Grub.conf example for anyone interested in dual or in this case tri boot.

[Wade Chandler]

#BEGIN grub.conf
default=0
timeout=10
splashimage=(hd1,2)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2174.nptl)
        root (hd1,2)
        kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ hdd=ide-scsi
        initrd /boot/initrd-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl.img
title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2149.nptl)
        root (hd1,2)
        kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2149.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ hdd=ide-scsi
        initrd /boot/initrd-2.4.22-1.2149.nptl.img
title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2129.nptl)
        root (hd1,2)
        kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2129.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ hdd=ide-scsi
        initrd /boot/initrd-2.4.22-1.2129.nptl.img
title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2115.nptl)
        root (hd1,2)
        kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ hdd=ide-scsi
        initrd /boot/initrd-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl.img
title Windows XP
        rootnoverify (hd0,2)
        chainloader +1
title BEOS
        rootnoverify (hd0,0)
        chainloader +1
#END grub.conf
I have many back kernels in my install which I have not cleaned up as of 
yet, but here is still a working example.  I boot Fedora, XP, and BEOS.  
I have never had any problems.

Wade

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Wade Chandler um 06:42:

[ snipped grub.conf ]
> I have many back kernels in my install which I have not cleaned up as of 
> yet, but here is still a working example.  I boot Fedora, XP, and BEOS.  
> I have never had any problems.
>
> Wade

I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one
who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration
without such an example.

You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and
explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).

Alexander

[Harry Putnam]

Alexander Dalloz  writes:
> > Wade
>
> I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one
> who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration
> without such an example.
>
> You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and
> explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).

I heartily disagree with this.... Actual examples are often the MOST
usefull learning tool.  The fact it isn't commented may be slightly
lamentable but not really a reason to call Wade on the carpet.

What he showed could nearly be cut an pasted for use.  That is a good thing.

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Harry Putnam um 14:02:
> Alexander Dalloz  writes:
> > > Wade
> >
> > I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one
> > who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration
> > without such an example.
> >
> > You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and
> > explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).
>
> I heartily disagree with this.... Actual examples are often the MOST
> usefull learning tool.  The fact it isn't commented may be slightly
> lamentable but not really a reason to call Wade on the carpet.
>
> What he showed could nearly be cut an pasted for use.  That is a good thing.

Sorry, you couldn't copy&paste - maybe just the fact as he did not
describe how his harddrive is partitioned and he did not explain to
users what root (hd1,2) and the others would mean and cause. The example
is not self-explanatory.

Alexander

[Wade Chandler]

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Wade Chandler um 06:42:
>
> [ snipped grub.conf ]
> > I have many back kernels in my install which I have not cleaned up as of 
> > yet, but here is still a working example.  I boot Fedora, XP, and BEOS.  
> > I have never had any problems.
> >
> > Wade
>
> I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one
> who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration
> without such an example.
>
> You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and
> explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).
>
> Alexander

I really don't comment things like this at times because I believe I 
posted in a previous email
info grub

If I were to just post an example and then explain things which are 
already in info then in my own opinion (my own) I have done an injustice 
to someone.  If I can give them a working example and then they can look 
up the stuff in their documentation I may be helping them better 
understand their system.  I should have posted at the end of my email....
for more info do:
info grub
from the command line.  Apologies.  I just don't believe in complete 
handouts.  I would rather help someone help themselves.

Wade

[Wade Chandler]

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Harry Putnam um 14:02:
> > Alexander Dalloz  writes:
> > > > Wade
> > >
> > > I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one
> > > who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration
> > > without such an example.
> > >
> > > You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and
> > > explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).
> >
> > I heartily disagree with this.... Actual examples are often the MOST
> > usefull learning tool.  The fact it isn't commented may be slightly
> > lamentable but not really a reason to call Wade on the carpet.
> >
> > What he showed could nearly be cut an pasted for use.  That is a good thing.
>
> Sorry, you couldn't copy&paste - maybe just the fact as he did not
> describe how his harddrive is partitioned and he did not explain to
> users what root (hd1,2) and the others would mean and cause. The example
> is not self-explanatory.
>
> Alexander

Alexander,

This is just my opinion.  This conversation isn't going anywhere.  I 
just posted my conf file to the list.  No need for remarks that aren't 
going to be very helpful.  The file show's a working example.  Let's let 
the users who can't figure it out ask a question about the file when 
they decide it is useless or not.  Deciding for them is nothing shy of 
holding them back and adding uncertainty to their situation.  Users 
mainly ask is it possible.  I have a feeling most people trying to get 
dual boot to work on a PC are more than capable of understanding 
something as simple as Grub with a nudge in the right direction.  If 
they are not, they'll ask.   I wasn't writing a tutorial.  The info file 
has enough of that.

info grub

for anyone needing more information.

