Where did my sound go?

[Jeffrey Ross]

first this is an x86_64 machine running FC6.

I just updated the system with the latest updates with yum, two items I 
noticed that maybe of interest that were updated are ALSA and the 
Kernel.  Ever since these packages were updated I have lost the sound.

However... If I go to the sound card detection it play fine, run vlc and 
the machine is silent.  The web browser is silent and so is the mail 
client's (thunderbird) new mail notification.

The sound card in the machine is 06:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: 
Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) per lspci and the sound card detection 
program says its module "snd-ens1371"

Suggestions?

TIA, Jeff

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 09:58 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> first this is an x86_64 machine running FC6.
>
> I just updated the system with the latest updates with yum, two items I 
> noticed that maybe of interest that were updated are ALSA and the 
> Kernel.  Ever since these packages were updated I have lost the sound.
>
> However... If I go to the sound card detection it play fine, run vlc and 
> the machine is silent.  The web browser is silent and so is the mail 
> client's (thunderbird) new mail notification.
>
> The sound card in the machine is 06:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: 
> Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) per lspci and the sound card detection 
> program says its module "snd-ens1371"
>
> Suggestions?
>
> TIA, Jeff

Yes, go to alsamixer and adjust the sound and raise the sound in the
sound chanels asn well as umute those with a MM at the base by typing m.
I just had to do that when the installation of firefox2 screwed up the 
sound levels.

[david walcroft]

Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 09:58 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> > first this is an x86_64 machine running FC6.
> >
> > I just updated the system with the latest updates with yum, two items I 
> > noticed that maybe of interest that were updated are ALSA and the 
> > Kernel.  Ever since these packages were updated I have lost the sound.
> >
> > However... If I go to the sound card detection it play fine, run vlc and 
> > the machine is silent.  The web browser is silent and so is the mail 
> > client's (thunderbird) new mail notification.
> >
> > The sound card in the machine is 06:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: 
> > Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) per lspci and the sound card detection 
> > program says its module "snd-ens1371"
> >
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > TIA, Jeff
>
> Yes, go to alsamixer and adjust the sound and raise the sound in the
> sound chanels asn well as umute those with a MM at the base by typing m.
> I just had to do that when the installation of firefox2 screwed up the 
> sound levels.

I have the same problem except Alsamixer is set correctly and I can find 
"system-config-soundcard" at "/usr/bin/system-config-soundcard" but with 
  no result,it will not run.Any other way to test my sound card.

David

[Kam Leo]

On 3/25/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 09:58 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> > > first this is an x86_64 machine running FC6.
> > >
> > > I just updated the system with the latest updates with yum, two items I
> > > noticed that maybe of interest that were updated are ALSA and the
> > > Kernel.  Ever since these packages were updated I have lost the sound.
> > >
> > > However... If I go to the sound card detection it play fine, run vlc and
> > > the machine is silent.  The web browser is silent and so is the mail
> > > client's (thunderbird) new mail notification.
> > >
> > > The sound card in the machine is 06:02.0 Multimedia audio controller:
> > > Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) per lspci and the sound card detection
> > > program says its module "snd-ens1371"
> > >
> > > Suggestions?
> > >
> > > TIA, Jeff
> >
> > Yes, go to alsamixer and adjust the sound and raise the sound in the
> > sound chanels asn well as umute those with a MM at the base by typing m.
> > I just had to do that when the installation of firefox2 screwed up the
> > sound levels.
>
> I have the same problem except Alsamixer is set correctly and I can find
> "system-config-soundcard" at "/usr/bin/system-config-soundcard" but with
>   no result,it will not run.Any other way to test my sound card.

In system-config-soundcard go to System tab, click  "Reload audio
drivers", click "Apply" button, then give sound test another go.
> David

[Kam Leo]

On 3/26/07, Kam Leo  wrote:
> On 3/25/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> > Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 09:58 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> > > > first this is an x86_64 machine running FC6.
> > > >
> > > > I just updated the system with the latest updates with yum, two items I
> > > > noticed that maybe of interest that were updated are ALSA and the
> > > > Kernel.  Ever since these packages were updated I have lost the sound.
> > > >
> > > > However... If I go to the sound card detection it play fine, run vlc and
> > > > the machine is silent.  The web browser is silent and so is the mail
> > > > client's (thunderbird) new mail notification.
> > > >
> > > > The sound card in the machine is 06:02.0 Multimedia audio controller:
> > > > Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) per lspci and the sound card detection
> > > > program says its module "snd-ens1371"
> > > >
> > > > Suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > TIA, Jeff
> > >
> > > Yes, go to alsamixer and adjust the sound and raise the sound in the
> > > sound chanels asn well as umute those with a MM at the base by typing m.
> > > I just had to do that when the installation of firefox2 screwed up the
> > > sound levels.
> >
> > I have the same problem except Alsamixer is set correctly and I can find
> > "system-config-soundcard" at "/usr/bin/system-config-soundcard" but with
> >   no result,it will not run.Any other way to test my sound card.
>
> In system-config-soundcard go to System tab, click  "Reload audio
> drivers", click "Apply" button, then give sound test another go.

