Using Mate on FC20, with latest updates. Cntrl-Alt-F keys never worked from the very first login into Mate Desktop.
These are the installed mate packages. Am I missing something?
It my be worthwhile to note that at the login screen, Cntrl-Alt-F keys DO WORK!! After login, into mate desktop, they stop working.
imsettings-mate-1.6.7-1.fc20.x86_64 libmatekbd-1.6.1-2.fc20.x86_64 libmateweather-1.6.2-3.fc20.x86_64 libmateweather-data-1.6.2-3.fc20.noarch libmatewnck-1.6.1-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-applets-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-backgrounds-1.6.1-1.fc20.noarch mate-calc-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-character-map-1.6.1-0.1.git2464a6c.fc20.x86_64 mate-control-center-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-control-center-filesystem-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-desktop-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-desktop-libs-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-dialogs-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-document-viewer-1.6.2-3.fc20.x86_64 mate-document-viewer-caja-1.6.2-3.fc20.x86_64 mate-document-viewer-libs-1.6.2-3.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-archiver-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-manager-1.6.4-4.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-manager-extensions-1.6.4-4.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-manager-image-converter-1.6.0-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-manager-schemas-1.6.4-4.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-manager-sendto-1.6.0-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-icon-theme-1.6.3-1.fc20.noarch mate-image-viewer-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-media-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-menu-editor-1.6.1-1.fc20.noarch mate-menus-1.6.0-5.fc20.x86_64 mate-menus-libs-1.6.0-5.fc20.x86_64 mate-menus-preferences-category-menu-1.6.0-5.fc20.x86_64 mate-netspeed-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-notification-daemon-1.6.1-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-panel-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-panel-libs-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-polkit-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-power-manager-1.6.3-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-screensaver-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-screensaver-devel-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-screenshot-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-search-tool-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-session-manager-1.6.1-4.fc20.x86_64 mate-settings-daemon-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-system-monitor-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-terminal-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-text-editor-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-themes-1.8.1-1.fc20.noarch mate-utils-common-1.6.1-1.fc20.noarch mate-window-manager-1.6.2-6.fc20.x86_64
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Paul Cartwright pbcartwright@gmail.com wrote:
Using Mate on FC20, with latest updates. Cntrl-Alt-F keys never worked from the very first login into Mate Desktop.
These are the installed mate packages. Am I missing something?
It my be worthwhile to note that at the login screen, Cntrl-Alt-F keys DO WORK!! After login, into mate desktop, they stop working.
imsettings-mate-1.6.7-1.fc20.x86_64 libmatekbd-1.6.1-2.fc20.x86_64 libmateweather-1.6.2-3.fc20.x86_64 libmateweather-data-1.6.2-3.fc20.noarch libmatewnck-1.6.1-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-applets-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-backgrounds-1.6.1-1.fc20.noarch mate-calc-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-character-map-1.6.1-0.1.git2464a6c.fc20.x86_64 mate-control-center-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-control-center-filesystem-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-desktop-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-desktop-libs-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-dialogs-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-document-viewer-1.6.2-3.fc20.x86_64 mate-document-viewer-caja-1.6.2-3.fc20.x86_64 mate-document-viewer-libs-1.6.2-3.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-archiver-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-manager-1.6.4-4.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-manager-extensions-1.6.4-4.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-manager-image-converter-1.6.0-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-manager-schemas-1.6.4-4.fc20.x86_64 mate-file-manager-sendto-1.6.0-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-icon-theme-1.6.3-1.fc20.noarch mate-image-viewer-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-media-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-menu-editor-1.6.1-1.fc20.noarch mate-menus-1.6.0-5.fc20.x86_64 mate-menus-libs-1.6.0-5.fc20.x86_64 mate-menus-preferences-category-menu-1.6.0-5.fc20.x86_64 mate-netspeed-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-notification-daemon-1.6.1-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-panel-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-panel-libs-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-polkit-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-power-manager-1.6.3-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-screensaver-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-screensaver-devel-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-screenshot-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-search-tool-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-session-manager-1.6.1-4.fc20.x86_64 mate-settings-daemon-1.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 mate-system-monitor-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-terminal-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-text-editor-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64 mate-themes-1.8.1-1.fc20.noarch mate-utils-common-1.6.1-1.fc20.noarch mate-window-manager-1.6.2-6.fc20.x86_64
works for me... Fedora 20 amd_64 uname -a Linux pauls-server 3.14.8-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Jun 16 21:57:53 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
running MATE.. [root@pauls-server ~]# yum list |grep mate imsettings-mate.x86_64 1.6.7-1.fc20 @updates libmatekbd.x86_64 1.6.1-2.fc20 @fedora libmateweather.i686 1.6.2-3.fc20 @fedora libmateweather.x86_64 1.6.2-3.fc20 @fedora
Thank you Paul, but that still doe snot help me :(
I hope someone could come up with a way to diagnose the cause of my problem.
