How to configure yum to not check for free inodes?

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi,

I am using Fedora-19-Alpha with nilfs2 on /.
While everything worked great with Fedora 17, the updated version of
yum also check for free inodes before executing the transaction:
> Transaction check error:
>  installing package ..... needs 40 inodes on the / filesystem

Which is just plain wong in case of nilfs, as it has no inode limit.

Is there any way to disable that check? diskspacecheck=0 in
/etc/yum.conf didn't help unfortunately :/

Thank you in advance, Clemens

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi again,

I found out that the issue is within rpm, not yum.
When installing rpm packages with the "--ignoresize" option, rpm
installs fine while otherwise it complains about not enough available
inodes.

What I am looking for is a way to make yum pass "--ignoresize" to rpm
automatically. Is this possible somehow?

Thank you in advance, Clemens

2013/4/24 Clemens Eisserer :
> Hi,
>
> I am using Fedora-19-Alpha with nilfs2 on /.
> While everything worked great with Fedora 17, the updated version of
> yum also check for free inodes before executing the transaction:
> > Transaction check error:
> >  installing package ..... needs 40 inodes on the / filesystem
>
> Which is just plain wong in case of nilfs, as it has no inode limit.
>
> Is there any way to disable that check? diskspacecheck=0 in
> /etc/yum.conf didn't help unfortunately :/
>
> Thank you in advance, Clemens

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 04/24/2013 03:06 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I found out that the issue is within rpm, not yum.
> When installing rpm packages with the "--ignoresize" option, rpm
> installs fine while otherwise it complains about not enough available
> inodes.
>
> What I am looking for is a way to make yum pass "--ignoresize" to rpm
> automatically. Is this possible somehow?

I'd recommend you to file a bug against rpm and leave it to the 
rpm-maintainer to respond.

However, I'd guess the issue you are facing actually is an issue with 
some fs-relates syscall underneath misbehaving.

Ralf

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi Ralf,
> I'd recommend you to file a bug against rpm and leave it to the
> rpm-maintainer to respond.

Well, I guess that would take its time ... but I would like to have a
useable system now ;)
> However, I'd guess the issue you are facing actually is an issue with some
> fs-relates syscall underneath misbehaving.

Actually its not misbehaving, its just about different expectations -
and RPM even provides an option (--ignoresize) to turn off those
checks.
However, I haven't found a way to make yum pass that option to rpm, so
for now I am forced to install RPMs manually instead of using yum :(

Thanks, Clemens

[Reindl Harald]

Am 24.04.2013 16:16, schrieb Clemens Eisserer:
> > I'd recommend you to file a bug against rpm and leave it to the
> > rpm-maintainer to respond.
>
> Well, I guess that would take its time ... but I would like to have a
> useable system now ;)
> > However, I'd guess the issue you are facing actually is an issue with some
> > fs-relates syscall underneath misbehaving.
>
> Actually its not misbehaving, its just about different expectations -
> and RPM even provides an option (--ignoresize) to turn off those
> checks.
> However, I haven't found a way to make yum pass that option to rpm, so
> for now I am forced to install RPMs manually instead of using yum :(

are you sure it is a good idea to chosse a non-supported
filesystem for the ROOTFS at all?

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi Harald,
> are you sure it is a good idea to chosse a non-supported
> filesystem for the ROOTFS at all?

If I wouldn't be - I wouldn't have spent quite some time to get it working...

Do you know a method to pass command-line arguments to RPM through yum?

Regards, Clemens

[David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud)]

Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy <at> gmail.com> writes:
> Hi again,
>
> I found out that the issue is within rpm, not yum.
> When installing rpm packages with the "--ignoresize" option, rpm
> installs fine while otherwise it complains about not enough available
> inodes.
>
> What I am looking for is a way to make yum pass "--ignoresize" to rpm
> automatically. Is this possible somehow?
>
> Thank you in advance, Clemens
>
> 2013/4/24 Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy <at> gmail.com>:

<SNIP>
As a workaround you can set rpm options through /etc/rpmrc.  You'll have to
do the research to find out how to set it but it would then be used for all
rpm transactions.

