USB WiFi

[Timothy Murphy]

Is anyone using USB WiFi devices with Fedora?
I have a Lucent/Orinoco USB Gold Client,

I have been looking at the
"Linux driver for Lucent/Agere ORiNOCO USB devices"
by Øystein Olsen at <http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/orinoco-usb/>;,
and have downloaded the Fedora-3 RPM.

Unfortunately, I find some of the instructions rather confusing.

(1) It says that 
"The orinoco-usb driver is for now only available from cvs".
But I can't find an orinoco-usb CVS.
Does this mean the orinoco CVS?

In any case, since there is an orinoco-usb rpm.
I assume there must be a separate CVS for this application.
Is this a misunderstanding?
Or if not, where is the orinoco-usb CVS?

(2) It says in the introudction
In <http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/orinoco-usb/index.html>
"The orinoco-usb driver is for now only available from cvs.
 I put together this page to simplify
the building and installation of the driver.
The driver and script to build the driver,
are all available from the RPMS directory."

I don't understand this;
if the driver is only available from cvs
then what is the RPM?

(3) Later on the same page, it says

"April 2005
Thanks to a tip from Martin Visser, the firmware package is no longer
necessary. The firmware is hard-coded into the driver instead. In short if
you use a driver which is newer that April 4th 2005 or if you use
build-source.sh, you can safely ignore all instructions related to the
firmware and hotplug."

But where exactly does one find a driver newer than April 4th 2005?


Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
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s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

[Billy Tallis]

On 5/7/05, Timothy Murphy <tim(a)birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie&gt; wrote:
>  Is anyone using USB WiFi devices with Fedora?
>  I have a Lucent/Orinoco USB Gold Client,
>  
>  I have been looking at the
>  "Linux driver for Lucent/Agere ORiNOCO USB devices"
>  by Øystein Olsen at <http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/orinoco-usb/>;,
>  and have downloaded the Fedora-3 RPM.
>  
>  Unfortunately, I find some of the instructions rather confusing.
>  
>  (1) It says that
>  "The orinoco-usb driver is for now only available from cvs".
>  But I can't find an orinoco-usb CVS.
>  Does this mean the orinoco CVS?
>  
>  In any case, since there is an orinoco-usb rpm.
>  I assume there must be a separate CVS for this application.
>  Is this a misunderstanding?
>  Or if not, where is the orinoco-usb CVS? 
Just follow the links to the savanna nongnu page and click on CVS.
Or go here : http://savannah.nongnu.org/cvs/?group=orinoco

>  
>  (2) It says in the introudction
>  In <http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/orinoco-usb/index.html>
>  "The orinoco-usb driver is for now only available from cvs.
>   I put together this page to simplify
>  the building and installation of the driver.
>  The driver and script to build the driver,
>  are all available from the RPMS directory."
>  
>  I don't understand this;
>  if the driver is only available from cvs
>  then what is the RPM?
>  
>  (3) Later on the same page, it says
>  
>  "April 2005
>  Thanks to a tip from Martin Visser, the firmware package is no longer
>  necessary. The firmware is hard-coded into the driver instead. In short if
>  you use a driver which is newer that April 4th 2005 or if you use
>  build-source.sh, you can safely ignore all instructions related to the
>  firmware and hotplug."
>  
>  But where exactly does one find a driver newer than April 4th 2005?
>   
CVS should always have the latest code - for any project that uses it.
Usually it is development/unstable code.


>  Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.
>  
>  --
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>  tel: [phone]
>  s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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[Timothy Murphy]

<posted & mailed>

Billy Tallis wrote:

> > Is anyone using USB WiFi devices with Fedora?
> > I have a Lucent/Orinoco USB Gold Client,
> > 
> > I have been looking at the
> > "Linux driver for Lucent/Agere ORiNOCO USB devices"
> > by Øystein Olsen at <http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/orinoco-usb/>;,
> > and have downloaded the Fedora-3 RPM.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I find some of the instructions rather confusing.
> > 
> > (1) It says that
> > "The orinoco-usb driver is for now only available from cvs".
> > But I can't find an orinoco-usb CVS.
> > Does this mean the orinoco CVS?
> > 
> > In any case, since there is an orinoco-usb rpm.
> > I assume there must be a separate CVS for this application.
> > Is this a misunderstanding?
> > Or if not, where is the orinoco-usb CVS?
>  
>  Just follow the links to the savanna nongnu page and click on CVS.
>  Or go here : http://savannah.nongnu.org/cvs/?group=orinoco 
OK, I got the CVS code, compiled it (with linux-2.6.11) and installed it.
There was no problem in that.
I noticed that orinoco_usb.c was not compiled with the given Makefile,
which contains the lines
==============================
ifdef CONFIG_USB
ifdef CONFIG_FW_LOADER
MODULES += orinoco_usb.o
endif
MODULES += prism_usb.o
endif
==============================
So I added
CONFIG_USB=1
CONFIG_FW_LOADER=1
at the beginning of the Makefile,
and now orinoco_usb.o was compiled,
and added to /lib/modules by "make install".

This module was not added automatically
when I plugged in the USB device,
so I added it with "modprobe orinoco_usb".

I saw from /var/log/messages that my laptop
did indeed see this device.
However, no entry in /dev seemed to be made,
and it is not clear to me how this module
is meant to be used.

