firefox bug (fedora or mozilla?)

[Mike Wright]

Hi all,

I've come across some sites that only partially render when using 
firefox.  I had been using 3.0.15 so upgraded to 3.6.6 from Remi 
Collet's repository in hopes of better functionality but the problem 
persists.  Note that both of these render correctly when using Chrome.

[1] has three columns.  Column one is the login box and it doesn't 
display.  By drilling down using firebug I can change the iframe to 
"display: block" and it appears and is functional.  I can't remember 
where I found the error but the complaint was that it couldn't find 
busybox.  I don't know if that is a dependency but it isn't part of the 
standard install; yum installing it had no effect (which I expected 
because I think there is also a javascript busybox).

[2] has two columns.  The left one is the TOC but it doesn't display 
either.  I can't figure out that one but am inclined to believe it is 
also javascript related.

Would some brave soul be so kind as to give these a whirl and let me 
know if it works for them?

Thanks,
Mike Wright

[1] https://servicing.capitalone.com/c1/login.aspx
[2] http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/software/tws/twsguide.htm

[Stephen Gallagher]

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On 07/30/2010 02:12 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've come across some sites that only partially render when using 
> firefox.  I had been using 3.0.15 so upgraded to 3.6.6 from Remi 
> Collet's repository in hopes of better functionality but the problem 
> persists.  Note that both of these render correctly when using Chrome.
>
> [1] has three columns.  Column one is the login box and it doesn't 
> display.  By drilling down using firebug I can change the iframe to 
> "display: block" and it appears and is functional.  I can't remember 
> where I found the error but the complaint was that it couldn't find 
> busybox.  I don't know if that is a dependency but it isn't part of the 
> standard install; yum installing it had no effect (which I expected 
> because I think there is also a javascript busybox).
>
> [2] has two columns.  The left one is the TOC but it doesn't display 
> either.  I can't figure out that one but am inclined to believe it is 
> also javascript related.
>
> Would some brave soul be so kind as to give these a whirl and let me 
> know if it works for them?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Wright
>
> [1] https://servicing.capitalone.com/c1/login.aspx
> [2] http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/software/tws/twsguide.htm

Both are working fine with firefox-3.6.7-1.fc13.x86_64 and
xulrunner-1.9.2.7-2.fc13.x86_64 for me.

What version of Fedora are you running? What exact Firefox and xulrunner
packages?

- -- 
Stephen Gallagher
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[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 14:33 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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> On 07/30/2010 02:12 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've come across some sites that only partially render when using 
> > firefox.  I had been using 3.0.15 so upgraded to 3.6.6 from Remi 
> > Collet's repository in hopes of better functionality but the problem 
> > persists.  Note that both of these render correctly when using Chrome.
> >
> > [1] has three columns.  Column one is the login box and it doesn't 
> > display.  By drilling down using firebug I can change the iframe to 
> > "display: block" and it appears and is functional.  I can't remember 
> > where I found the error but the complaint was that it couldn't find 
> > busybox.  I don't know if that is a dependency but it isn't part of the 
> > standard install; yum installing it had no effect (which I expected 
> > because I think there is also a javascript busybox).
> >
> > [2] has two columns.  The left one is the TOC but it doesn't display 
> > either.  I can't figure out that one but am inclined to believe it is 
> > also javascript related.
> >
> > Would some brave soul be so kind as to give these a whirl and let me 
> > know if it works for them?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike Wright
> >
> > [1] https://servicing.capitalone.com/c1/login.aspx
> > [2] http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/software/tws/twsguide.htm
>
> Both are working fine with firefox-3.6.7-1.fc13.x86_64 and
> xulrunner-1.9.2.7-2.fc13.x86_64 for me.
>
> What version of Fedora are you running? What exact Firefox and xulrunner
> packages?

Thwey both work for me in 3.6.7

[Mike Wright]

Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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> On 07/30/2010 02:12 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've come across some sites that only partially render when using 
> > firefox.  I had been using 3.0.15 so upgraded to 3.6.6 from Remi 
> > Collet's repository in hopes of better functionality but the problem 
> > persists.  Note that both of these render correctly when using Chrome.
> >
> > [1] has three columns.  Column one is the login box and it doesn't 
> > display.  By drilling down using firebug I can change the iframe to 
> > "display: block" and it appears and is functional.  I can't remember 
> > where I found the error but the complaint was that it couldn't find 
> > busybox.  I don't know if that is a dependency but it isn't part of the 
> > standard install; yum installing it had no effect (which I expected 
> > because I think there is also a javascript busybox).
> >
> > [2] has two columns.  The left one is the TOC but it doesn't display 
> > either.  I can't figure out that one but am inclined to believe it is 
> > also javascript related.
> >
> > Would some brave soul be so kind as to give these a whirl and let me 
> > know if it works for them?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike Wright
> >
> > [1] https://servicing.capitalone.com/c1/login.aspx
> > [2] http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/software/tws/twsguide.htm
>
> Both are working fine with firefox-3.6.7-1.fc13.x86_64 and
> xulrunner-1.9.2.7-2.fc13.x86_64 for me.
>
> What version of Fedora are you running? What exact Firefox and xulrunner
> packages?