Cheers,
Dave

[poma]

On 24.04.2013 16:58, David G. Miller wrote:
> Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy <at> gmail.com> writes:

[…]
> > What I am looking for is a way to make yum pass "--ignoresize" to rpm
> > automatically. Is this possible somehow?
> >
> > Thank you in advance, Clemens
> >
> > 2013/4/24 Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy <at> gmail.com>:
>
> <SNIP>
> As a workaround you can set rpm options through /etc/rpmrc.  You'll have to
> do the research to find out how to set it but it would then be used for all
> rpm transactions.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave

rpmbuild != rpm :)

poma

[poma]

On 24.04.2013 16:36, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Hi Harald,
> > are you sure it is a good idea to chosse a non-supported
> > filesystem for the ROOTFS at all?
>
> If I wouldn't be - I wouldn't have spent quite some time to get it working...
>
> Do you know a method to pass command-line arguments to RPM through yum?
>
> Regards, Clemens

When you understand the very essence of the yum, you won't ask it in the
first place. :)

poma

[Panu Matilainen]

On 04/24/2013 03:35 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using Fedora-19-Alpha with nilfs2 on /.
> While everything worked great with Fedora 17, the updated version of
> yum also check for free inodes before executing the transaction:
> > Transaction check error:
> >   installing package ..... needs 40 inodes on the / filesystem

Rpm was always supposed to check for sufficient inodes in addition to 
disk space but that check has been broken for 10+ years. In rpm >= 4.11 
it actually does something again, hence the different behavior.
> Which is just plain wong in case of nilfs, as it has no inode limit.

What does 'stat -f /' return on that system?
> Is there any way to disable that check? diskspacecheck=0 in
> /etc/yum.conf didn't help unfortunately :/

Yum's 'diskspacecheck=0' appears to be broken, it wouldn't hurt to file 
a bug about it. In addition to it being apparently broken, it doesn't 
even try to enable the inode problem filtering which would be needed in 
your case.

- Panu -

[Panu Matilainen]

On 04/24/2013 10:40 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On 04/24/2013 03:35 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am using Fedora-19-Alpha with nilfs2 on /.
> > While everything worked great with Fedora 17, the updated version of
> > yum also check for free inodes before executing the transaction:
> > > Transaction check error:
> > >   installing package ..... needs 40 inodes on the / filesystem
>
> Rpm was always supposed to check for sufficient inodes in addition to
> disk space but that check has been broken for 10+ years. In rpm >= 4.11
> it actually does something again, hence the different behavior.
> > Which is just plain wong in case of nilfs, as it has no inode limit.
>
> What does 'stat -f /' return on that system?
> > Is there any way to disable that check? diskspacecheck=0 in
> > /etc/yum.conf didn't help unfortunately :/
>
> Yum's 'diskspacecheck=0' appears to be broken, it wouldn't hurt to file
> a bug about it. In addition to it being apparently broken, it doesn't
> even try to enable the inode problem filtering which would be needed in
> your case.

Well, duh. It seems that it was me who broke yum's diskspacecheck=0 with 
a seemingly completely unrelated change so I suppose I get to fix it 
too. As a first-aid, this seems to resurrect it (and yes I'll take this 
to yum upstream too):

--- a/yum/depsolve.py
+++ b/yum/depsolve.py
@@ -150,6 +150,10 @@ class Depsolve(object):
              else:
                  self.logger.critical(_('Invalid tsflag in config file: 
%s'), fl

+        if not self.conf.diskspacecheck:
+            self._add_prob_flags(rpm.RPMPROB_FILTER_DISKSPACE,
+                                 rpm.RPMPROB_FILTER_DISKNODES)
+
          probfilter = 0
          for flag in self.tsInfo.probFilterFlags:
              probfilter |= flag

- Panu -

[David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud)]

poma <pomidorabelisima <at> gmail.com> writes:
> On 24.04.2013 16:58, David G. Miller wrote:
> > Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> […]
> > > What I am looking for is a way to make yum pass "--ignoresize" to rpm
> > > automatically. Is this possible somehow?
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance, Clemens
> > >
> > > 2013/4/24 Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy <at> gmail.com>:
> >
> > <SNIP>
> > As a workaround you can set rpm options through /etc/rpmrc.  You'll have to
> > do the research to find out how to set it but it would then be used for all
> > rpm transactions.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave
>
> rpmbuild != rpm :)
>
> poma

Actually, /etc/rpmrc is used by rpm; not rpmbuild.  Frpmthe rpm man page:

FILES
   rpmrc Configuration
       /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
       /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc
       /etc/rpmrc
       ~/.rpmrc

and from /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc:

[root@bend ~]# cat /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
#/*! \page config_rpmrc Default configuration: /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
# \verbatim
#
# This is a global RPM configuration file. All changes made here will
# be lost when the rpm package is upgraded. Any per-system configuration
# should be added to /etc/rpmrc, while per-user configuration should
# be added to ~/.rpmrc.
#
#############################################################

Both rpm and rpmbuild use the same rc files.  Probably not the best design
but take it up with the rpm project folks.

