F20 installation of Lenovo laptop crashes and kernel paramters

[David Shwatrz]

Hi,
F20 installation of Lenovo laptop crashes again and again
(reboot in the middle of installation settings stage);
I remember that in the past, with previous Fedora versions, when I had
a crash in installation (not on this laptop) I had set these kernel
parameters of the Linux text based installation:
nousb noapic noacpi

and it avoided the crash and the installation succeeded.

I did not try this yet with the laptop, but beforehand my question is:
 apart from these kernel parameters, is there another parameter which
you suggest to add to provide better chances of success in
installation ?

regards,
DavidS

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 01/06/2014 04:59 AM, David Shwatrz wrote:
> Hi,
> F20 installation of Lenovo laptop crashes again and again

What model do you have?  See 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006304

If it dies at the bootloader installation, it is probably the same NVRAM 
problem I am fighting with.  I did get i386 installed.  I am looking at 
turning off UEFI support to get x86_64 installed.
> (reboot in the middle of installation settings stage);
> I remember that in the past, with previous Fedora versions, when I had
> a crash in installation (not on this laptop) I had set these kernel
> parameters of the Linux text based installation:
> nousb noapic noacpi
>
> and it avoided the crash and the installation succeeded.
>
> I did not try this yet with the laptop, but beforehand my question is:
>   apart from these kernel parameters, is there another parameter which
> you suggest to add to provide better chances of success in
> installation ?
>
> regards,
> DavidS

[David Shwatrz]

Hi,
It is Lenovo N500. Fedora 18 x86_64 was previously installed on it
with no problem.
It does not reach the bootloader installation, which is at the end.
This laptop model does not have UEFI support. Is there some kernel
parameter for installation which tells it not to try UEFI stuff when
installing ?

regards,
DavidS

On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> On 01/06/2014 04:59 AM, David Shwatrz wrote:
> > Hi,
> > F20 installation of Lenovo laptop crashes again and again
>
> What model do you have?  See
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006304
>
> If it dies at the bootloader installation, it is probably the same NVRAM
> problem I am fighting with.  I did get i386 installed.  I am looking at
> turning off UEFI support to get x86_64 installed.
> > (reboot in the middle of installation settings stage);
> > I remember that in the past, with previous Fedora versions, when I had
> > a crash in installation (not on this laptop) I had set these kernel
> > parameters of the Linux text based installation:
> > nousb noapic noacpi
> >
> > and it avoided the crash and the installation succeeded.
> >
> > I did not try this yet with the laptop, but beforehand my question is:
> >   apart from these kernel parameters, is there another parameter which
> > you suggest to add to provide better chances of success in
> > installation ?
> >
> > regards,
> > DavidS
>
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[Suvayu Ali]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 04:26:52PM +0200, David Shwatrz wrote:
> Hi,
> It is Lenovo N500. Fedora 18 x86_64 was previously installed on it
> with no problem.
> It does not reach the bootloader installation, which is at the end.
> This laptop model does not have UEFI support. Is there some kernel
> parameter for installation which tells it not to try UEFI stuff when
> installing ?

Not an answer to your question; but is there any reason you want to
install again, why not upgrade?  I would suggest upgrading via yum.

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 01/06/2014 10:21 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 04:26:52PM +0200, David Shwatrz wrote:
> > Hi,
> > It is Lenovo N500. Fedora 18 x86_64 was previously installed on it
> > with no problem.
> > It does not reach the bootloader installation, which is at the end.
> > This laptop model does not have UEFI support. Is there some kernel
> > parameter for installation which tells it not to try UEFI stuff when
> > installing ?
>
> Not an answer to your question; but is there any reason you want to
> install again, why not upgrade?  I would suggest upgrading via yum.

I tyipcally want to start clean, or pretty much clean with each ver, so 
I do a clean install to a new drive and copy things over.  Been doing 
this probably back to f7.

[David Shwatrz]

Hi,
After googling and trying, I added *only* mem=4096m to
"linux text"
and installed successfully.

I had also to add mem=4096m in grub.cfg as a kernel paramter. Without
doing it the machine kept rebooting whenever starting it.

regards,
DS

On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> On 01/06/2014 10:21 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 04:26:52PM +0200, David Shwatrz wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > It is Lenovo N500. Fedora 18 x86_64 was previously installed on it
> > > with no problem.
> > > It does not reach the bootloader installation, which is at the end.
> > > This laptop model does not have UEFI support. Is there some kernel
> > > parameter for installation which tells it not to try UEFI stuff when
> > > installing ?
> >
> > Not an answer to your question; but is there any reason you want to
> > install again, why not upgrade?  I would suggest upgrading via yum.
>
> I tyipcally want to start clean, or pretty much clean with each ver, so I do
> a clean install to a new drive and copy things over.  Been doing this
> probably back to f7.
>
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[Joe Zeff]

On 01/07/2014 08:01 AM, David Shwatrz wrote:
> After googling and trying, I added*only*  mem=4096m to
> "linux text"
> and installed successfully.
>
> I had also to add mem=4096m in grub.cfg as a kernel paramter. Without
> doing it the machine kept rebooting whenever starting it.

You don't say how much RAM you have.  If it's 4GB, you don't really need 
x86_64; you can use a 32-bit system with a PAE kernel with up to (I 
think.) 64GB.  I do know I'm using one on this box with 8GB with no 
problems.  And, have you tried memtest86+?  I can't help but feel that 
there might be a RAM stick going sour there.

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 01/06/2014 09:26 AM, David Shwatrz wrote:
> Hi,
> It is Lenovo N500. Fedora 18 x86_64 was previously installed on it
> with no problem.
> It does not reach the bootloader installation, which is at the end.
> This laptop model does not have UEFI support. Is there some kernel
> parameter for installation which tells it not to try UEFI stuff when
> installing ?

It SHOULD install fine if it fines no UEFI suport.  You may have to file 
a bug report.  :(

Is it creating a /boot/efi partition?  Given no UEFI, I think it shouldn't.
> regards,
> DavidS
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> > On 01/06/2014 04:59 AM, David Shwatrz wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > F20 installation of Lenovo laptop crashes again and again
> >
> > What model do you have?  See
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006304
> >
> > If it dies at the bootloader installation, it is probably the same NVRAM
> > problem I am fighting with.  I did get i386 installed.  I am looking at
> > turning off UEFI support to get x86_64 installed.
> > > (reboot in the middle of installation settings stage);
> > > I remember that in the past, with previous Fedora versions, when I had
> > > a crash in installation (not on this laptop) I had set these kernel
> > > parameters of the Linux text based installation:
> > > nousb noapic noacpi
> > >
> > > and it avoided the crash and the installation succeeded.
> > >
> > > I did not try this yet with the laptop, but beforehand my question is:
> > >    apart from these kernel parameters, is there another parameter which
> > > you suggest to add to provide better chances of success in
> > > installation ?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > DavidS
> >
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