I know this topic has been vaguely discussed on this list already, but I haven't seen anything that is concrete regarding the future of the RHCE and RHCT. Specifically, I need a feeling for whether the RHCT and RHCE should be taught (as much as it can be taught) these days at all using Fedora Core or not.
I know this topic has been vaguely discussed on this list already, but I haven't seen anything that is concrete regarding the future of the RHCE and RHCT. Specifically, I need a feeling for whether the RHCT and RHCE should be taught (as much as it can be taught) these days at all using Fedora Core or not.
I'm wondering about this as well. I had started to study for my RHCE using RH 9. I figured that it would be beneficial for both RHL *and* RHEL, and of course RHL is no more.
So, I'm trying to decide whether it is worth it to continue. There is no way in hell that I can afford any of the RHES offerings for home use, there's no way in hell that my boss will allow me to mess with the RHES AS server that we have up, as it's a production machine. So, if RHCE won't correlate to Fedora, then there's really no point in my spending my money.
Ben
Quoting "Benjamin J. Weiss" benjamin@weiss.name:
I'm wondering about this as well. I had started to study for my RHCE using RH 9. I figured that it would be beneficial for both RHL *and* RHEL, and of course RHL is no more. So, I'm trying to decide whether it is worth it to continue.
First off, let Red Hat _clarify_ their certification plans before moving on. All they have seemingly done is clarify their re-certification of existing RHCT/RHCEs at this point.
There is no way in hell that I can afford any of the RHES offerings for home use, there's no way in hell that my boss will allow me to mess with the RHES AS server that we have up, as it's a production machine.
Secondly, you _can_ (or at least could previously) get RHEL AS as a low-cost (sub-$100?) "developer" subscription. It's not guaranteed (let alone supported) as the full version, but it _does_ give you a "developer" version -- something you could run athome.
Third, you can always build from SRPMs as well. There are various HOWTOs available. Red Hat _does_ give you the tools to do it too.
So, if RHCE won't correlate to Fedora, then there's really no point in my spending my money.
Lastly, might I suggest LPI to _augment_ your Red Hat certification? This is not a LPI v. Red Hat statement, just that it can't hurt to get both. LPI is big in Japan and Germany, the US being #3 in LPI certifications, and there are only 69 LPIC-2 certified individuals in the US.
-- Bryan "TheBS" Smith RHCE9, LPIC-2, Linux+
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 14:27, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
<snip>Secondly, you _can_ (or at least could previously) get RHEL AS as a low-cost (sub-$100?) "developer" subscription. It's not guaranteed (let alone supported) as the full version, but it _does_ give you a "developer" version -- something you could run athome.
Be advised that up2date will not work, or rather does not update even if you buy the subscription on the developer edition. I made that mistake and within a day a hacker hijacked the machine. You will have to manually patch all of your systems. And mind you, there are a lot of patches. Just my 2c.
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On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 7:24 pm, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
I know this topic has been vaguely discussed on this list already, but I haven't seen anything that is concrete regarding the future of the RHCE and RHCT. Specifically, I need a feeling for whether the RHCT and RHCE should be taught (as much as it can be taught) these days at all using Fedora Core or not.
I'm wondering about this as well. I had started to study for my RHCE using RH 9. I figured that it would be beneficial for both RHL *and* RHEL, and of course RHL is no more.
So, I'm trying to decide whether it is worth it to continue. There is no way in hell that I can afford any of the RHES offerings for home use, there's no way in hell that my boss will allow me to mess with the RHES AS server that we have up, as it's a production machine. So, if RHCE won't correlate to Fedora, then there's really no point in my spending my money.
Ben
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I started asking this question myself on the fedora and redhat freenode irc channels too. Disappointing, as I can't afford RHEL either. What are our options?
I would hate to see skills go to waste due to money.
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Folks, ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Henry" gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk
I'm wondering about this as well. I had started to study for my RHCE using RH 9. I figured that it would be beneficial for both RHL *and* RHEL, and of course RHL is no more.
server that we have up, as it's a production machine. So, if RHCE won't correlate to Fedora, then there's really no point in my spending my money.
I started asking this question myself on the fedora and redhat freenode irc
I think there are three basic options.
1) Ideally, Red Hat will offer a lower cost / time limited "demo" version of RHEL Server and Workstation (for the RHCE and RHCT exams, respectively). I gather that these exams have been such as cash cow for Red Hat that there's no way that they'd kill this golden goose.
2) As Bryan implied, there is a way to build RHEL from the source code. The source code for RHEL2.1 is freely available. I expect the same for the RHEL 3 source code. The main source for this is Michael Redlinger's HOWTO at http://www2.uibk.ac.at/zid/software/unix/linux/rhel-rebuild.htm
I haven't tried it myself, but I gather it takes 2-3 days of work to build RHEL from source.
The folks at cAos are working on this as well - see www.caosity.org . One of their goals is to build RHEL from source and distribute it, without the Red Hat moniker, on ISOs and CDs.
3) Work from Fedora. The tools associated with RHEL and Fedora are not significantly different - with respect to the RHCE and RHCT requirements. However, I expect this will change as Fedora evolves. By the time RHEL 4 is released, maybe in 2005, I'm guessing this will no longer be an option.
Thanks, Mike
From: "G Henry" gavin.henry@magicfx.co.uk
I'm wondering about this as well. I had started to study for my RHCE using RH 9. I figured that it would be beneficial for both RHL *and* RHEL, and of course RHL is no more.
Maybe I'm late on this, but my understanding is that the RHCE is good for a couple or three major versions of RHL. That is, I took the exam based on RHL9 while RHEL 2.1 was current. My certification is good for until RHEL 5 or so. At least that was what was explained in the Red Hat stuff I was given.
The course I took was RHL9 based and does not indicate any difference between certification for RHL and RHEL. Operationally RHL and RHEL are fairly similar so I'd say press on with your preparations! If you do Fedora you'll probably be more skilled than those who just do RHL or RHEL.
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