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
My Brother all-in-one units (I've had two) have never done that. Also, I can get third-party toner cartridges for very reasonable prices.
Did you get that unit after crossing your fingers, and hoping that it works, or did you verify compatibility somehow. I tried reconciling what's on the market now versus xsane's hardware compatibility list without much luck.
I ended up ordering an HP all in one, MFP 232, because hplip's hardware compatibility list claimed that model is fully supported, including scanning.
So it arrived. I used hplip to set it up, printing works fine. Pushing the "scan" button in hplip guided me through downloading the driver, then it launched xsane.
xsane sees the scanner. But the preview button hangs, then eventually comes back with a "Faied to star scanner: error during device I/O".
Based on my Google searches:
# scanimage -L device `airscan:e1:HP LaserJet MFP M234dw (CB1249)' is a eSCL HP LaserJet MFP M234dw (CB1249) ip=192.168.0.19 device `hpaio:/net/HP_LaserJet_MFP_M232-M237?ip=192.168.0.19' is a Hewlett- Packard HP_LaserJet_MFP_M232-M237 all-in-one device `hpaio:/net/laserjet_mfp_m232-m237?ip=192.168.0.19&queue=false' is a Hewlett-Packard laserjet_mfp_m232-m237 all-in-one [root@monster ~]# airscan-discover [devices] HP LaserJet MFP M234dw (CB1249) = http://192.168.0.19:8080/eSCL/, eSCL HP LaserJet MFP M234dw (CB1249) = https://192.168.0.19:443/eSCL/, eSCL HP LaserJet MFP M234dw (CB1249) = http://192.168.0.19:53048/, WSD HP LaserJet MFP M234dw (CB1249) = http://%5Bfe80::d2ad:8ff:fecb:1249%254%5D:53048/, WSD
It's not showing up in airscan-discover.
I have it connected via ethernet, I'm suspecting that scanning only works via a direct connection. Digging further…
On Thu, 2024-03-21 at 08:58 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
My Brother all-in-one units (I've had two) have never done that. Also, I can get third-party toner cartridges for very reasonable prices.
Did you get that unit after crossing your fingers, and hoping that it works, or did you verify compatibility somehow. I tried reconciling what's on the market now versus xsane's hardware compatibility list without much luck.
No, I didn't check. I had an earlier Brother unit for years before it finally gave up the ghost and I got an updated one (didn't even notice it does double-sided printing until it worked :-). Any modern scanner should support DNS-SD via Avahi on Linux. Even more so because Microsoft has announced that they will no longer ship manufacturer device drivers for printers and scanners, so the market is being pushed into standardising. I don't know if some special use-cases might require a device-specific driver, but I don't personally care.
As regards toner compatibility, Amazon has a number of brands that work. I tend to get special offers of 2 at a time.
poc
On Thu, 2024-03-21 at 08:58 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
[root@monster ~]# airscan-discover [devices] HP LaserJet MFP M234dw (CB1249) = http://192.168.0.19:8080/eSCL/, eSCL HP LaserJet MFP M234dw (CB1249) = https://192.168.0.19:443/eSCL/, eSCL HP LaserJet MFP M234dw (CB1249) = http://192.168.0.19:53048/, WSD HP LaserJet MFP M234dw (CB1249) = http://%5Bfe80::d2ad:8ff:fecb:1249%254%5D:53048/, WSD
It's not showing up in airscan-discover.
Try 'sudo avahi-browse -a -t'
poc
I've been following this, but as I'm not currently using my scanner with Fedora, I didn't pipe up. I, personally, am thoroughly satisfied with Fujitsu scanners. My current one is a venerable SP-1425. Not cheap, but "do one thing and do it well" certainly applies.
But with the talk of using HP AiOs, I had to pipe up. I have advised all my clients to no longer buy HP printers of any type, including the AiOs, and will personally never buy another HP printer until and unless they back off their current policies and practices.
This first bit me at a client who purchased an HP AiO last year. It insisted on tying itself to an HP account. I managed to get it to work without doing so--and in a week, it stopped printing. Support insisted it had to be connected to HP, and the client told me to do so. After it connected, it updated the firmware without warning or requesting permission--and immediately stopped printing because the toner in use was a from a third-party vendor. They scrapped the printer and got a Brother. (Note this was before HP actually admitted to what they were doing.)