Forgot to mention that after performing the above on my system I get
sound; however, Volume Control Applet says that it failed to detect a
soundcard or gstreamer-plugin was not installed after I reboot.
> > David

[Aaron Konstam]

On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 00:07 -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
> On 3/26/07, Kam Leo  wrote:
> > On 3/25/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> > > Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 09:58 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> > > > > first this is an x86_64 machine running FC6.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just updated the system with the latest updates with yum, two items I
> > > > > noticed that maybe of interest that were updated are ALSA and the
> > > > > Kernel.  Ever since these packages were updated I have lost the sound.
> > > > >
> > > > > However... If I go to the sound card detection it play fine, run vlc and
> > > > > the machine is silent.  The web browser is silent and so is the mail
> > > > > client's (thunderbird) new mail notification.
> > > > >
> > > > > The sound card in the machine is 06:02.0 Multimedia audio controller:
> > > > > Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) per lspci and the sound card detection
> > > > > program says its module "snd-ens1371"
> > > > >
> > > > > Suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA, Jeff
> > > >
> > > > Yes, go to alsamixer and adjust the sound and raise the sound in the
> > > > sound channels as well as umute those with a MM at the base by typing m.
> > > > I just had to do that when the installation of firefox2 screwed up the
> > > > sound levels.
> > >
> > > I have the same problem except Alsamixer is set correctly and I can find
> > > "system-config-soundcard" at "/usr/bin/system-config-soundcard" but with
> > >   no result,it will not run.Any other way to test my sound card.
> >
> > In system-config-soundcard go to System tab, click  "Reload audio
> > drivers", click "Apply" button, then give sound test another go.
>
> Forgot to mention that after performing the above on my system I get
> sound; however, Volume Control Applet says that it failed to detect a
> soundcard or gstreamer-plugin was not installed after I reboot.

Ok I said this before and a rant started so lets keep cool. Sound cards
and soundcard detection is one of the less robust features of FC6 and to
some extent in all Fedoras.
1. FC6 has yet to admit my sound card exists. That is not quite true the
boot messages recognized it but lspci does not. So the way to go in most
cases launch the driver manually . That seems not to be a problem in the
OP case.
2. Why is not the alsamixer display set correctly initially? Is there
anyone that does not want these channels (like CD) unmuted and set at
high volume. Only people with peculiar special needs should have to go
to alsamixer. And installing new rpms should not destroy the alsa
settings as firefox2 did. (Do you hear me remi and mozilla?). 
3. Certainly soundcard detection could be combined with alsa
configuration.

[david walcroft]

Kam Leo wrote:
> On 3/25/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> > Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 09:58 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> > > > first this is an x86_64 machine running FC6.
> > > >
> > > > I just updated the system with the latest updates with yum, two
> >
> > items I
> > > > noticed that maybe of interest that were updated are ALSA and the
> > > > Kernel.  Ever since these packages were updated I have lost the sound.
> > > >
> > > > However... If I go to the sound card detection it play fine, run
> >
> > vlc and
> > > > the machine is silent.  The web browser is silent and so is the mail
> > > > client's (thunderbird) new mail notification.
> > > >
> > > > The sound card in the machine is 06:02.0 Multimedia audio controller:
> > > > Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) per lspci and the sound card detection
> > > > program says its module "snd-ens1371"
> > > >
> > > > Suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > TIA, Jeff
> > >
> > > Yes, go to alsamixer and adjust the sound and raise the sound in the
> > > sound chanels asn well as umute those with a MM at the base by
> >
> > typing m.
> > > I just had to do that when the installation of firefox2 screwed up the
> > > sound levels.
> >
> > I have the same problem except Alsamixer is set correctly and I can find
> > "system-config-soundcard" at "/usr/bin/system-config-soundcard" but with
> >   no result,it will not run.Any other way to test my sound card.
>
> In system-config-soundcard go to System tab, click  "Reload audio
> drivers", click "Apply" button, then give sound test another go.
> > David

Kam
     My "sytem-config-soundcard" does not work,the software is there but 
it does not run.

