Hi,
This morning when I botted my laptop (Dell G15) and the login didn' appear, just the mouse arrow. I thougt it was a sddm problem so I switched to gdm and it worked and Gnome started but not KDE(X11), not even with a new user. I installed LXDE and that too worked without problems but it gave me an error about KDEconnect(crashed) and the same when I tried to start Konsole, while the LXDE terminal works.
Journalctl reports a lot of kdesomething that dumped core,the first seems to be kdeconnect...
It seems that KDE is, for some reason hosed. Is it possible to do a reinstall of KDE or reinstalling F34 is the only solution.
GiP
On 19/09/2021 19:50, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:
This morning when I botted my laptop (Dell G15) and the login didn' appear, just the mouse arrow. I thougt it was a sddm problem so I switched to gdm and it worked and Gnome started but not KDE(X11), not even with a new user. I installed LXDE and that too worked without problems but it gave me an error about KDEconnect(crashed) and the same when I tried to start Konsole, while the LXDE terminal works.
Journalctl reports a lot of kdesomething that dumped core,the first seems to be kdeconnect...
It seems that KDE is, for some reason hosed. Is it possible to do a reinstall of KDE or reinstalling F34 is the only solution.
Before taking any drastic measures.....
1. Create a new user and see if it also has the issue. It could specific to your user. 2. Think about posting to the KDE list as more experienced folks may hang out there.
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On 19/09/2021 14:03, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 19/09/2021 19:50, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:
This morning when I botted my laptop (Dell G15) and the login didn' appear, just the mouse arrow. I thougt it was a sddm problem so I switched to gdm and it worked and Gnome started but not KDE(X11), not even with a new user. I installed LXDE and that too worked without problems but it gave me an error about KDEconnect(crashed) and the same when I tried to start Konsole, while the LXDE terminal works.
Journalctl reports a lot of kdesomething that dumped core,the first seems to be kdeconnect...
It seems that KDE is, for some reason hosed. Is it possible to do a reinstall of KDE or reinstalling F34 is the only solution.
Before taking any drastic measures.....
1. Create a new user and see if it also has the issue. It could specific to your user. 2. Think about posting to the KDE list as more experienced folks may hang out there.
I did try a new user it is up there "not even with a new user". I intended it more as a Fedora Question about rinstalling a group.
G
On 19/09/2021 14:03, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 19/09/2021 19:50, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:
This morning when I botted my laptop (Dell G15) and the login didn' appear, just the mouse arrow. I thougt it was a sddm problem so I switched to gdm and it worked and Gnome started but not KDE(X11), not even with a new user. I installed LXDE and that too worked without problems but it gave me an error about KDEconnect(crashed) and the same when I tried to start Konsole, while the LXDE terminal works.
Journalctl reports a lot of kdesomething that dumped core,the first seems to be kdeconnect...
It seems that KDE is, for some reason hosed. Is it possible to do a reinstall of KDE or reinstalling F34 is the only solution.
Before taking any drastic measures.....
1. Create a new user and see if it also has the issue. It could specific to your user. 2. Think about posting to the KDE list as more experienced folks may hang out there.
After every possible thing I could think of , I removed all KDE and reinstalled it, no joy, exactly the same. Time to reinstall F34, and this is when I discovered that it is nearly impossible to reinstall F34 on a btrfs system without reformatting /home too (!?) I thought that was to point of having /home on a different partition (which looks like it during install but it isn't in btrfs, I didn't know that). Having TWO full backups i started from scratch and reinstalled, and this time "standard partition" and "xfs" I don't think I'll touch btrfs again until the Fedora installer can deal with this absurdity.
And now, back in business, writing this in my new KDE!
Only problem, this new installation didn't see thw Win partitions (maybe I did something when delating btrfs?) and it is not in the Grub menu... I'll deal with this if and when I need that.
GiP
On 9/20/21 5:43 AM, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:
On 19/09/2021 14:03, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 19/09/2021 19:50, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:
This morning when I botted my laptop (Dell G15) and the login didn' appear, just the mouse arrow. I thougt it was a sddm problem so I switched to gdm and it worked and Gnome started but not KDE(X11), not even with a new user. I installed LXDE and that too worked without problems but it gave me an error about KDEconnect(crashed) and the same when I tried to start Konsole, while the LXDE terminal works.
