I have a fully patched version of KDE and still have no sound running fore KDE apps. Before Christmas I had sound on all apps apart from Firefox Flash. Now I only have sound on Firefox flash. Amarok, Juk, Audacity, Mumble nothing.
I am running x86_64.
Any ideas .
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Tim and Alison Bentley Home@trarbentley.net wrote:
I have a fully patched version of KDE and still have no sound running fore KDE apps. Before Christmas I had sound on all apps apart from Firefox Flash. Now I only have sound on Firefox flash. Amarok, Juk, Audacity, Mumble nothing.
I am running x86_64.
Any ideas .
-- Tim and Alison Bentley Home@TRARBentley.net
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i had a similar problem until i removed pulseaudio.
On 1 February 2010 02:12, Tim and Alison Bentley Home@trarbentley.net wrote:
I have a fully patched version of KDE and still have no sound running fore KDE apps. Before Christmas I had sound on all apps apart from Firefox Flash. Now I only have sound on Firefox flash. Amarok, Juk, Audacity, Mumble nothing.
Try changing your backend in control centre -> multimedia -> backend tab.. Xine works for me.
Then again, I also don't have pulseaudio installed..
rpm -qa |grep pulse pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.21-4.fc12.x86_64 wine-pulseaudio-1.1.32-1.fc12.i686 pulseaudio-libs-0.9.21-4.fc12.i686 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.21-4.fc12.i686 pulseaudio-libs-0.9.21-4.fc12.x86_64
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On 02/01/2010 08:49 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
On 1 February 2010 02:12, Tim and Alison BentleyHome@trarbentley.net wrote:
I have a fully patched version of KDE and still have no sound running fore KDE apps. Before Christmas I had sound on all apps apart from Firefox Flash. Now I only have sound on Firefox flash. Amarok, Juk, Audacity, Mumble nothing.
I have the same problem on Fedora 11 following the recent update. Last week I could listen to MP3s in Amarok at least, this week nothing. Strangely, I get the start-up sound when entering KDE and then no more sound from anything.
Try changing your backend in control centre -> multimedia -> backend tab.. Xine works for me.
Xine is the only backend in the list.
In the System Settings -> Multimedia -> Audio Output pane the only device listed now is Pulseaudio. Previously, my Midiman Delta soundcard was also listed and when I selected that I had sound. Selecting Pulseaudio has never resulted in working sounds, even before last week. Only it's now no longer possible to select anything else.
Then again, I also don't have pulseaudio installed..
rpm -qa |grep pulse pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.21-4.fc12.x86_64 wine-pulseaudio-1.1.32-1.fc12.i686 pulseaudio-libs-0.9.21-4.fc12.i686 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.21-4.fc12.i686 pulseaudio-libs-0.9.21-4.fc12.x86_64
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[root@happy ~]# rpm -qa | grep pulse pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.15-17.fc11.i586 pulseaudio-libs-0.9.15-17.fc11.i586 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.15-17.fc11.i586 alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.21-2.fc11.i586 xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.16.3-2.fc11.i586 pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.15-17.fc11.i586 kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.2-14.1.noarch pulseaudio-0.9.15-17.fc11.i586 pulseaudio-utils-0.9.15-17.fc11.i586
Regards, Chris R.
Chris Ross wrote:
In the System Settings -> Multimedia -> Audio Output pane the only device listed now is Pulseaudio. Previously, my Midiman Delta soundcard was also listed and when I selected that I had sound. Selecting Pulseaudio has never resulted in working sounds, even before last week.
Well, there's your problem. The old setting bypassed PulseAudio, which is a bad idea when PulseAudio is running because you're taking the device away from PulseAudio.
Only it's now no longer possible to select anything else.
Disable or uninstall PulseAudio if you don't want to use it. But a better idea would be figuring out WHY you get no sound with PulseAudio. Try running pavucontrol (install it if you don't have it) and checking that the sound is not muted and the volumes make sense.
Kevin Kofler
On 02/01/2010 08:49 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Disable or uninstall PulseAudio if you don't want to use it. But a better idea would be figuring out WHY you get no sound with PulseAudio. Try running pavucontrol (install it if you don't have it) and checking that the sound is not muted and the volumes make sense.
Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell PulseAudio to look for audio hardware?
Chris R.
Chris Ross wrote:
Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell PulseAudio to look for audio hardware?
pulseaudio seems to have gotten very confused, not sure how best to get it back in touch with reality...
try rebooting or restarting your session?
-- Rex
On 02/02/2010 02:35 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Chris Ross wrote:
Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell PulseAudio to look for audio hardware?
pulseaudio seems to have gotten very confused, not sure how best to get it back in touch with reality...
try rebooting or restarting your session?