So I would repeat my query:
Is anyone actually using the Lucent/Orinoco USB WiFi device
(or indeed, any USB WiFi device) under Fedora?





-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

[Jeff Vian]

On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 13:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  <posted & mailed>
>  
>  Billy Tallis wrote:
>  
>  >> Is anyone using USB WiFi devices with Fedora?
>  >> I have a Lucent/Orinoco USB Gold Client,
>  >> 
>  >> I have been looking at the
>  >> "Linux driver for Lucent/Agere ORiNOCO USB devices"
>  >> by Øystein Olsen at <http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/orinoco-usb/>;,
>  >> and have downloaded the Fedora-3 RPM.
>  >> 
>  >> Unfortunately, I find some of the instructions rather confusing.
>  >> 
>  >> (1) It says that
>  >> "The orinoco-usb driver is for now only available from cvs".
>  >> But I can't find an orinoco-usb CVS.
>  >> Does this mean the orinoco CVS?
>  >> 
>  >> In any case, since there is an orinoco-usb rpm.
>  >> I assume there must be a separate CVS for this application.
>  >> Is this a misunderstanding?
>  >> Or if not, where is the orinoco-usb CVS?
>  > 
>  > Just follow the links to the savanna nongnu page and click on CVS.
>  > Or go here : http://savannah.nongnu.org/cvs/?group=orinoco
>  
>  OK, I got the CVS code, compiled it (with linux-2.6.11) and installed it.
>  There was no problem in that.
>  I noticed that orinoco_usb.c was not compiled with the given Makefile,
>  which contains the lines
>  ==============================
>  ifdef CONFIG_USB
>  ifdef CONFIG_FW_LOADER
>  MODULES += orinoco_usb.o
>  endif
>  MODULES += prism_usb.o
>  endif
>  ============================== 
Are you using a 2.6.X kernel?
The module names changed from module.o to module.ko with the 2.6
kernels.  That may be part of your problem.

>  So I added
>  CONFIG_USB=1
>  CONFIG_FW_LOADER=1
>  at the beginning of the Makefile,
>  and now orinoco_usb.o was compiled,
>  and added to /lib/modules by "make install".
>  
>  This module was not added automatically
>  when I plugged in the USB device,
>  so I added it with "modprobe orinoco_usb".
>  
>  I saw from /var/log/messages that my laptop
>  did indeed see this device.
>  However, no entry in /dev seemed to be made,
>  and it is not clear to me how this module
>  is meant to be used.
>  
>  So I would repeat my query:
>  Is anyone actually using the Lucent/Orinoco USB WiFi device
>  (or indeed, any USB WiFi device) under Fedora?
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  -- 
>  Timothy Murphy  
>  e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
>  tel: [phone]
>  s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
>

[Timothy Murphy]

On Sun 08 May 2005 17:21, Jeff Vian wrote:

>  > >> Is anyone using USB WiFi devices with Fedora?
...
>  Are you using a 2.6.X kernel?
>  The module names changed from module.o to module.ko with the 2.6
>  kernels.  That may be part of your problem. 
Thanks for your suggestion.
I am indeed running linux-2.6.11 .
But I have the correct module:
/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco_usb.ko
And "modprobe orinoco_usb" installs this module correctly.

Incidentally, the new orinoco_cs module works perfectly
with an Orinoco Gold PCMCIA WiFi card.

May I ask if you are using a USB WiFi device?
I haven't heard from anyone who is doing so, up to now.

One point I do not understand is whether one is meant to take steps
to upload the firmware (in some sense)
and if so how that is done.

As always, any advice or suggestions gratefully received.

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

[Thufir]

On 5/7/05, Timothy Murphy <tim(a)birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie&gt; wrote:
>  Is anyone using USB WiFi devices with Fedora? 
...

yes, I use:
<http://usa.asus.com/products/communication/wireless/wl-330g/overview.htm>

it works great as my 802.11b network adapter, zero problems.  because
it plugs directly into the ethernet port there's no driver required. 
If 802.11b/g is just wireless ethernet it's simpler than going through
the USB port.  I don't have any gaming consoles, but this adapter
works with them, too.

HTH,

Thufir

[wieseltux23]

https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=pages&continue=h...


On Sun, 8 May 2005 21:42:45 +0100
Timothy Murphy <tim(a)birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie&gt; wrote:

>  On Sun 08 May 2005 17:21, Jeff Vian wrote:
>  
>  > > >> Is anyone using USB WiFi devices with Fedora?
>  ...
>  > Are you using a 2.6.X kernel?
>  > The module names changed from module.o to module.ko with the 2.6
>  > kernels.  That may be part of your problem.
>  
>  Thanks for your suggestion.
>  I am indeed running linux-2.6.11 .
>  But I have the correct module:
>  /lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco_usb.ko
>  And "modprobe orinoco_usb" installs this module correctly.
>  
>  Incidentally, the new orinoco_cs module works perfectly
>  with an Orinoco Gold PCMCIA WiFi card.
>  
>  May I ask if you are using a USB WiFi device?
>  I haven't heard from anyone who is doing so, up to now.
>  
>  One point I do not understand is whether one is meant to take steps
>  to upload the firmware (in some sense)
>  and if so how that is done.
>  
>  As always, any advice or suggestions gratefully received.
>  
>  -- 
>  Timothy Murphy  
>  e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
>  tel: [phone]
>  s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
>  
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