Cheers,
JD
On 2014-06-22 13:20, JD wrote:
Using Mate on FC20, with latest updates. Cntrl-Alt-F keys never worked from the very first login into Mate Desktop.
These are the installed mate packages. Am I missing something?
It my be worthwhile to note that at the login screen, Cntrl-Alt-F keys DO WORK!! After login, into mate desktop, they stop working.
Is there something that is happening to the keyboard mapping? My keyboards require a function key to be set to use the Function keys. Is this being reset when Mate starts?
showkey can be used to see if they are working.
On my keyboard, if the F lock button is not pushed, then the keys send anything.
xkeycaps as well.
On 06/23/2014 11:16 AM, Laing, Robin wrote:
Is there something that is happening to the keyboard mapping? My keyboards require a function key to be set to use the Function keys. Is this being reset when Mate starts?
showkey can be used to see if they are working.
On my keyboard, if the F lock button is not pushed, then the keys send anything.
xkeycaps as well.
I ran showkey, and pressed: alt-ctrl-f2-f2 [root@pauls-server ~]# showkey kb mode was ?UNKNOWN? [ if you are trying this under X, it might not work since the X server is also reading /dev/console ]
press any key (program terminates 10s after last keypress)... ALT: keycode 28 release keycode 56 press keycode 56 release CTRL: keycode 29 press keycode 29 release F2 ^[OQkeycode 60 press keycode 60 release F3 ^[ORkeycode 61 press keycode 61 release
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Laing, Robin Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca wrote:
On 2014-06-22 13:20, JD wrote:
Using Mate on FC20, with latest updates. Cntrl-Alt-F keys never worked from the very first login into Mate
Desktop.
These are the installed mate packages. Am I missing something?
It my be worthwhile to note that at the login screen, Cntrl-Alt-F keys DO WORK!! After login, into mate desktop, they stop working.
Is there something that is happening to the keyboard mapping? My keyboards require a function key to be set to use the Function keys. Is this being reset when Mate starts?
showkey can be used to see if they are working.
On my keyboard, if the F lock button is not pushed, then the keys send anything.
xkeycaps as well.
My KB is the laptop's KB (Dell Latitude E6500) There is no F-Lock key that I can see. Tried showkey and pressed Cntrl-Alt-F2
# showkey kb mode was ?UNKNOWN? [ if you are trying this under X, it might not work since the X server is also reading /dev/console ] press any key (program terminates 10s after last keypress)...
By the above warning, it seems useless to try showkey under X But here goes ....
keycode 29 press keycode 56 press keycode 60 press keycode 60 release keycode 56 release keycode 29 release
And still no effect.
xkeycaps fails to detect my type of keyboard and assumes a 101 key PC keyboard, which is not the case.
The GUI does not allow scrolling the KB type list so I can select the right KB. I tried to scroll it with the mouse and with the up/down arrow keys to not avail. I tried to drage the scroll bar of each columns in the KB config GUI, again to no avail.
On 06/23/2014 03:20 PM, JD wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Laing, Robin <Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca mailto:Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca> wrote:
On 2014-06-22 13:20, JD wrote: > Using Mate on FC20, with latest updates. > Cntrl-Alt-F keys never worked from the very first login into Mate Desktop. > > These are the installed mate packages. Am I missing something? > > It my be worthwhile to note that at the login screen, Cntrl-Alt-F keys DO > WORK!! > After login, into mate desktop, they stop working. > Is there something that is happening to the keyboard mapping? My keyboards require a function key to be set to use the Function keys. Is this being reset when Mate starts? showkey can be used to see if they are working. On my keyboard, if the F lock button is not pushed, then the keys send anything. xkeycaps as well.My KB is the laptop's KB (Dell Latitude E6500) There is no F-Lock key that I can see. Tried showkey and pressed Cntrl-Alt-F2
# showkey kb mode was ?UNKNOWN? [ if you are trying this under X, it might not work since the X server is also reading /dev/console ] press any key (program terminates 10s after last keypress)...