But now they have. Take a look at:
https://www.wired.com/story/hp-all-in-plan-printer-subscription-service/
Sincerely, -- Dave Ihnat dihnat@dminet.com
OS: Fedora 39 MFP: HP M477 - Got Simple-scan working over network Web Interface is clunky, Printer console interface is too. Software is mostly the typical Windows-Centric, though the HPLIP package seems pretty tidy: https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/gethplip Firmware updates -may- interfere with third party inks. Time setting at one point required a full system reset - needed for Fax Date time -due to lack of Time service. Paper transport for Automatic Doc Feeder has been very solid. Ink has been reliable after long offlne periods.
John Westerdale
Dave Ihnat writes:
But with the talk of using HP AiOs, I had to pipe up. I have advised all my clients to no longer buy HP printers of any type, including the AiOs, and will personally never buy another HP printer until and unless they back off their current policies and practices.
I believe that the policies and practices described here are for HP's inkjets.
Their reputation definitely precedes them.
HP's laser printers had a little bit bit rep. I've had much better luck, historically, with HP's laser printers than with other brands. The one I'm currently wrangling with is a laser.
I keep reading good things said about Brother scanners/all-in-ones. Reading into details, it's always one of two things. It also involves a driver download, like hplip's modus operandi, and it's not really an out of the box solution. Alternatively, the alleged printer model is nowhere to be found in xsane's hardware database. So, it's basically pot luck: buy it, and hope that it works.
Anyway, I think I managed to get this HP to work over Ethernet. With a direct USB connection xsane is still erroring out. But Ethernet seems to be working.
But now they have. Take a look at:
https://www.wired.com/story/hp-all-in-plan-printer-subscription-service/
Yes, and looks like they're starting to push this onto the laser printers too, as I see from the packaging and the marketing material on this laser.
On Thu, 2024-03-21 at 17:36 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I keep reading good things said about Brother scanners/all-in-ones. Reading into details, it's always one of two things. It also involves a driver download, like hplip's modus operandi, and it's not really an out of the box solution.
As I already pointed out, my Brother unit did not require a driver download. One is available, but I don't use it.
Alternatively, the alleged printer model is nowhere to be found in xsane's hardware database. So, it's basically pot luck: buy it, and hope that it works.
As I haven't tested every model of Brother all-in-one I can't guarantee that they all work, but I'd be surprised is they didn't. This is the way all such devices will be expected to work in the near future.
poc
On 22/3/24 08:36, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Dave Ihnat writes:
But with the talk of using HP AiOs, I had to pipe up. I have advised all my clients to no longer buy HP printers of any type, including the AiOs, and will personally never buy another HP printer until and unless they back off their current policies and practices.
I believe that the policies and practices described here are for HP's inkjets.
Their reputation definitely precedes them.
HP's laser printers had a little bit bit rep. I've had much better luck, historically, with HP's laser printers than with other brands. The one I'm currently wrangling with is a laser.
I keep reading good things said about Brother scanners/all-in-ones. Reading into details, it's always one of two things. It also involves a driver download, like hplip's modus operandi, and it's not really an out of the box solution. Alternatively, the alleged printer model is nowhere to be found in xsane's hardware database. So, it's basically pot luck: buy it, and hope that it works.
Anyway, I think I managed to get this HP to work over Ethernet. With a direct USB connection xsane is still erroring out. But Ethernet seems to be working.
But now they have. Take a look at:
https://www.wired.com/story/hp-all-in-plan-printer-subscription-service/
Yes, and looks like they're starting to push this onto the laser printers too, as I see from the packaging and the marketing material on this laser.
I have an Epson ET3700 All_in_one printer/scanner connected as a network device on my router via ethernet (it supports wifi but where it is situated it can see a wifi signal. I'm also using the 80211AX protocol on my router). Epson have a driver for the printer but I don't use it, I use the headerless driver from cups. I use simple document scanner for scanning and looking at the KDE Throbber I don't appear to have either Sane or Xsane installed on F39. The one issue I do have with Simple Scanner is on start up it doesn't see the scanner, I have to refresh its detection for it to see the device.
regards, Steve
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On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 5:36 PM Sam Varshavchik mrsam@courier-mta.com wrote:
[...] I keep reading good things said about Brother scanners/all-in-ones. Reading into details, it's always one of two things. It also involves a driver download, like hplip's modus operandi, and it's not really an out of the box solution. Alternatively, the alleged printer model is nowhere to be found in xsane's hardware database. So, it's basically pot luck: buy it, and hope that it works.
One comment about Brother... My mother uses Linux Mint and has a Brother MFC-J870DW All-in-One over USB. My complaint about the MFC-J870DW is, it only supplies a 32-bit driver. So we have to run the i386 multiarch gear on her 64-bit machine.