Thanks for the help Stephen.

uname -r
fedora 2.6.27.41-170.2.117.fc10.i686

yum list firefox
firefox-3.6.6-1.fc10.remi.i386

yum list xulrunner
xulrunner-1.9.0.15-1.fc10-i386

I just checked those sites with Galeon and they work there, too.
> -- 2.6.27.41-170.2.117.fc10.i686
>
> Stephen Gallagher
> RHCE 804006346421761
>
> Delivering value year after year.
> Red Hat ranks #1 in value among software vendors.
> http://www.redhat.com/promo/vendor/
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[Stephen Gallagher]

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On 07/30/2010 02:50 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
> Both are working fine with firefox-3.6.7-1.fc13.x86_64 and
> xulrunner-1.9.2.7-2.fc13.x86_64 for me.
>
> What version of Fedora are you running? What exact Firefox and xulrunner
> packages?
> > Thanks for the help Stephen.
> > uname -r
> > fedora 2.6.27.41-170.2.117.fc10.i686
> > yum list firefox
> > firefox-3.6.6-1.fc10.remi.i386
> > yum list xulrunner
> > xulrunner-1.9.0.15-1.fc10-i386
> > I just checked those sites with Galeon and they work there, too.

Time to upgrade, I'm afraid. You'll get no support for Fedora 10. It was
end-of-lifed about six months ago. There are no more updates coming for
it, ever.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/Fedora-EOL-Support

- -- 
Stephen Gallagher
RHCE 804006346421761

Delivering value year after year.
Red Hat ranks #1 in value among software vendors.
http://www.redhat.com/promo/vendor/
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[Mike Wright]

Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Time to upgrade, I'm afraid. You'll get no support for Fedora 10. It was
> end-of-lifed about six months ago. There are no more updates coming for
> it, ever.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/Fedora-EOL-Support

Thanks for that but I'm well aware that it's been EOL'd.  I was rather 
more curious as to why I've never seen this brought up (been rh'ing 
since redhat5.2 fit on a single cd in a red jacket a dozen years ago).

Here's an example of why I'm so curious.  While perusing

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/index.html

with firefox on f10 I was surprised to find no TOC at the left.  Viewing 
the source (I added line-feeds for readability purposes) I extracted this:

<div id="tocdiv" class="toc">
   <iframe id="tocframe" class="toc" src="./toc.html">
     This is an iframe, to view it upgrade
     your browser or enable iframe display.
   </iframe>
</div>

The rendering problems I mentioned previously all involved <iframes/>. 
I've never found anything using edit->preferences that has anything to 
do with <iframes/>.

Hard to believe I'm the only person who ever noticed it ;/

Nonetheless, thanks for your time.

Ever onward to f13 (networkmangler and no network connection; regression 
to 1280x1024).  Fun, fun, fun in the sun out here in CA, USA.

Best, :m)

[Ted Roche]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Mike Wright  wrote:
> Thanks for that but I'm well aware that it's been EOL'd.  I was rather
> more curious as to why I've never seen this brought up (been rh'ing
> since redhat5.2 fit on a single cd in a red jacket a dozen years ago).

Since you had the problem in FireFox 3.0.x and still have it in 3.6.x,
apparently it's not a bug that's been fixed.

When you installed the most recent version of FireFox, did you do a
clean install, or did you overwrite the original troublesome version?
If the latter, I'd suspect there's something in your configuration,
plug-ins, add-ons, etc. that's causing the IFRAMEs not to render,
since other people here don't seem to have that problem.

Googling "firefox not displaying iframe" yields 5,600,000 pages with
suggestions.
> Hard to believe I'm the only person who ever noticed it ;/

There's a good chance something specific to your configuration is
causing the problem and that it's not related to Fedora nor the
version of FireFox you're using.
> Ever onward to f13 (networkmangler and no network connection; regression
> to 1280x1024).  Fun, fun, fun in the sun out here in CA, USA.

While it's a good idea to catch up with the currently supported
versions, if you're going to be bringing your configuration files
along, you may still be having the same problems. Before doing that,
I'd suggest you try a little more troubleshooting with the current
setup.

A couple of the pages from the Google search above suggest disabling
your add-ons and trying Safe Mode to see if that shows different
behavior.

