pipewire configuration for f34

[Jack Craig]

in trying to fathom my loss of audio out, i keep seeing reference to files
in /etc/pipewire/  where my install has  nothing!

What am I missing? thx!

[Jonathan Billings]

On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 10:58:05PM -0700, Jack Craig wrote:
> in trying to fathom my loss of audio out, i keep seeing reference to
> files 
> in /etc/pipewire/  where my install has  nothing!
>
> What am I missing? thx!

In the very top of /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire.conf:

# Daemon config file for PipeWire version "0.3.34" #
#
# Copy and edit this file in /etc/pipewire for systemwide changes
# or in ~/.config/pipewire for local changes.

So it's using a fairly common standard these days, having packaged
settings in /usr/share/$SOFTWARE and local config changes in
/etc/$SOFTWARE and in ~/.config/$SOFTWARE for per-user settings.

[Jack Craig]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 5:19 AM Jonathan Billings 
wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 10:58:05PM -0700, Jack Craig wrote:
> > in trying to fathom my loss of audio out, i keep seeing reference to
> > files
> > in /etc/pipewire/  where my install has  nothing!
> >
> > What am I missing? thx!
>
> In the very top of /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire.conf:
>
> # Daemon config file for PipeWire version "0.3.34" #
> #
> # Copy and edit this file in /etc/pipewire for systemwide changes
> # or in ~/.config/pipewire for local changes.
>
> So it's using a fairly common standard these days, having packaged
> settings in /usr/share/$SOFTWARE and local config changes in
> /etc/$SOFTWARE and in ~/.config/$SOFTWARE for per-user settings.

*Thanks Jonathan.* everyone, apparently, but me!!!

can you imagine using fedora and Not knowing that?! Yikes!!
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[Joe Zeff]

On 9/7/21 11:50 AM, Jack Craig wrote:
> *Thanks Jonathan.* everyone, apparently, but me!!!
>
> can you imagine using fedora and Not knowing that?! Yikes!!

Yes, I can, because most users will never need that.  If everybody 
needed that to get pipewire working, it would have been a showstopper 
bug and fixed before the package was released.

[Jack Craig]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:42 AM Joe Zeff  wrote:
> On 9/7/21 11:50 AM, Jack Craig wrote:
> > *Thanks Jonathan.* everyone, apparently, but me!!!
> >
> > can you imagine using fedora and Not knowing that?! Yikes!!
>
> Yes, I can, because most users will never need that.  If everybody
> needed that to get pipewire working, it would have been a showstopper
> bug and fixed before the package was released.'?

any idea why i am the lucky 'winner '??

thx again,...
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[Joe Zeff]

On 9/7/21 1:18 PM, Jack Craig wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:42 AM Joe Zeff <[e-mail] 
> > wrote:
> On 9/7/21 11:50 AM, Jack Craig wrote:
>  > *Thanks Jonathan.* everyone, apparently, but me!!!
>  >
>  > can you imagine using fedora and Not knowing that?! Yikes!!
>
> Yes, I can, because most users will never need that.  If everybody
> needed that to get pipewire working, it would have been a showstopper
> bug and fixed before the package was released.'?
>
>
> any idea why i am the lucky 'winner '??

Tish happens.  Seriously, you might want to submit a bugzilla against 
pipewire, listing the workaround so that the devs will know what it is 
that doesn't always work right because if nobody reports it, it can't 
get fixed.

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 13:34:19 -0600
Joe Zeff wrote:
> > any idea why i am the lucky 'winner '??
>
> Tish happens.  Seriously, you might want to submit a bugzilla against 
> pipewire, listing the workaround so that the devs will know what it is 
> that doesn't always work right because if nobody reports it, it can't 
> get fixed.

Maybe try booting from the f34 workstation live image and see if it
can get sound out of the box. If it can, something was confused on
your installation (which can certainly happen on an upgrade versus
a clean install).

[Jack Craig]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 12:42 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 13:34:19 -0600
> Joe Zeff wrote:
> > > any idea why i am the lucky 'winner '??
> >
> > Tish happens.  Seriously, you might want to submit a bugzilla against
> > pipewire, listing the workaround so that the devs will know what it is
> > that doesn't always work right because if nobody reports it, it can't
> > get fixed.
>
> Maybe try booting from the f34 workstation live image and see if it
> can get sound out of the box. If it can, something was confused on
> your installation (which can certainly happen on an upgrade versus
> a clean install).

i always clean install to avoid a lot of this too.
its got audio showing up, just not out loud yet.

i think i'll beat on this a bit and see if i can fix it;
it'd be nice to 'give back useful info if i can'...

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[Jack Craig]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 12:47 PM Jack Craig 
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 12:42 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 13:34:19 -0600
> > Joe Zeff wrote:
> > > > any idea why i am the lucky 'winner '??
> > >
> > > Tish happens.  Seriously, you might want to submit a bugzilla against
> > > pipewire, listing the workaround so that the devs will know what it is
> > > that doesn't always work right because if nobody reports it, it can't
> > > get fixed.
> >
> > Maybe try booting from the f34 workstation live image and see if it
> > can get sound out of the box. If it can, something was confused on
> > your installation (which can certainly happen on an upgrade versus
> > a clean install).
>
> i always clean install to avoid a lot of this too.
> its got audio showing up, just not out loud yet.
>
> i think i'll beat on this a bit and see if i can fix it;
> it'd be nice to 'give back useful info if i can'...
>
> booting a live image Did make music. further it saw the output, but no

input.
so looks like enumeration is weak?

any pointer to where in /usr/share/sound config  enumeration starts?  ? ;)

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[Tim]

On Tue, 2021-09-07 at 08:19 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> In the very top of /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire.conf:
>
> # Daemon config file for PipeWire version "0.3.34" #
> #
> # Copy and edit this file in /etc/pipewire for systemwide changes
> # or in ~/.config/pipewire for local changes.

If it said "into" instead of "in" it might be less confusing.