Wade

Grub.conf example for dual disk dual boot (Was re: Grub.conf...)

[Rick Johnson]

I'll add one to the mix of controversy. The following grub.conf allows 
me to dual boot onto Windows 2000, with two separate SCSI disks. It does 
disk order swapping so that Win2k will boot properly. Win2k is on the 
"second" SCSI disk.

# Global Section
default=0
timeout=8
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
# Password string here removed
password --md5 [md5hash here, use grub-md5-crypt]

# Linux - Current kernel only - I'm brave
title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2174.nptl)
# Set root as first HDD
  root (hd0,0)
# Acpi is on, use framebuffer 1024x768x16bit, use Red Hat Graphical Boot
  kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ acpi=on vga=791 rhgb
  initrd /initrd-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl.img

# Windows 2000, only when neccesary :-)
title Windows 2000
# Reverse SCSI disk order so that Win2k sees the second SCSI disk as C:
# This allows a Linux/Grub HDD to be added and set as bootable (first),
# while still preserving the MBR/Win2k installation on the second
# (original) HDD.
  map (hd0) (hd1)
  map (hd1) (hd0)
# Set root for Grub as second HDD (hd1)
  rootnoverify (hd1,0)
# Load Windows Bootloader to start OS
  chainloader +1

Enjoy,
-Rick

[Tom Mitchell]

On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 12:35:49PM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Wade Chandler um 06:42:
>
> [ snipped grub.conf ]
> > I have many back kernels in my install which I have not cleaned up as of 
> > yet, but here is still a working example.  I boot Fedora, XP, and BEOS.  
> > I have never had any problems.
> >
> > Wade
>
> I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one
> who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration
> without such an example.

This all depends on audience.

Most programmers do not comment on the language construct.
Many beginners (and some debuggers) do...

In a mixed group like this, a working example file is a jumping off
place.  Beginners should RTFM and then feel invited to ask questions.

In itself reading the fine manuals takes practice and will generate
questions and illuminate the true word that F stands for.

So what loop construct always executes once.  What are the implications
in this context of a loop if it depends on or generates side effects.

[Eric Schroeder]

Wade,

I'm just getting caught up on my email, and came across this thread.

I don't see anything wrong with what you did.  I've taught RH to complete
newbies (just learned how to double-click in the last 6 months).  I do give
them much more detail, but they are a known quantity.  This mailing list is
not.  The people on the list are self-starters, looking for some direction.
If the person needed more detail, they will ask.  Some people are hungry
learners, and want to figure out things on their own.  It's a bit like not
wanting to know the ending of the movie.

-Eric Schroeder
CCNA, RHCE(809003614507937)

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Subject: Re: Grub.conf example for anyone interested in dual or in this
case tri boot.

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Harry Putnam um 14:02:
> > Alexander Dalloz  writes:
> > > > Wade
> > >
> > > I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one
> > > who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration
> > > without such an example.
> > >
> > > You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and
> > > explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).
> >
> > I heartily disagree with this.... Actual examples are often the MOST
> > usefull learning tool.  The fact it isn't commented may be slightly
> > lamentable but not really a reason to call Wade on the carpet.
> >
> > What he showed could nearly be cut an pasted for use.  That is a good

thing.
> Sorry, you couldn't copy&paste - maybe just the fact as he did not
> describe how his harddrive is partitioned and he did not explain to
> users what root (hd1,2) and the others would mean and cause. The example
> is not self-explanatory.
>
> Alexander

Alexander,

This is just my opinion.  This conversation isn't going anywhere.  I
just posted my conf file to the list.  No need for remarks that aren't
going to be very helpful.  The file show's a working example.  Let's let
the users who can't figure it out ask a question about the file when
they decide it is useless or not.  Deciding for them is nothing shy of
holding them back and adding uncertainty to their situation.  Users
mainly ask is it possible.  I have a feeling most people trying to get
dual boot to work on a PC are more than capable of understanding
something as simple as Grub with a nudge in the right direction.  If
they are not, they'll ask.   I wasn't writing a tutorial.  The info file
has enough of that.

info grub

for anyone needing more information.

Wade

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