David

[Kam Leo]

On 3/26/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
> > On 3/25/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> > > Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 09:58 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> > > > > first this is an x86_64 machine running FC6.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just updated the system with the latest updates with yum, two
> > >
> > > items I
> > > > > noticed that maybe of interest that were updated are ALSA and the
> > > > > Kernel.  Ever since these packages were updated I have lost the sound.
> > > > >
> > > > > However... If I go to the sound card detection it play fine, run
> > >
> > > vlc and
> > > > > the machine is silent.  The web browser is silent and so is the mail
> > > > > client's (thunderbird) new mail notification.
> > > > >
> > > > > The sound card in the machine is 06:02.0 Multimedia audio controller:
> > > > > Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) per lspci and the sound card detection
> > > > > program says its module "snd-ens1371"
> > > > >
> > > > > Suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA, Jeff
> > > >
> > > > Yes, go to alsamixer and adjust the sound and raise the sound in the
> > > > sound chanels asn well as umute those with a MM at the base by
> > >
> > > typing m.
> > > > I just had to do that when the installation of firefox2 screwed up the
> > > > sound levels.
> > >
> > > I have the same problem except Alsamixer is set correctly and I can find
> > > "system-config-soundcard" at "/usr/bin/system-config-soundcard" but with
> > >   no result,it will not run.Any other way to test my sound card.
> >
> > In system-config-soundcard go to System tab, click  "Reload audio
> > drivers", click "Apply" button, then give sound test another go.
> > > David
>
> Kam
>     My "sytem-config-soundcard" does not work,the software is there but
> it does not run.

What do you mean by "tt does not run"?  Are you root or using sudo
when invoking this program?
> David

[david walcroft]

> > Kam
> >     My "sytem-config-soundcard" does not work,the software is there but
> > it does not run.
>
> What do you mean by "tt does not run"?  Are you root or using sudo
> when invoking this program?
> > David

I have got "system-config-soundcar"d going now,but 'updating driver' 
does nothing and the error '/dev/dsp' is not installed or similar on a 
reboot; "ls -l /dev/dsp" shows nothing.
My modprobe.conf is

install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0: && 
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :

remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; 
}; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

Hope this helps   David

[Kam Leo]

On 3/27/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> > > Kam
> > >     My "sytem-config-soundcard" does not work,the software is there but
> > > it does not run.
> >
> > What do you mean by "tt does not run"?  Are you root or using sudo
> > when invoking this program?
> > > David
>
> I have got "system-config-soundcar"d going now,but 'updating driver'

In system-config-soundcard->System click "Reload audio driver". Then
click "Apply". It may take a few seconds for your system to respond to
the Apply command. After that go to system-config-soundcard->Sound
Test and click on the Start button ">".
> does nothing and the error '/dev/dsp' is not installed or similar on a
> reboot; "ls -l /dev/dsp" shows nothing.
> My modprobe.conf is
>
> install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0: &&
> /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
>
> remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ;
> }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

By the way, do you have ACPI enabled on your system. My system is so
old that it does not have ACPI capabilities.
> Hope this helps   David

[david walcroft]

Kam Leo wrote:
> On 3/27/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> > > > Kam
> > > >     My "sytem-config-soundcard" does not work,the software is there
> >
> > but
> > > > it does not run.
> > >
> > > What do you mean by "tt does not run"?  Are you root or using sudo
> > > when invoking this program?
> > > > David
> >
> > I have got "system-config-soundcar"d going now,but 'updating driver'
>
> In system-config-soundcard->System click "Reload audio driver". Then
> click "Apply". It may take a few seconds for your system to respond to
> the Apply command. After that go to system-config-soundcard->Sound
> Test and click on the Start button ">".

I have done that with no result
> > does nothing and the error '/dev/dsp' is not installed or similar on a
> > reboot; "ls -l /dev/dsp" shows nothing.
> > My modprobe.conf is
> >
> > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0: &&
> > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> >
> > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ;
> > }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
>
> By the way, do you have ACPI enabled on your system. My system is so
> old that it does not have ACPI capabilities.
> > Hope this helps   David

/dev/dsp does not exist,how do I set it up as a device with Major and 
Minor numbers.

David

[Kam Leo]

On 3/28/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
> > On 3/27/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> > > > > Kam
> > > > >     My "sytem-config-soundcard" does not work,the software is there
> > >
> > > but
> > > > > it does not run.
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean by "tt does not run"?  Are you root or using sudo
> > > > when invoking this program?
> > > > > David
> > >
> > > I have got "system-config-soundcar"d going now,but 'updating driver'
> >
> > In system-config-soundcard->System click "Reload audio driver". Then
> > click "Apply". It may take a few seconds for your system to respond to
> > the Apply command. After that go to system-config-soundcard->Sound
> > Test and click on the Start button ">".
>
> I have done that with no result
> > > does nothing and the error '/dev/dsp' is not installed or similar on a
> > > reboot; "ls -l /dev/dsp" shows nothing.
> > > My modprobe.conf is
> > >
> > > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0: &&
> > > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > >
> > > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ;
> > > }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
> >
> > By the way, do you have ACPI enabled on your system. My system is so
> > old that it does not have ACPI capabilities.
> > > Hope this helps   David
>
> /dev/dsp does not exist,how do I set it up as a device with Major and
> Minor numbers.