The MFC-J870DW is the only thing stopping me from:
sudo apt-get purge $(dpkg --get-selections | grep ":i386" | awk '{print $1}') sudo dpkg --remove-architecture i386
In the past we tried to set up the MFC-J870DW without the Brother driver. It never worked that way, so we had to install the driver. I suspect the problems had to do with the All-in-One connected directly to the machine via USB.
Jeff
On Thu, 2024-03-21 at 18:18 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 5:36 PM Sam Varshavchik mrsam@courier-mta.com wrote:
[...] I keep reading good things said about Brother scanners/all-in-ones. Reading into details, it's always one of two things. It also involves a driver download, like hplip's modus operandi, and it's not really an out of the box solution. Alternatively, the alleged printer model is nowhere to be found in xsane's hardware database. So, it's basically pot luck: buy it, and hope that it works.
One comment about Brother... My mother uses Linux Mint and has a Brother MFC-J870DW All-in-One over USB. My complaint about the MFC-J870DW is, it only supplies a 32-bit driver. So we have to run the i386 multiarch gear on her 64-bit machine.
The MFC-J870DW is the only thing stopping me from:
sudo apt-get purge $(dpkg --get-selections | grep ":i386" | awk '{print $1}') sudo dpkg --remove-architecture i386
In the past we tried to set up the MFC-J870DW without the Brother driver. It never worked that way, so we had to install the driver. I suspect the problems had to do with the All-in-One connected directly to the machine via USB.
This might be useful:
https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting#ippoverusb
It's for Debian but that doesn't seem to matter.
poc
On 3/21/24 17:36, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I keep reading good things said about Brother scanners/all-in-ones. Reading into details, it's always one of two things. It also involves a driver download, like hplip's modus operandi, and it's not really an out of the box solution. Alternatively, the alleged printer model is nowhere to be found in xsane's hardware database. So, it's basically pot luck: buy it, and hope that it works.
I've been following this discussion because I currently have an HP-4650 3 in 1 inkjet and I'd like to replace it with a laser 3 in 1. I've been looking at the Brother DCP-L2640DW. Right now it goes for $200. I've been looking to see if it works with Fedora but have not been having much luck other than reviews on Amazon. Some say it works out of the box on Linux and other say they had to download the driver. I believe it's rather new, being released last summer so I imagine it should work as both a printer with cups and scanner with xsane.
Does anyone have any experience with this printer/scanner/copier?
Thanks Charles Dennett
On 3/18/24 18:09, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/18/24 17:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
I don't use xsane, but my Brother multi-function color laser scans with the Gnome scanning app with no problems. It depends on what you mean by "out of the box". I did install a driver at one point and I assume that's still being used.
I've now checked and I can't find any installed driver and cups says it's "driverless", so that would imply it working out of the box and I would expect any newer models to do the same.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:04 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/18/24 18:09, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/18/24 17:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
I don't use xsane, but my Brother multi-function color laser scans with the Gnome scanning app with no problems. It depends on what you mean by "out of the box". I did install a driver at one point and I assume that's still being used.
I've now checked and I can't find any installed driver and cups says it's "driverless", so that would imply it working out of the box and I would expect any newer models to do the same.
If it is driverless, it is probably using IPP or IPP over USB. See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/cups-useful-tricks/.
Jeff
On 3/21/24 23:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:04 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/18/24 18:09, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/18/24 17:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
I don't use xsane, but my Brother multi-function color laser scans with the Gnome scanning app with no problems. It depends on what you mean by "out of the box". I did install a driver at one point and I assume that's still being used.
I've now checked and I can't find any installed driver and cups says it's "driverless", so that would imply it working out of the box and I would expect any newer models to do the same.
If it is driverless, it is probably using IPP or IPP over USB. See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/cups-useful-tricks/.
Yes, it's a wifi printer and it's using IPP and it's working fine. I was just clarifying my previous comment where I thought I had installed a driver.
Btw, my Fedora computer is apparently the only one that can print double-sided properly to it. The phones and Windows computers will only print short side flip for some reason even if long is selected. It's very strange.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:52 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/21/24 23:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:04 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/18/24 18:09, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/18/24 17:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
I don't use xsane, but my Brother multi-function color laser scans with the Gnome scanning app with no problems. It depends on what you mean by "out of the box". I did install a driver at one point and I assume that's still being used.
I've now checked and I can't find any installed driver and cups says it's "driverless", so that would imply it working out of the box and I would expect any newer models to do the same.
If it is driverless, it is probably using IPP or IPP over USB. See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/cups-useful-tricks/.
Yes, it's a wifi printer and it's using IPP and it's working fine. I was just clarifying my previous comment where I thought I had installed a driver.