I have done. Many times. It doesn't help.
Chris R.
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 05:39:54PM +0000, Chris Ross wrote:
On 02/02/2010 02:35 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Chris Ross wrote:
Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell PulseAudio to look for audio hardware?
pulseaudio seems to have gotten very confused, not sure how best to get it back in touch with reality...
try rebooting or restarting your session?
I have done. Many times. It doesn't help.
Also have troubles getting sound working in F12 KDE.
With the earlier F12 kernels I did not have sound problems.
But with 2.9.31 kernels mplayer for examples stops after .1 second and I do not hear anything (from the start). (can't test older kernels anymore...)
I installed the rawhide/F13 kernel 2.9.33 rc6 and mplayer continues to 'play' but I still do not hear anything. PLaying around with kmix or alsamix does not help. Then for so,e reason I killed the pulseaudio process and restarted it manually form a Kconsole. Guess what! I suddenly do get real sound! Playing youtubes with firefox still had problems (no sound and hanging movie) but after restarting firefox this problem got resolverd too!
-Marcel
Chris Ross wrote:
Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell PulseAudio to look for audio hardware?
Do you have something running in the background which may be monopolizing your sound hardware? ALL sound-using apps MUST go through PulseAudio for things to work properly.
Kevin Kofler
On 02/02/2010 11:04 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Chris Ross wrote:
Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell PulseAudio to look for audio hardware?
Do you have something running in the background which may be monopolizing your sound hardware? ALL sound-using apps MUST go through PulseAudio for things to work properly.
The only audio things I can see in "ps ax" are pulseaudio and artsd. Is the latter is supposed to be running? Wasn't the point of PulseAudio to replace it? I certainly haven't started it deliberately, does it just get started automatically if you ever run a KDE3 app and thereafter stop sound working for KDE4? Surely not!
Chris R.
On Wednesday 03 February 2010 10:23:25 Chris Ross wrote:
On 02/02/2010 11:04 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Chris Ross wrote:
Although the "Input Devices" tab shows ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller the Output Devices tab shows only the NULL device. Selecting Show -> Hardware Output Devices simply says "No output devices available". Why would that be and where can I tell PulseAudio to look for audio hardware?
Do you have something running in the background which may be monopolizing your sound hardware? ALL sound-using apps MUST go through PulseAudio for things to work properly.
The only audio things I can see in "ps ax" are pulseaudio and artsd. Is the latter is supposed to be running? Wasn't the point of PulseAudio to replace it? I certainly haven't started it deliberately, does it just get started automatically if you ever run a KDE3 app and thereafter stop sound working for KDE4? Surely not!
AFAIK, artsd should *not* be running, but rather pulseaudio instead of it. And it should not get started automatically by anything, either.
FWIW, I am having trouble to reproduce anything that was discussed in this thread, on this F12/KDE/64bit (fully updated). Sound works here without problems, pulseaudio is active, and systemsettings -> multimedia -> output device preference has only one stanza, "internal audio analog stereo" for all device categories. As for backend, xine is prefered over gstreamer. And it just works since F12 came out. Although the possible output device stanzas have been changing from time to time, automatically, as updates came by... I remember seeing pulseaudio and pulseaudio server on that list simultaneously at some point. :-)
Maybe the problem has something to do with virtualization, or hardware type, or upgrading path (this F12 was clean install, not upgrade from F11).
HTH, :-) Marko
On 02/03/2010 11:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
FWIW, I am having trouble to reproduce anything that was discussed in this thread,
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Maybe the problem has something to do with virtualization, or hardware type, or upgrading path (this F12 was clean install, not upgrade from F11).
This was originally a clean install of Fedora 11 on a freshly formatted hard disk, that's been updated regularly since. As I said earlier in the thread I did have working sound (though never without issues) until a regular yum update a week or so ago apparently broke it. Now it seems my audio device doesn't show up for PulseAudio at all.
Here's what's been updated lately. I was kind of hoping that a later update would make the problem go away as mysteriously as it arrived.