Journalctl reports a lot of kdesomething that dumped core,the first seems to be kdeconnect...
It seems that KDE is, for some reason hosed. Is it possible to do a reinstall of KDE or reinstalling F34 is the only solution.
Before taking any drastic measures.....
1. Create a new user and see if it also has the issue. It could specific to your user. 2. Think about posting to the KDE list as more experienced folks may hang out there.
After every possible thing I could think of , I removed all KDE and reinstalled it, no joy, exactly the same. Time to reinstall F34, and this is when I discovered that it is nearly impossible to reinstall F34 on a btrfs system without reformatting /home too (!?) I thought that was to point of having /home on a different partition (which looks like it during install but it isn't in btrfs, I didn't know that). Having TWO full backups i started from scratch and reinstalled, and this time "standard partition" and "xfs" I don't think I'll touch btrfs again until the Fedora installer can deal with this absurdity.
And now, back in business, writing this in my new KDE!
Thanks for the update. I've been having a lot of problems with KDE since upgrading, too. Sounds like I need to do a fresh install.
Riki
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 3:44 AM GianPiero Puccioni gianpiero.puccioni@isc.cnr.it wrote:
After every possible thing I could think of , I removed all KDE and reinstalled it, no joy, exactly the same. Time to reinstall F34, and this is when I discovered that it is nearly impossible to reinstall F34 on a btrfs system without reformatting /home too (!?)
It is possible, it's just a bit non-obvious how to do it. This test case explains how to to it step by step. You already have a Btrfs installation, so Setup steps 1 and 2 are done. You can go to the how to test steps. The critical steps are 9 and 10. In particular 10 is not obvious that it's creating a new subvolume for '/' and that's why the Btrfs file system isn't reformatted, and hence the existing home subvolume is retained, and just assigned to /home in the new installation.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_partitioning_custom_btrfs_preserv...
And yeah we need a better way to document this than a test case.
On 21/09/2021 05:46, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 3:44 AM GianPiero Puccioni gianpiero.puccioni@isc.cnr.it wrote:
After every possible thing I could think of , I removed all KDE and reinstalled it, no joy, exactly the same. Time to reinstall F34, and this is when I discovered that it is nearly impossible to reinstall F34 on a btrfs system without reformatting /home too (!?)
It is possible, it's just a bit non-obvious how to do it. This test case explains how to to it step by step. You already have a Btrfs installation, so Setup steps 1 and 2 are done. You can go to the how to test steps. The critical steps are 9 and 10. In particular 10 is not obvious that it's creating a new subvolume for '/' and that's why the Btrfs file system isn't reformatted, and hence the existing home subvolume is retained, and just assigned to /home in the new installation.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_partitioning_custom_btrfs_preserv...
And yeah we need a better way to document this than a test case.
Yes I have seen another site with something similar, that's why I said "nearly impossible", moot now , I don't have btrfs anymore and do not plan to use it in the future unless things change. Can be useful for other so thanks for the info.
GiP
P.S. Sending this my spelling checker wanted to change btrfs to "barfs", enough said... G
On Mon, 2021-09-20 at 11:43 +0200, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:
Time to reinstall F34, and this is when I discovered that it is nearly impossible to reinstall F34 on a btrfs system without reformatting /home too (!?) I thought that was to point of having /home on a different partition (which looks like it during install but it isn't in btrfs, I didn't know that).
With the headaches you're going through, I reckon I'll be going back to how I used to do installs years ago. One whole drive for /home, one whole drive for everything else. Though probably a SSD for the system (for speed), and magnetic disc for home (for less nasty surprises).
When a new release is going to be installed, I'll unplug the home drive, and do the install without it. After, I'll attach it and mount it over the system root home folder. Doing it that way took all the worry out of doing installs.
My other approach, was: unplug the drive, install a blank drive, install the OS. Plug in the old drive, copy the data over to the new drive, remove the old drive and store it.
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