I upgraded from F9 to F10 without problems. However, Evolution's behavior has changed.
In F9, I could view all my unread messages in the Unread folder and when finished reading them, I could either hit Cntrl-E or navigate to a different folder. Once I navigated back to the Unread folder, all the messages would be gone.
In F10, as soon as the message is read, it disappears into it's respective folder and I loose the preview.
Is this a bug or a new feature? I disabled allowing messages to be marked read after N seconds, but that is not a long term solution...
Thanks - Ed Gurski
Linux User # 458454 http://counter.li.org
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 08:34 -0500, Ed Gurski wrote:
I upgraded from F9 to F10 without problems. However, Evolution's behavior has changed.
In F9, I could view all my unread messages in the Unread folder and when finished reading them, I could either hit Cntrl-E or navigate to a different folder. Once I navigated back to the Unread folder, all the messages would be gone.
In F10, as soon as the message is read, it disappears into it's respective folder and I loose the preview.
Is this a bug or a new feature? I disabled allowing messages to be marked read after N seconds, but that is not a long term solution...
The version of Evo in F10 is 2.24, which has some changes to the indexing machinery (it now uses an SQL database), and there are still some kinks with virtual folders (e.g. the unread message count is often wrong). Since Unread is a vfolder, this might be what you're seeing.
In any case, you'd probably get more feedback from the Evo list (http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list)
poc
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 10:24 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
The version of Evo in F10 is 2.24, which has some changes to the indexing machinery (it now uses an SQL database), and there are still some kinks with virtual folders (e.g. the unread message count is often wrong). Since Unread is a vfolder, this might be what you're seeing.
Could this be part of the reason why evolution is now so S L O W? It has taken up to 5 minutes to search out the messages containing "Fedora" in my Junk folder, which at the time contained about 15 messages. Other functions are also very slow -- often accompanied by the message "Generating message list (...)". All my folders are local though large: about 1.5 Gbytes.
Thanks for any info - jon
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 13:08 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 10:24 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
The version of Evo in F10 is 2.24, which has some changes to the indexing machinery (it now uses an SQL database), and there are still some kinks with virtual folders (e.g. the unread message count is often wrong). Since Unread is a vfolder, this might be what you're seeing.
Could this be part of the reason why evolution is now so S L O W? It has taken up to 5 minutes to search out the messages containing "Fedora" in my Junk folder, which at the time contained about 15 messages. Other functions are also very slow -- often accompanied by the message "Generating message list (...)". All my folders are local though large: about 1.5 Gbytes.
I don't see slowness. Quite the contrary in fact, as the new code is faster at searching than the old. I could live with some initial slowness as Evo re-indexed a large message store, but I would expect that to be a once-only thing on first startup. Note that I'm not an Evo devel, I'm just guessing here.
If the slowness persists, I would suggest 1) emptying trash and then 2) removing index files to force Evo to rebuild them.
poc
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 17:46 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: ...
I don't see slowness. Quite the contrary in fact, as the new code is faster at searching than the old. I could live with some initial slowness as Evo re-indexed a large message store, but I would expect that to be a once-only thing on first startup. Note that I'm not an Evo devel, I'm just guessing here.
If the slowness persists, I would suggest 1) emptying trash and then 2) removing index files to force Evo to rebuild them.
I surmise that the index files are (e.g.) all those in the following list, except for the file fedora; and that evolution should be stopped these files removed and then evolution restarted. Is this correct?
$ cd .evolution/mail/local/ $ ls -l fedora* -rw------- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 221217929 Dec 1 16:28 fedora -rw-r--r-- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 268 Dec 1 16:35 fedora.cmeta -rw------- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 8821801 Nov 27 12:33 fedora.ev-summary -rw------- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 1786073 Nov 27 12:33 fedora.ev-summary-meta -rw------- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 0 Jan 12 2007 fedora.ibex.index -rw------- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 8 Jan 12 2007 fedora.ibex.index.data
Thanks - jon
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 08:34:08AM -0500, Ed Gurski wrote:
In F10, as soon as the message is read, it disappears into it's respective folder and I loose the preview.
Evolution has always had that bug. IMAP folders, right? You can open a Gnome bug on it but they'll just close it.
Yet another reason to never bother with Evolution.
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 20:21 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 08:34:08AM -0500, Ed Gurski wrote:
In F10, as soon as the message is read, it disappears into it's respective folder and I loose the preview.
Evolution has always had that bug. IMAP folders, right? You can open a Gnome bug on it but they'll just close it.
Never seen this one, and I've been using Evo (with IMAP) since Ximian version 1.
poc
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 05:25:39PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Never seen this one, and I've been using Evo (with IMAP) since Ximian version 1.
Easy to replicate... set the IMAP folder of your choice to show only unread messages, then double-click on one of the unread messages. Where'd the text of the message go? All you get is an empty window.
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 05:26 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 05:25:39PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Never seen this one, and I've been using Evo (with IMAP) since Ximian version 1.
Easy to replicate... set the IMAP folder of your choice to show only unread messages, then double-click on one of the unread messages. Where'd the text of the message go? All you get is an empty window.
No, it doesn't do that. I get the text of the message as I would expect.
However when I tried it in a *virtual* folder, it did what you say. I normally read stuff via the preview pane so I hadn't seen that. However I'm 99% certain it didn't happen with previous versions of Evo, because I do occasionally use the double-click thing and I would definitely have noticed it. Evo 2.24 seems to have some issues with vfolders, possibly related to the new indexing code, so that may be the root cause.
I suggest you file a bug report at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
poc
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 20:21 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 08:34:08AM -0500, Ed Gurski wrote:
In F10, as soon as the message is read, it disappears into it's respective folder and I loose the preview.
Evolution has always had that bug. IMAP folders, right? You can open a Gnome bug on it but they'll just close it.
Yet another reason to never bother with Evolution.
Is that this one? If so, they seem to think they've fixed it. If they haven't, see if they'll reopen it or file a new one.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=240416
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 21:07 +0000, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 20:21 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 08:34:08AM -0500, Ed Gurski wrote:
In F10, as soon as the message is read, it disappears into it's respective folder and I loose the preview.
Evolution has always had that bug. IMAP folders, right? You can open a Gnome bug on it but they'll just close it.
Yet another reason to never bother with Evolution.
Is that this one? If so, they seem to think they've fixed it. If they haven't, see if they'll reopen it or file a new one.
That doesn't seem to be the same thing at all. Maybe you got the number wrong.
poc
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 16:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 21:07 +0000, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 20:21 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 08:34:08AM -0500, Ed Gurski wrote:
In F10, as soon as the message is read, it disappears into it's respective folder and I loose the preview.
Evolution has always had that bug. IMAP folders, right? You can open a Gnome bug on it but they'll just close it.
Yet another reason to never bother with Evolution.
Is that this one? If so, they seem to think they've fixed it. If they haven't, see if they'll reopen it or file a new one.
That doesn't seem to be the same thing at all. Maybe you got the number wrong.
Oops...
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467892
poc
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 05:40:57PM -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
Yeah, that's one of the upstream bugs that was opened on the issue. I remember reading this one.
Obviously they haven't fixed it yet.
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 08:34 -0500, Ed Gurski wrote:
In F9, I could view all my unread messages in the Unread folder and when finished reading them, I could either hit Cntrl-E or navigate to a different folder. Once I navigated back to the Unread folder, all the messages would be gone.
In F10, as soon as the message is read, it disappears into it's respective folder and I loose the preview.
Is the "hide read messages" option set in the view menu? And is it a global option, or remembered differently per folder?
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