I have tried with a dvd and with usb and the only place I got any success in installing Fedora 22 was in my virtual machine. It there something I am missing that is causing this problem with installing on my PC or my laptop. Please advise if there is a step I am missing in the download or the install process.
On 03/07/15 11:38, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
I have tried with a dvd and with usb and the only place I got any success in installing Fedora 22 was in my virtual machine. It there something I am missing that is causing this problem with installing on my PC or my laptop. Please advise if there is a step I am missing in the download or the install process.
The step you are missing is providing details of the problem.
On 03/07/15 11:38, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
I have tried with a dvd and with usb and the only place I got any success in installing Fedora 22 was in my virtual machine. It there something I am missing that is causing this problem with installing on my PC or my laptop. Please advise if there is a step I am missing in the download or the install process.
Oh.... And you're also on the wrong list for Fedora 22
I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you.
On 03/06/2015 08:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 03/07/15 11:38, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
I have tried with a dvd and with usb and the only place I got any success in installing Fedora 22 was in my virtual machine. It there something I am missing that is causing this problem with installing on my PC or my laptop. Please advise if there is a step I am missing in the download or the install process.
Oh.... And you're also on the wrong list for Fedora 22
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Lawrence E Graves lgraves95@gmail.com wrote:
I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you.
Try test@ list please.
There is an absolute minimum of 5 clicks to do a Fedora installation, generally there's quite a few more. There are distinctly two partitioning paths, automatic and custom (manual), you haven't said which of those you used, what error messages you received, the nature of the failure.
So instead of saying what hasn't happened, state what has happened with particular emphasis on the exact thing you did that behaved contrary to your expectations and why you expected it to behave differently. Someone must be able to follow your steps and reproduce the problem, so you need to be able to articulate the steps you've taken.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Chris Murphy lists@colorremedies.com wrote:
There is an absolute minimum of 5 clicks to do a Fedora installation,
Correction, 7. Root password & Quit/Reboot.
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 20:38 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
I have tried with a dvd and with usb and the only place I got any success in installing Fedora 22 was in my virtual machine. It there something I am missing that is causing this problem with installing on my PC or my laptop. Please advise if there is a step I am missing in the download or the install process.
F22 has not been released yet and won't be for several months. It's a test system and should be discussed on the Test list (the hint is in the name Alpha, and RC3, which means Release Candidate 3).
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Lawrence E Graves writes:
I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you.
If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car doesn't work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable answer?
I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora. I know something about cars but not about Fedora. I had to learn about cars. Thank you for your help.
On 03/07/2015 06:01 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Lawrence E Graves writes:
I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you.
If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car doesn't work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable answer?
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 06:42:36 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora. I know something about cars but not about Fedora. I had to learn about cars. Thank you for your help.
What file exactly did you download? How did you try to install F22 Alpha? What buttons did you click? What installation method did you choose? What response did you get? You refer to "this problem". What problem? An error message? You refer to success in a virtual machine. Describe in details what you did to install in that virtual machine. Do the same for your failed installation attempt.
Lawrence E Graves writes:
I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora. I know something about cars but not about Fedora.
Great! In that case: my car doesn't work. Do you know why?
I have a feeling it's going to be the same reason you can't install Fedora.
I had to learn about cars. Thank you foryour help.
As much as I, and others, would like to help, it's impossible to help you if you can't explain what the problem is. "Fedora doesn't install" is not an explanation.
On 03/07/2015 06:01 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Lawrence E Graves writes:
I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you.
If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car doesn't work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable answer?
-- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 & 6
On 03/07/2015 02:32 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Lawrence E Graves writes:
I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora. I know something about cars but not about Fedora.
Great! In that case: my car doesn't work. Do you know why?
I have a feeling it's going to be the same reason you can't install Fedora.
I had to learn about cars. Thankyou for your help.
