I have 1Gb of memory upgrade, so I have enough memory. My SSD is only 4Gb, but I have a 16GB SD card.
So the SSD is setup for /boot with 300Mb, swap with 1.6Gb and the rest is /var. The SD is /
The challenge with the install is the small screen size. I complained about this and submitted a bug on it with f14 (which was the only install I have made on this ee701). Apparently the developers did not feel it necessary to do anything about adjusting the dialog sizes to the actual screen size. For the most part I was able to guess what keys to hit for the buttons cut off below the bottom of the screen. I could not see how to setup a LVM on the SD, so it is just and ext4 partition. Also I could not go into customizing the packages for the install and although I did provide my local repos so I grabbed all the updates right off, I had to just go with the standard graphic desktop package install....
Next I will have to do the gnome 3 customizations. Though I MIGHT just leave it for the defaults for a while, rather than all the customzations I did for this f16 notebook a year ago. I actually would like to wait for f18 for upgrading my main notebook; I kind of like skipping releases...
Anyway. so far so good.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 03:22:55PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I have 1Gb of memory upgrade, so I have enough memory. My SSD is only 4Gb, but I have a 16GB SD card.
I've got F17 installed on my eeepc 901, the model that originally came with their brain-dead version of Linux, and therefore has 20 gigs (total) of SSD (whereas the Windoze version only has 16). F17 installs fine on it, without (as far as I can remember, it having been several months) any undue problems.
So the SSD is setup for /boot with 300Mb, swap with 1.6Gb and the rest is /var. The SD is /
This machine has a 4 gig (C:) and a 16 gig (D:), and I let the installer choose LVM, merging the two SSDs together into a single 20 gig partition. I'd prefer to have the 4 and 16 gig units as separate partitions, but there's no way a reasonably complete system will fit on a 4 gig drive. I tried it in earlier versions (F12/13/14). The 4 gig SSD is considerably faster (well, less slow) than the 16, so the system feels more responsive when the bulk of the system is installed there. Using the LVM gives you no way to ensure it installs system components on the faster part of the 20 gig LVM.
The challenge with the install is the small screen size. I complained about this and submitted a bug on it with f14 (which was the only install I have made on this ee701). Apparently the developers did not
You're aware that you can drag an APP window around on the screen by clicking anywhere within it while holding down ALT? This lets you slide the top of the window off the screen so you can see the buttons at the bottom.
feel it necessary to do anything about adjusting the dialog sizes to the actual screen size. For the most part I was able to guess what keys to hit for the buttons cut off below the bottom of the screen. I could not see how to setup a LVM on the SD, so it is just and ext4 partition. Also I could not go into customizing the packages for the install and although I did provide my local repos so I grabbed all the updates right off, I had to just go with the standard graphic desktop package install....
Next I will have to do the gnome 3 customizations. Though I MIGHT just leave it for the defaults for a while, rather than all the customzations I did for this f16 notebook a year ago. I actually would like to wait for f18 for upgrading my main notebook; I kind of like skipping releases...
I tried Gnome 3, but can't really say I like it. I'm currently using MATE (which comes from a separate REPO, but I've heard will be officially in F18), which acts very much like Gnome 2. (but there seems to be a shorter list of panel applets, for example.)
Anyway. so far so good.
Glad to hear it even CAN be installed on a 701! :)
How's performance?
The 901 takes only 5-7 seconds to suspend, and 4-5 to come back to life. going to hibernate is slower, but still considerably faster than a shudown/reboot cycle.
Good to hear from you, Fred.
On 10/31/2012 03:43 PM, fred smith wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 03:22:55PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I have 1Gb of memory upgrade, so I have enough memory. My SSD is only 4Gb, but I have a 16GB SD card.
I've got F17 installed on my eeepc 901, the model that originally came with their brain-dead version of Linux, and therefore has 20 gigs (total) of SSD (whereas the Windoze version only has 16). F17 installs fine on it, without (as far as I can remember, it having been several months) any undue problems.
So the SSD is setup for /boot with 300Mb, swap with 1.6Gb and the rest is /var. The SD is /
This machine has a 4 gig (C:) and a 16 gig (D:), and I let the installer choose LVM, merging the two SSDs together into a single 20 gig partition. I'd prefer to have the 4 and 16 gig units as separate partitions, but there's no way a reasonably complete system will fit on a 4 gig drive. I tried it in earlier versions (F12/13/14). The 4 gig SSD is considerably faster (well, less slow) than the 16, so the system feels more responsive when the bulk of the system is installed there. Using the LVM gives you no way to ensure it installs system components on the faster part of the 20 gig LVM.