[root@happy ~]# rpm -qa --last | head -n40 man-1.6f-21.fc11 Wed 03 Feb 2010 10:27:04 AM GMT pciutils-3.1.6-1.fc11 Tue 02 Feb 2010 02:22:22 PM GMT iw-0.9.19-1.fc11 Tue 02 Feb 2010 02:22:21 PM GMT libxfcegui4-4.6.3-1.fc11 Tue 02 Feb 2010 02:22:20 PM GMT mysql-embedded-5.1.42-7.fc11 Tue 02 Feb 2010 02:22:18 PM GMT mysql-server-5.1.42-7.fc11 Tue 02 Feb 2010 02:22:15 PM GMT mysql-5.1.42-7.fc11 Tue 02 Feb 2010 02:22:11 PM GMT pciutils-libs-3.1.6-1.fc11 Tue 02 Feb 2010 02:22:09 PM GMT mysql-libs-5.1.42-7.fc11 Tue 02 Feb 2010 02:22:05 PM GMT pavucontrol-0.9.8-1.fc11 Tue 02 Feb 2010 09:14:08 AM GMT libglademm24-2.6.7-2.fc11 Tue 02 Feb 2010 09:14:04 AM GMT wesnoth-data-1.6.5-1.fc11 Mon 01 Feb 2010 01:35:16 PM GMT wesnoth-1.6.5-1.fc11 Mon 01 Feb 2010 01:34:02 PM GMT SDL_net-1.2.7-5.fc11 Mon 01 Feb 2010 01:34:00 PM GMT automake-1.11.1-1.fc11.1 Mon 01 Feb 2010 10:07:57 AM GMT ql2400-firmware-5.03.01-1.fc11 Mon 01 Feb 2010 10:07:56 AM GMT autoconf-2.63-5.fc11 Mon 01 Feb 2010 10:07:55 AM GMT gzip-1.3.12-10.fc11 Mon 01 Feb 2010 10:07:54 AM GMT alsa-tools-1.0.22-1.fc11 Mon 01 Feb 2010 10:07:53 AM GMT fuse-2.8.1-2.fc11 Mon 01 Feb 2010 10:07:52 AM GMT fuse-libs-2.8.1-2.fc11 Mon 01 Feb 2010 10:07:49 AM GMT samba-client-3.4.5-0.47.fc11 Fri 29 Jan 2010 09:14:23 AM GMT libsmbclient-3.4.5-0.47.fc11 Fri 29 Jan 2010 09:14:19 AM GMT samba-common-3.4.5-0.47.fc11 Fri 29 Jan 2010 09:14:14 AM GMT samba-winbind-3.4.5-0.47.fc11 Fri 29 Jan 2010 09:14:09 AM GMT sos-1.8-21.fc11 Fri 29 Jan 2010 09:14:04 AM GMT phonon-devel-4.3.80-5.fc11.2 Thu 28 Jan 2010 09:23:05 AM GMT phonon-backend-xine-4.3.80-5.fc11.2 Thu 28 Jan 2010 09:23:02 AM GMT kdebase-runtime-4.3.4-3.fc11 Thu 28 Jan 2010 09:22:50 AM GMT kdebase-runtime-libs-4.3.4-3.fc11 Thu 28 Jan 2010 09:22:35 AM GMT phonon-4.3.80-5.fc11.2 Thu 28 Jan 2010 09:22:33 AM GMT elfutils-0.144-1.fc11 Thu 28 Jan 2010 09:22:31 AM GMT openvpn-2.1.1-2.fc11 Thu 28 Jan 2010 09:22:28 AM GMT pkcs11-helper-1.07-2.fc11 Thu 28 Jan 2010 09:22:26 AM GMT elfutils-libs-0.144-1.fc11 Thu 28 Jan 2010 09:22:25 AM GMT elfutils-libelf-0.144-1.fc11 Thu 28 Jan 2010 09:22:19 AM GMT foomatic-4.0.3-5.fc11 Wed 27 Jan 2010 06:00:35 PM GMT alsa-lib-1.0.22-3.fc11 Wed 27 Jan 2010 05:59:58 PM GMT sane-backends-1.0.20-11.fc11 Tue 26 Jan 2010 09:43:11 AM GMT sane-backends-libs-1.0.20-11.fc11 Tue 26 Jan 2010 09:42:24 AM GMT
Chris Ross wrote:
The only audio things I can see in "ps ax" are pulseaudio and artsd. Is the latter is supposed to be running? Wasn't the point of PulseAudio to replace it? I certainly haven't started it deliberately, does it just get started automatically if you ever run a KDE3 app and thereafter stop sound working for KDE4? Surely not!
artsd gets started up for KDE 3 apps, to support KDE 3 sound events and, in some cases, sound output from the KDE 3 app (though not many aRts-using apps are left). It only gets started up when you run a KDE 3 app. And it shouldn't be monopolizing the sound device. Please check that you have alsa- plugins-pulseaudio installed (aRts picks up the ALSA PulseAudio device which that plugin sets up). It also defaults to terminating automatically after 60 seconds of inactivity.
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