Btw, my Fedora computer is apparently the only one that can print double-sided properly to it. The phones and Windows computers will only print short side flip for some reason even if long is selected. It's very strange.
Jeff
On 3/22/24 00:02, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:52 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/21/24 23:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:04 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/18/24 18:09, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/18/24 17:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me.
I don't use xsane, but my Brother multi-function color laser scans with the Gnome scanning app with no problems. It depends on what you mean by "out of the box". I did install a driver at one point and I assume that's still being used.
I've now checked and I can't find any installed driver and cups says it's "driverless", so that would imply it working out of the box and I would expect any newer models to do the same.
If it is driverless, it is probably using IPP or IPP over USB. See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/cups-useful-tricks/.
Yes, it's a wifi printer and it's using IPP and it's working fine. I was just clarifying my previous comment where I thought I had installed a driver.
Btw, my Fedora computer is apparently the only one that can print double-sided properly to it. The phones and Windows computers will only print short side flip for some reason even if long is selected. It's very strange.
You got that completely backwards. I have no issues at all using Fedora. It's everyone else that it isn't working for.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 3:08 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/22/24 00:02, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:52 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/21/24 23:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:04 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/18/24 18:09, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/18/24 17:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with > Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the > job for me.
I don't use xsane, but my Brother multi-function color laser scans with the Gnome scanning app with no problems. It depends on what you mean by "out of the box". I did install a driver at one point and I assume that's still being used.
I've now checked and I can't find any installed driver and cups says it's "driverless", so that would imply it working out of the box and I would expect any newer models to do the same.
If it is driverless, it is probably using IPP or IPP over USB. See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/cups-useful-tricks/.
Yes, it's a wifi printer and it's using IPP and it's working fine. I was just clarifying my previous comment where I thought I had installed a driver.
Btw, my Fedora computer is apparently the only one that can print double-sided properly to it. The phones and Windows computers will only print short side flip for some reason even if long is selected. It's very strange.
You got that completely backwards. I have no issues at all using Fedora. It's everyone else that it isn't working for.
From the section:
... Some devices declare less options via protocols - f.e. IPP 2.0+, WSD, eSCL - which support driverless solutions than via classic drivers...
It sounds like your WIndows machine is using WSD, and it is providing fewer options than IPP.
Jeff
On 3/22/24 00:11, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 3:08 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/22/24 00:02, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:52 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/21/24 23:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:04 AM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/18/24 18:09, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 3/18/24 17:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with >> Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the >> job for me. > > I don't use xsane, but my Brother multi-function color laser scans with > the Gnome scanning app with no problems. It depends on what you mean by > "out of the box". I did install a driver at one point and I assume > that's still being used.
I've now checked and I can't find any installed driver and cups says it's "driverless", so that would imply it working out of the box and I would expect any newer models to do the same.
If it is driverless, it is probably using IPP or IPP over USB. See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/cups-useful-tricks/.
Yes, it's a wifi printer and it's using IPP and it's working fine. I was just clarifying my previous comment where I thought I had installed a driver.
Btw, my Fedora computer is apparently the only one that can print double-sided properly to it. The phones and Windows computers will only print short side flip for some reason even if long is selected. It's very strange.
You got that completely backwards. I have no issues at all using Fedora. It's everyone else that it isn't working for.
From the section:
... Some devices declare less options via protocols - f.e. IPP 2.0+, WSD, eSCL - which support driverless solutions than via classic drivers...It sounds like your WIndows machine is using WSD, and it is providing fewer options than IPP.
The option is there, it just apparently doesn't work. And it's not *my* Windows machine. :-) The kids run windows on their computers now that they bought their own.
On Thu, 2024-03-21 at 21:45 -0400, Charles Dennett wrote:
On 3/21/24 17:36, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I keep reading good things said about Brother scanners/all-in-ones. Reading into details, it's always one of two things. It also involves a driver download, like hplip's modus operandi, and it's not really an out of the box solution. Alternatively, the alleged printer model is nowhere to be found in xsane's hardware database. So, it's basically pot luck: buy it, and hope that it works.
I've been following this discussion because I currently have an HP- 4650 3 in 1 inkjet and I'd like to replace it with a laser 3 in 1. I've been looking at the Brother DCP-L2640DW. Right now it goes for $200. I've been looking to see if it works with Fedora but have not been having much luck other than reviews on Amazon. Some say it works out of the box on Linux and other say they had to download the driver. I believe it's rather new, being released last summer so I imagine it should work as both a printer with cups and scanner with xsane.
Does anyone have any experience with this printer/scanner/copier?
I have the DCP-L2530DW, which I think is very similar (and probably uses the same onboard software). Works perfectly.
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