As much as I, and others, would like to help, it's impossible to help you if you can't explain what the problem is. "Fedora doesn't install" is not an explanation.
On 03/07/2015 06:01 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Lawrence E Graves writes:
I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you.
If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car doesn't work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable answer?
I am going to tell you a little story and then I am through with this; I drive a 1996 Lincoln and day one day I went out to start it and it wouldn't. I worked on that car for about 3 days until I decided to call a tow truck to take it to the shop. When he went to move it, it started. The problem was the computer was stuck and all I had to do was take the battery post off for 5 minutes and fix it. I didn't have a clue asto what was wrong but some else figured it out because he had the experience with a car he had. Many of you claim to have knowledge of how to fix things but I have noticed that many of you have no experience because this is not the first time this has happen. I read the threads. I got a good download and made an install dvd and install usb drive, put either one in its proper place it comes up to the screen that says,"Fedora Live and then the countdown starts, when the countdown is over the screen goes blank. How would you report that? If anyone desires to respond, thank you.
-- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 & 6
Hi all, @Lawrence: if the screen goes black at boot time it seems it could a video issue, does your computer have a hybrid GPU setup? You can do "$ lspci | grep -i vga" from your running system. Also, you might try booting the ISO in the so-called 'safe' mode to reach the GUI.
I'm running F21 and my system has weird Intel/ATI setup. To boot the image I had to do so in safe mode, install the system that way (I miss a text installer!) then add the proper flags to the kernel line in /etc/default/grub in order to have both CPU working as expected and enjoy my screen max resolution.
As a side note, it would be good if you switch to the test ML as instructed to help keep things tidy.
HTH.
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Lawrence E Graves lgraves95@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/07/2015 02:32 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Lawrence E Graves writes:
I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora. I know something about cars but not about Fedora.
Great! In that case: my car doesn't work. Do you know why?
I have a feeling it's going to be the same reason you can't install Fedora.
I had to learn about cars. Thank you foryour help.
As much as I, and others, would like to help, it's impossible to help you if you can't explain what the problem is. "Fedora doesn't install" is not an explanation.
On 03/07/2015 06:01 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Lawrence E Graves writes:
I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you.
If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car doesn't work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable answer?
I am going to tell you a little story and then I am through with this; I drive a 1996 Lincoln and day one day I went out to start it and it wouldn't. I worked on that car for about 3 days until I decided to call a tow truck to take it to the shop. When he went to move it, it started. The problem was the computer was stuck and all I had to do was take the battery post off for 5 minutes and fix it. I didn't have a clue asto what was wrong but some else figured it out because he had the experience with a car he had. Many of you claim to have knowledge of how to fix things but I have noticed that many of you have no experience because this is not the first time this has happen. I read the threads. I got a good download and made an install dvd and install usb drive, put either one in its proper place it comes up to the screen that says,"Fedora Live and then the countdown starts, when the countdown is over the screen goes blank. How would you report that? If anyone desires to respond, thank you.
-- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 & 6
-- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 & 6
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On 03/07/2015 03:17 PM, Martin Cigorraga wrote:
Hi all, @Lawrence: if the screen goes black at boot time it seems it could a video issue, does your computer have a hybrid GPU setup? You can do "$ lspci | grep -i vga" from your running system. Also, you might try booting the ISO in the so-called 'safe' mode to reach the GUI.
I'm running F21 and my system has weird Intel/ATI setup. To boot the image I had to do so in safe mode, install the system that way (I miss a text installer!) then add the proper flags to the kernel line in /etc/default/grub in order to have both CPU working as expected and enjoy my screen max resolution.
As a side note, it would be good if you switch to the test ML as instructed to help keep things tidy.
HTH.