By the above warning, it seems useless to try showkey under X But here goes ....
keycode 29 press keycode 56 press keycode 60 press keycode 60 release keycode 56 release keycode 29 release
And still no effect.
xkeycaps fails to detect my type of keyboard and assumes a 101 key PC keyboard, which is not the case.
The GUI does not allow scrolling the KB type list so I can select the right KB. I tried to scroll it with the mouse and with the up/down arrow keys to not avail. I tried to drage the scroll bar of each columns in the KB config GUI, again to no avail.
maybe modify your keyboard layout??
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/37617/how-to-change-the-keyboard-l...
If you didn't have the graphical way or localectl. You could edit or create the file /etc/locale.conf and if you were en_US.UTF-8 (replace with the Spanish-Latin America equivalent). You would place in /etc/locale.conf
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
Also you would edit or create the file /etc/vconsole.conf and if you were in the U.S.A (replace with the Spanish-Latin America equivalent). You would place in /etc/vconsole.conf
On 06/23/2014 12:20 PM, JD issued this missive:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Laing, Robin <Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca mailto:Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca> wrote:
On 2014-06-22 13:20, JD wrote: > Using Mate on FC20, with latest updates. > Cntrl-Alt-F keys never worked from the very first login into Mate Desktop. > > These are the installed mate packages. Am I missing something? > > It my be worthwhile to note that at the login screen, Cntrl-Alt-F keys DO > WORK!! > After login, into mate desktop, they stop working. > Is there something that is happening to the keyboard mapping? My keyboards require a function key to be set to use the Function keys. Is this being reset when Mate starts? showkey can be used to see if they are working. On my keyboard, if the F lock button is not pushed, then the keys send anything. xkeycaps as well.My KB is the laptop's KB (Dell Latitude E6500) There is no F-Lock key that I can see. Tried showkey and pressed Cntrl-Alt-F2
# showkey kb mode was ?UNKNOWN? [ if you are trying this under X, it might not work since the X server is also reading /dev/console ] press any key (program terminates 10s after last keypress)...
By the above warning, it seems useless to try showkey under X But here goes ....
Trying them from my machine...
keycode 29 press
That's correct for the left control key
keycode 56 press
That's correct for the left ALT key
keycode 60 press
Looks OK for the F2 key on my machine. Note that it also echoes "^[OQ" when I press F2.
keycode 60 release keycode 56 release keycode 29 release
And still no effect.
If you're trying to get to a text console, please make sure the getty.target service is running:
# systemctl status getty.target
If it's not running, then the system won't spawn an agetty for the console you're trying to get to. IIRC, getty.target is wanted by the multiuser.target, so if you launched X by some means other than via a multiuser boot, then that's likely your problem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Politicians are the opposite of pickpockets because you never see - - them take their hand out of your pocket. - - -- Larry Fine - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Paul Cartwright pbcartwright@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/23/2014 03:20 PM, JD wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Laing, Robin <Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca mailto:Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca>
wrote:
On 2014-06-22 13:20, JD wrote: > Using Mate on FC20, with latest updates. > Cntrl-Alt-F keys never worked from the very first login into Mate Desktop. > > These are the installed mate packages. Am I missing something? > > It my be worthwhile to note that at the login screen, Cntrl-Alt-F keys DO > WORK!! > After login, into mate desktop, they stop working. > Is there something that is happening to the keyboard mapping? My keyboards require a function key to be set to use the Function keys. Is this being reset when Mate starts? showkey can be used to see if they are working. On my keyboard, if the F lock button is not pushed, then the keyssend
anything. xkeycaps as well.My KB is the laptop's KB (Dell Latitude E6500) There is no F-Lock key that I can see. Tried showkey and pressed Cntrl-Alt-F2
# showkey kb mode was ?UNKNOWN? [ if you are trying this under X, it might not work since the X server is also reading /dev/console ] press any key (program terminates 10s after last keypress)...