The challenge with the install is the small screen size. I complained about this and submitted a bug on it with f14 (which was the only install I have made on this ee701). Apparently the developers did not
You're aware that you can drag an APP window around on the screen by clicking anywhere within it while holding down ALT? This lets you slide the top of the window off the screen so you can see the buttons at the bottom.
I do this all the time after I was showed it originally on the ee701 with f14. But it does not work with the install screens they just don't move. I really tried....
feel it necessary to do anything about adjusting the dialog sizes to the actual screen size. For the most part I was able to guess what keys to hit for the buttons cut off below the bottom of the screen. I could not see how to setup a LVM on the SD, so it is just and ext4 partition. Also I could not go into customizing the packages for the install and although I did provide my local repos so I grabbed all the updates right off, I had to just go with the standard graphic desktop package install....
Next I will have to do the gnome 3 customizations. Though I MIGHT just leave it for the defaults for a while, rather than all the customzations I did for this f16 notebook a year ago. I actually would like to wait for f18 for upgrading my main notebook; I kind of like skipping releases...
I tried Gnome 3, but can't really say I like it. I'm currently using MATE (which comes from a separate REPO, but I've heard will be officially in F18), which acts very much like Gnome 2. (but there seems to be a shorter list of panel applets, for example.)
I am a bit stubborn and am working within the Gnome 3 model. At some point I am going to have to work with Win8 either on the family machines or work, and knowing how to get a tablet GUI working on a mouse-based system will serve me well.
Anyway. so far so good.
Glad to hear it even CAN be installed on a 701! :)
How's performance?
Decent. But WHAT is semanage doing? I move sshd to another port, so I had to use semanage to enable that port. It had the CPU pegged for a number of minutes.
Principally I am going to be using the system for watching educational (really) mp4 videos with VLC.
The 901 takes only 5-7 seconds to suspend, and 4-5 to come back to life. going to hibernate is slower, but still considerably faster than a shudown/reboot cycle.
I will be finding this out soon enough.
On 10/31/2012 02:47 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am a bit stubborn and am working within the Gnome 3 model. At some point I am going to have to work with Win8 either on the family machines or work, and knowing how to get a tablet GUI working on a mouse-based system will serve me well.
Jerry Pournelle (http://www.jerrypournelle.com) reports that Windows 8 appears designed to take advantage of "hardware you don't have yet." He suggests that most people stick with Windows 7 for the time being if they have the choice. Not using Windows myself, I don't know, but I tend to trust his experience in these things.
On 10/31/2012 06:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/31/2012 02:47 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am a bit stubborn and am working within the Gnome 3 model. At some point I am going to have to work with Win8 either on the family machines or work, and knowing how to get a tablet GUI working on a mouse-based system will serve me well.
Jerry Pournelle (http://www.jerrypournelle.com) reports that Windows 8 appears designed to take advantage of "hardware you don't have yet." He suggests that most people stick with Windows 7 for the time being if they have the choice.
I don't expect to be using Win8, let alone Win7 for a year or so. Gives me more time to get really comfortable with the Tablet-style GUI. Been at it for about a year now.
Not using Windows myself, I don't know, but I tend to trust his experience in these things.
I knew Pournelle back in the 70s; never really got to trust him. But he often does get some things right. :)
FWIW, my netbook switched to Fuduntu (fuduntu.org) some time ago and it seems like a really good fit, especially if you prefer GNOME 2.
My workstations are still Fedora, and I'm awkwardly trying to learn KDE because I can't stomach GNOME 3. But Fuduntu seems to be designed with a mind toward the netbook.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.comwrote:
On 10/31/2012 06:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/31/2012 02:47 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am a bit stubborn and am working within the Gnome 3 model. At some point I am going to have to work with Win8 either on the family machines or work, and knowing how to get a tablet GUI working on a mouse-based system will serve me well.
Jerry Pournelle (http://www.jerrypournelle.com**) reports that Windows 8 appears designed to take advantage of "hardware you don't have yet." He suggests that most people stick with Windows 7 for the time being if they have the choice.
I don't expect to be using Win8, let alone Win7 for a year or so. Gives me more time to get really comfortable with the Tablet-style GUI. Been at it for about a year now.
Not using Windows myself, I don't know, but I tend to trust his
experience in these things.
I knew Pournelle back in the 70s; never really got to trust him. But he often does get some things right. :)
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On 11/01/2012 11:59 AM, Alan Evans wrote:
My workstations are still Fedora, and I'm awkwardly trying to learn KDE because I can't stomach GNOME 3. But Fuduntu seems to be designed with a mind toward the netbook.
If KDE doesn't turn out to be what you like, try Xfce; I've been very happy with it.
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