#BEGIN grub.conf default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd1,2)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2174.nptl) root (hd1,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ hdd=ide-scsi initrd /boot/initrd-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl.img title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2149.nptl) root (hd1,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2149.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ hdd=ide-scsi initrd /boot/initrd-2.4.22-1.2149.nptl.img title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2129.nptl) root (hd1,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2129.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ hdd=ide-scsi initrd /boot/initrd-2.4.22-1.2129.nptl.img title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2115.nptl) root (hd1,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ hdd=ide-scsi initrd /boot/initrd-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl.img title Windows XP rootnoverify (hd0,2) chainloader +1 title BEOS rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 #END grub.conf I have many back kernels in my install which I have not cleaned up as of yet, but here is still a working example. I boot Fedora, XP, and BEOS. I have never had any problems.
Wade
Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Wade Chandler um 06:42:
[ snipped grub.conf ]
I have many back kernels in my install which I have not cleaned up as of yet, but here is still a working example. I boot Fedora, XP, and BEOS. I have never had any problems.
Wade
I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration without such an example.
You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).
Alexander
Alexander Dalloz alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefeld.de writes:
Wade
I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration without such an example.
You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).
I heartily disagree with this.... Actual examples are often the MOST usefull learning tool. The fact it isn't commented may be slightly lamentable but not really a reason to call Wade on the carpet.
What he showed could nearly be cut an pasted for use. That is a good thing.
Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Harry Putnam um 14:02:
Alexander Dalloz alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefeld.de writes:
Wade
I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration without such an example.
You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).
I heartily disagree with this.... Actual examples are often the MOST usefull learning tool. The fact it isn't commented may be slightly lamentable but not really a reason to call Wade on the carpet.
What he showed could nearly be cut an pasted for use. That is a good thing.
Sorry, you couldn't copy&paste - maybe just the fact as he did not describe how his harddrive is partitioned and he did not explain to users what root (hd1,2) and the others would mean and cause. The example is not self-explanatory.
Alexander
Alexander Dalloz wrote:
Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Wade Chandler um 06:42:
[ snipped grub.conf ]
I have many back kernels in my install which I have not cleaned up as of yet, but here is still a working example. I boot Fedora, XP, and BEOS. I have never had any problems.
Wade
I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration without such an example.
You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).
Alexander
I really don't comment things like this at times because I believe I posted in a previous email info grub
If I were to just post an example and then explain things which are already in info then in my own opinion (my own) I have done an injustice to someone. If I can give them a working example and then they can look up the stuff in their documentation I may be helping them better understand their system. I should have posted at the end of my email.... for more info do: info grub from the command line. Apologies. I just don't believe in complete handouts. I would rather help someone help themselves.
Wade
Alexander Dalloz wrote:
Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Harry Putnam um 14:02:
Alexander Dalloz alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefeld.de writes:
Wade
I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration without such an example.
You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).
I heartily disagree with this.... Actual examples are often the MOST usefull learning tool. The fact it isn't commented may be slightly lamentable but not really a reason to call Wade on the carpet.
What he showed could nearly be cut an pasted for use. That is a good thing.
Sorry, you couldn't copy&paste - maybe just the fact as he did not describe how his harddrive is partitioned and he did not explain to users what root (hd1,2) and the others would mean and cause. The example is not self-explanatory.
Alexander
Alexander,
This is just my opinion. This conversation isn't going anywhere. I just posted my conf file to the list. No need for remarks that aren't going to be very helpful. The file show's a working example. Let's let the users who can't figure it out ask a question about the file when they decide it is useless or not. Deciding for them is nothing shy of holding them back and adding uncertainty to their situation. Users mainly ask is it possible. I have a feeling most people trying to get dual boot to work on a PC are more than capable of understanding something as simple as Grub with a nudge in the right direction. If they are not, they'll ask. I wasn't writing a tutorial. The info file has enough of that.
info grub
for anyone needing more information.
Wade
I'll add one to the mix of controversy. The following grub.conf allows me to dual boot onto Windows 2000, with two separate SCSI disks. It does disk order swapping so that Win2k will boot properly. Win2k is on the "second" SCSI disk.
# Global Section default=0 timeout=8 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz # Password string here removed password --md5 [md5hash here, use grub-md5-crypt]
# Linux - Current kernel only - I'm brave title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2174.nptl) # Set root as first HDD root (hd0,0) # Acpi is on, use framebuffer 1024x768x16bit, use Red Hat Graphical Boot kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ acpi=on vga=791 rhgb initrd /initrd-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl.img
# Windows 2000, only when neccesary :-) title Windows 2000 # Reverse SCSI disk order so that Win2k sees the second SCSI disk as C: # This allows a Linux/Grub HDD to be added and set as bootable (first), # while still preserving the MBR/Win2k installation on the second # (original) HDD. map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) # Set root for Grub as second HDD (hd1) rootnoverify (hd1,0) # Load Windows Bootloader to start OS chainloader +1
Enjoy, -Rick
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 12:35:49PM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote:
Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Wade Chandler um 06:42:
[ snipped grub.conf ]
I have many back kernels in my install which I have not cleaned up as of yet, but here is still a working example. I boot Fedora, XP, and BEOS. I have never had any problems.
Wade
I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration without such an example.
This all depends on audience.
Most programmers do not comment on the language construct. Many beginners (and some debuggers) do...
In a mixed group like this, a working example file is a jumping off place. Beginners should RTFM and then feel invited to ask questions.
In itself reading the fine manuals takes practice and will generate questions and illuminate the true word that F stands for.
So what loop construct always executes once. What are the implications in this context of a loop if it depends on or generates side effects.
Wade,
I'm just getting caught up on my email, and came across this thread.
I don't see anything wrong with what you did. I've taught RH to complete newbies (just learned how to double-click in the last 6 months). I do give them much more detail, but they are a known quantity. This mailing list is not. The people on the list are self-starters, looking for some direction. If the person needed more detail, they will ask. Some people are hungry learners, and want to figure out things on their own. It's a bit like not wanting to know the ending of the movie.
-Eric Schroeder CCNA, RHCE(809003614507937)
-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Wade Chandler Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:35 AM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Grub.conf example for anyone interested in dual or in this case tri boot.
Alexander Dalloz wrote:
Am Fr, den 27.02.2004 schrieb Harry Putnam um 14:02:
Alexander Dalloz alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefeld.de writes:
Wade
I feel such an uncommented example file does not help anyone. The one who understands what he sees could have made his grub configuration without such an example.
You are welcome with your help Wade, but please be more verbose and explain to people what the settings do and what they mean (not for me).
I heartily disagree with this.... Actual examples are often the MOST usefull learning tool. The fact it isn't commented may be slightly lamentable but not really a reason to call Wade on the carpet.
What he showed could nearly be cut an pasted for use. That is a good
thing.
Sorry, you couldn't copy&paste - maybe just the fact as he did not describe how his harddrive is partitioned and he did not explain to users what root (hd1,2) and the others would mean and cause. The example is not self-explanatory.
Alexander
Alexander,
This is just my opinion. This conversation isn't going anywhere. I just posted my conf file to the list. No need for remarks that aren't going to be very helpful. The file show's a working example. Let's let the users who can't figure it out ask a question about the file when they decide it is useless or not. Deciding for them is nothing shy of holding them back and adding uncertainty to their situation. Users mainly ask is it possible. I have a feeling most people trying to get dual boot to work on a PC are more than capable of understanding something as simple as Grub with a nudge in the right direction. If they are not, they'll ask. I wasn't writing a tutorial. The info file has enough of that.
info grub
for anyone needing more information.
Wade
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