By the above warning, it seems useless to try showkey under X But here goes ....
keycode 29 press keycode 56 press keycode 60 press keycode 60 release keycode 56 release keycode 29 release
And still no effect.
xkeycaps fails to detect my type of keyboard and assumes a 101 key PC keyboard, which is not the case.
The GUI does not allow scrolling the KB type list so I can select the right KB. I tried to scroll it with the mouse and with the up/down arrow keys to not avail. I tried to drage the scroll bar of each columns in the KB config GUI, again to no avail.
maybe modify your keyboard layout??
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/37617/how-to-change-the-keyboard-l...
If you didn't have the graphical way or localectl. You could edit or create the file /etc/locale.conf and if you were en_US.UTF-8 (replace with the Spanish-Latin America equivalent). You would place in /etc/locale.conf
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
Also you would edit or create the file /etc/vconsole.conf and if you were in the U.S.A (replace with the Spanish-Latin America equivalent). You would place in /etc/vconsole.conf
The real question is: Why did not Anaconda correctly detect my KB type so that programs like xkeycaps would not have to guess the wrong KB type?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Rick Stevens ricks@alldigital.com wrote:
On 06/23/2014 12:20 PM, JD issued this missive:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Laing, Robin <Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca mailto:Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca> wrote:
On 2014-06-22 13:20, JD wrote: > Using Mate on FC20, with latest updates. > Cntrl-Alt-F keys never worked from the very first login into Mate Desktop. > > These are the installed mate packages. Am I missing something? > > It my be worthwhile to note that at the login screen, Cntrl-Alt-F keys DO > WORK!! > After login, into mate desktop, they stop working. > Is there something that is happening to the keyboard mapping? My keyboards require a function key to be set to use the Function keys.Is this being reset when Mate starts?
showkey can be used to see if they are working. On my keyboard, if the F lock button is not pushed, then the keys send anything. xkeycaps as well.My KB is the laptop's KB (Dell Latitude E6500) There is no F-Lock key that I can see. Tried showkey and pressed Cntrl-Alt-F2
# showkey kb mode was ?UNKNOWN? [ if you are trying this under X, it might not work since the X server is also reading /dev/console ] press any key (program terminates 10s after last keypress)...
By the above warning, it seems useless to try showkey under X But here goes ....
Trying them from my machine...
keycode 29 press
That's correct for the left control key
keycode 56 press
That's correct for the left ALT key
keycode 60 press
Looks OK for the F2 key on my machine. Note that it also echoes "^[OQ" when I press F2.
keycode 60 release
keycode 56 release keycode 29 release
And still no effect.
If you're trying to get to a text console, please make sure the getty.target service is running:
# systemctl status getty.targetIf it's not running, then the system won't spawn an agetty for the console you're trying to get to. IIRC, getty.target is wanted by the multiuser.target, so if you launched X by some means other than via a multiuser boot, then that's likely your problem.
Thank you Rick. As I already replied to the list, getty is indeed running: $ ps -ef | grep getty root 2194 1 0 Jun22 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty --noclear tty2 root 2199 1 0 Jun22 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty --noclear tty3 root 2202 1 0 Jun22 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty --noclear tty4 root 2205 1 0 Jun22 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty --noclear tty5 root 2208 1 0 Jun22 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty --noclear tty6 root 2211 1 0 Jun22 tty7 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty --noclear tty7 root 2214 1 0 Jun22 tty8 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty --noclear tty8 root 2217 1 0 Jun22 tty9 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty --noclear tty9 My KB also issues ^[OQ when I press the F2 key by itself.
I am going to try another idea and get back to the list. I am suspecting something in my
~/.gconf/ ~/.gconfd/ ~/.gnome2/ ~/.gnome2_private/
JD jd1008@gmail.com writes:
Using Mate on FC20, with latest updates. Cntrl-Alt-F keys never worked from the very first login into Mate Desktop.
These are the installed mate packages. Am I missing something?
It usually means that your keyboard is not configured correctly.
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