Cheers,
Dave

[poma]

On 24.04.2013 22:51, David G. Miller wrote:
> poma <pomidorabelisima <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > On 24.04.2013 16:58, David G. Miller wrote:
> > > Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy <at> gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > […]
> > > > What I am looking for is a way to make yum pass "--ignoresize" to rpm
> > > > automatically. Is this possible somehow?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you in advance, Clemens
> > > >
> > > > 2013/4/24 Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy <at> gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > <SNIP>
> > > As a workaround you can set rpm options through /etc/rpmrc.  You'll have to
> > > do the research to find out how to set it but it would then be used for all
> > > rpm transactions.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Dave
> >
> > rpmbuild != rpm :)
> >
> > poma
>
> Actually, /etc/rpmrc is used by rpm; not rpmbuild.  Frpmthe rpm man page:
>
> FILES
>    rpmrc Configuration
>        /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
>        /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc
>        /etc/rpmrc
>        ~/.rpmrc

man 8 rpmbuild :)
…
   GENERAL OPTIONS
   …
       --rcfile FILELIST
              … The default FILELIST is

/usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc:/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc:/etc/rpmrc:~/.rpmrc.
…
FILES
   rpmrc Configuration
       /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
       /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc
       /etc/rpmrc
       ~/.rpmrc
…
> and from /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc:
>
> [root@bend ~]# cat /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
> #/*! \page config_rpmrc Default configuration: /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
> # \verbatim
> #
> # This is a global RPM configuration file. All changes made here will
> # be lost when the rpm package is upgraded. Any per-system configuration
> # should be added to /etc/rpmrc, while per-user configuration should
> # be added to ~/.rpmrc.
> #
> #############################################################

You left out what is actually used - *optflags* & *arch* directives -
to guess what. :)
> Both rpm and rpmbuild use the same rc files.  Probably not the best design
> but take it up with the rpm project folks.

For some of the 'rpm' command options - *maybe* once upon a time. :)
It doesn't work even with the RPM version 4.3.3 - EL4. ;)

i.e. - RPM version 4.10.3.1
http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-install-additional-options.html#S2-RPM-INS...

/etc/rpmrc:
excludedocs: 1

# rpm -i dstat-0.7.2-9.fc18.noarch.rpm
error: bad option 'excludedocs' at /etc/rpmrc:1

# rpm -e dstat
error: bad option 'excludedocs' at /etc/rpmrc:1

# yum install ./dstat-0.7.2-9.fc18.noarch.rpm
error: bad option 'excludedocs' at /etc/rpmrc:1
…

# yum erase dstat
error: bad option 'excludedocs' at /etc/rpmrc:1
…

But do work with i.e.

/etc/rpm/macros.excludedocs:
%_excludedocs 1

# rpm -qs dstat | grep "not installed"
not installed /usr/share/doc/dstat-0.7.2
…
not installed /usr/share/man/man1/dstat.1.gz

or

/etc/yum.conf:
tsflags=nodocs

Take into account that certain(rpm) directives don't work that way, anyway.

poma

[Panu Matilainen]

On 04/24/2013 10:40 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On 04/24/2013 03:35 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> > Which is just plain wong in case of nilfs, as it has no inode limit.
>
> What does 'stat -f /' return on that system?

Well this is a strange beast:

[root@turre mnt]# stat -f .
   File: "."
     ID: 70100000000 Namelen: 255     Type: nilfs
Block size: 4096       Fundamental block size: 4096
Blocks: Total: 49151      Free: 40960      Available: 24576
Inodes: Total: 2          Free: 0
[root@turre mnt]# touch 1
[root@turre mnt]# stat -f .
   File: "."
     ID: 70100000000 Namelen: 255     Type: nilfs
Block size: 4096       Fundamental block size: 4096
Blocks: Total: 49151      Free: 40960      Available: 24576
Inodes: Total: 3          Free: 0
[root@turre mnt]# touch 2
[root@turre mnt]# stat -f .
   File: "."
     ID: 70100000000 Namelen: 255     Type: nilfs
Block size: 4096       Fundamental block size: 4096
Blocks: Total: 49151      Free: 40960      Available: 24576
Inodes: Total: 4          Free: 0
[root@turre mnt]#

Advertising unlimited inodes with 0 available is an ... interesting 
choice. Chances are rpm is not the only thing getting upset by that.

- Panu -