[James McKenzie]

Mike Wright wrote:
> Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > Time to upgrade, I'm afraid. You'll get no support for Fedora 10. It was
> > end-of-lifed about six months ago. There are no more updates coming for
> > it, ever.
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/Fedora-EOL-Support
>
> Thanks for that but I'm well aware that it's been EOL'd.  I was rather 
> more curious as to why I've never seen this brought up (been rh'ing 
> since redhat5.2 fit on a single cd in a red jacket a dozen years ago).
>
> Here's an example of why I'm so curious.  While perusing
>  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/index.html
>
> with firefox on f10 I was surprised to find no TOC at the left.  Viewing 
> the source (I added line-feeds for readability purposes) I extracted this:
>
> <div id="tocdiv" class="toc">
>    <iframe id="tocframe" class="toc" src="./toc.html">
>      This is an iframe, to view it upgrade
>      your browser or enable iframe display.
>    </iframe>
> </div>

Interesting as iframe support has been in Firefox since 1.0....

Something smells 'fishy' here in that you cannot run this.

Are you blocking outgoing http 'questions' and the default browser for 
the site does not support iframes (that would be unusual in these times, 
but some text based browsers don't.)

James McKenzie

[Tim]

On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 15:36 -0700, Mike Wright wrote:
> <div id="tocdiv" class="toc">
>    <iframe id="tocframe" class="toc" src="./toc.html">
>      This is an iframe, to view it upgrade
>      your browser or enable iframe display.
>    </iframe>
> </div>
>
> The rendering problems I mentioned previously all involved <iframes/>.
> I've never found anything using edit->preferences that has anything to
> do with <iframes/>.

The /enable it/ instruction, is a generic instruction that many web
authors just bung between the iframe tags, without thinking about what
they're doing.  A better idea would have been for the page to *include*
the table of contents, or other links, in there; so that without the
iframe, someone could still navigate the page.

Some browsers have options for iframe rendering, but not all of them.
Firefox has an about:config option for frames, in general.  And some
filtering proxies have options for filtering out iframes, too.

[Mike Wright]

@jack, roger, stephen, aaron, tim, james, and any others I may have 
missed, thanks for all your efforts.

@list, sorry for the noise.

Once again the problem existed between the chair and the keyboard (pebcak).

I moved .mozilla out of the way and restarted firefox which recreated a 
clean .mozilla directory.  iframes worked.  So I went file by file, dir 
by dir looking for a difference that could explain what was happening.

Got to /chrome/ and found the file userContent.css where the resident 
genius had added the line iframe {display: none;}.

Sometime ago in the wayback I was experimenting with using iframes as a 
client/server communication channel and since there was no need to 
see/style them I hid them from myself (which also let me explore 
customizing firefox).  By the time I had finished with the experiments I 
had completely forgotten about userContent.css.

It's taken months to figure out what I'd done.  Sure made 
online-banking/bill-paying/etc. an endeavor every time I tried.  If it 
weren't for firebug I'd have been back to writing checks.  aaaargh!

Thankful, sorry, and embarrassed,
Mike Wright

[Roger K. Wells]

On 07/30/2010 02:12 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've come across some sites that only partially render when using
> firefox.  I had been using 3.0.15 so upgraded to 3.6.6 from Remi
> Collet's repository in hopes of better functionality but the problem
> persists.  Note that both of these render correctly when using Chrome.
>
> [1] has three columns.  Column one is the login box and it doesn't
> display.  By drilling down using firebug I can change the iframe to
> "display: block" and it appears and is functional.  I can't remember
> where I found the error but the complaint was that it couldn't find
> busybox.  I don't know if that is a dependency but it isn't part of the
> standard install; yum installing it had no effect (which I expected
> because I think there is also a javascript busybox).
>
> [2] has two columns.  The left one is the TOC but it doesn't display
> either.  I can't figure out that one but am inclined to believe it is
> also javascript related.
>
> Would some brave soul be so kind as to give these a whirl and let me
> know if it works for them?

These both appear the same on FireFox (3.6.7) & Chrome (version unknown).
uname: Linux rwells-fc 2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 6 
22:32:17 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

This may be totally unrelated but....
When watching the oil leak live feed on MSNBC ( 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/37412412#37412412) on FireFox 
the video freezes after a few seconds.  On Chrome it runs forever.
HTH,
roger wells
> Thanks,
> Mike Wright
>
> [1] https://servicing.capitalone.com/c1/login.aspx
> [2] http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/software/tws/twsguide.htm

[jack craig]

On 07/30/2010 11:12 AM, Mike Wright wrote:
> Thanks,
> Mike Wright
>
> [1] https://servicing.capitalone.com/c1/login.aspx
> [2] http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/software/tws/twsguide.htm

you might find firebug, a firefox debugger, to shed some light on your 
mystery...