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Lawrence E Graves <lgraves95@gmail.com mailto:lgraves95@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/07/2015 02:32 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:Lawrence E Graves writes:I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora. I know something about cars but not about Fedora.Great! In that case: my car doesn't work. Do you know why? I have a feeling it's going to be the same reason you can't install Fedora.I had to learn about cars. Thank you for your help.As much as I, and others, would like to help, it's impossible to help you if you can't explain what the problem is. "Fedora doesn't install" is not an explanation.On 03/07/2015 06:01 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:Lawrence E Graves writes:I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you.If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car doesn't work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable answer? I am going to tell you a little story and then I am through with this; I drive a 1996 Lincoln and day one day I went out to start it and it wouldn't. I worked on that car for about 3 days until I decided to call a tow truck to take it to the shop. When he went to move it, it started. The problem was the computer was stuck and all I had to do was take the battery post off for 5 minutes and fix it. I didn't have a clue asto what was wrong but some else figured it out because he had the experience with a car he had. Many of you claim to have knowledge of how to fix things but I have noticed that many of you have no experience because this is not the first time this has happen. I read the threads. I got a good download and made an install dvd and install usb drive, put either one in its proper place it comes up to the screen that says,"Fedora Live and then the countdown starts, when the countdown is over the screen goes blank. How would you report that? If anyone desires to respond, thank you.My PC has a nvidia card and my laptop has onboard video. That's what threw me. Thank you, that worked. I just got it started to install. -- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 & 6-- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 & 6 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org-- -Martin
On 7 March 2015 at 13:42, Lawrence E Graves lgraves95@gmail.com wrote:
I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora.
In that case you might want to learn in the relatively stable environment of F21 rather than an alpha version of the next release, which is almost guaranteed to be problematic.
poc
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Lawrence E Graves lgraves95@gmail.com wrote:
I got a good download and made an install dvd and install usb drive, put either one in its proper place it comes up to the screen that says,"Fedora Live and then the countdown starts, when the countdown is over the screen goes blank. How would you report that?
Exactly like you just did.
The thing is, you've actually just told us a lot. You shouldn't be using Alpha at all, so I advise you to stop and test Fedora 21 final release instead. Alpha testers know they need to go to the Troubleshooting menu and try basic graphics mode first in such a case.
It really isn't fair to come on a non-test list and ask about Alpha test build behavior which could very well be buggy in a way no one on this list can help with. If you have problems with Fedora 21 final, this list is a good place to be. But still you really should have poked the thing right in front of you, the Troubleshooting menu, with a stick, before poking people on a mailing list. It's really that basic.
I hear you but this is how I have learn to run and like linux. I build computers and am not good with software part. The only way to learn is to get busy. I do run 21 on my PC but I use my laptop to learn how to run the next release.
On 03/07/2015 05:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On 7 March 2015 at 13:42, Lawrence E Graves <lgraves95@gmail.com mailto:lgraves95@gmail.com> wrote:
I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora.In that case you might want to learn in the relatively stable environment of F21 rather than an alpha version of the next release, which is almost guaranteed to be problematic.
poc
On 8 March 2015 at 01:58, Lawrence E Graves lgraves95@gmail.com wrote:
I hear you but this is how I have learn to run and like linux. I build computers and am not good with software part. The only way to learn is to get busy. I do run 21 on my PC but I use my laptop to learn how to run the next release.
In my opinion you're going about this the wrong way (walk before you try to run). But it's your decision. Just kindly direct your questions to the Test list, which is the appropriate place for them.
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I hear you. Thank you and I will from now on since I have learned something from all of this. Have a blessed day.
On 03/08/2015 05:06 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On 8 March 2015 at 01:58, Lawrence E Graves <lgraves95@gmail.com mailto:lgraves95@gmail.com> wrote:
I hear you but this is how I have learn to run and like linux. I build computers and am not good with software part. The only way to learn is to get busy. I do run 21 on my PC but I use my laptop to learn how to run the next release.In my opinion you're going about this the wrong way (walk before you try to run). But it's your decision. Just kindly direct your questions to the Test list, which is the appropriate place for them.
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