I don't have that information; however, ALSA.ORG may have it.
> David

[Nigel Henry]

On Thursday 29 March 2007 02:07, david walcroft wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
> > On 3/27/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> > > > > Kam
> > > > >     My "sytem-config-soundcard" does not work,the software is there
> > >
> > > but
> > > > > it does not run.
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean by "tt does not run"?  Are you root or using sudo
> > > > when invoking this program?
> > > > > David
> > >
> > > I have got "system-config-soundcar"d going now,but 'updating driver'
> >
> > In system-config-soundcard->System click "Reload audio driver". Then
> > click "Apply". It may take a few seconds for your system to respond to
> > the Apply command. After that go to system-config-soundcard->Sound
> > Test and click on the Start button ">".
>
> I have done that with no result
> > > does nothing and the error '/dev/dsp' is not installed or similar on a
> > > reboot; "ls -l /dev/dsp" shows nothing.
> > > My modprobe.conf is
> > >
> > > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0: &&
> > > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > >
> > > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ;
> > > }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
> >
> > By the way, do you have ACPI enabled on your system. My system is so
> > old that it does not have ACPI capabilities.
> > > Hope this helps   David
>
> /dev/dsp does not exist,how do I set it up as a device with Major and
> Minor numbers.
> David

I may have missed a bit of this thread, but looking back through my inbox I 
found a reference to /dev/dsp. It said, if you are you are using OSS (open 
sound system) /dev/dsp should be automatically created on bootup. For Alsa, 
you need to have the alsa-oss package installed.

Creating a /dev/dsp is probably going to be a waste of time, as when you 
reboot it won't be recreated.

OSS is pretty much deprecated, so to be able to use apps that need OSS, you 
need to install the alsa-oss package.

alsa-oss wasn't available at first on FC5, but I see that it turned up in 
extras later on, and am presuming it's available for FC6 as well.

2¢ worth of perhaps useless info.

Nigel.

[david walcroft]

Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Thursday 29 March 2007 02:07, david walcroft wrote:
> > Kam Leo wrote:
> > > On 3/27/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> > > > > > Kam
> > > > > >     My "sytem-config-soundcard" does not work,the software is there
> > > >
> > > > but
> > > > > > it does not run.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean by "tt does not run"?  Are you root or using sudo
> > > > > when invoking this program?
> > > > > > David
> > > >
> > > > I have got "system-config-soundcar"d going now,but 'updating driver'
> > >
> > > In system-config-soundcard->System click "Reload audio driver". Then
> > > click "Apply". It may take a few seconds for your system to respond to
> > > the Apply command. After that go to system-config-soundcard->Sound
> > > Test and click on the Start button ">".
> >
> > I have done that with no result
> > > > does nothing and the error '/dev/dsp' is not installed or similar on a
> > > > reboot; "ls -l /dev/dsp" shows nothing.
> > > > My modprobe.conf is
> > > >
> > > > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0: &&
> > > > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > > >
> > > > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ;
> > > > }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
> > >
> > > By the way, do you have ACPI enabled on your system. My system is so
> > > old that it does not have ACPI capabilities.
> > > > Hope this helps   David
> >
> > /dev/dsp does not exist,how do I set it up as a device with Major and
> > Minor numbers.
> > David
>
> I may have missed a bit of this thread, but looking back through my inbox I 
> found a reference to /dev/dsp. It said, if you are you are using OSS (open 
> sound system) /dev/dsp should be automatically created on bootup. For Alsa, 
> you need to have the alsa-oss package installed.
>
> Creating a /dev/dsp is probably going to be a waste of time, as when you 
> reboot it won't be recreated.
>
> OSS is pretty much deprecated, so to be able to use apps that need OSS, you 
> need to install the alsa-oss package.
>
> alsa-oss wasn't available at first on FC5, but I see that it turned up in 
> extras later on, and am presuming it's available for FC6 as well.
>
> 2¢ worth of perhaps useless info.
>
> Nigel.

No my sound system is Alsa.

David

[Kam Leo]

On 3/29/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> Nigel Henry wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 March 2007 02:07, david walcroft wrote:
> > > Kam Leo wrote:
> > > > On 3/27/07, david walcroft  wrote:
> > > > > > > Kam
> > > > > > >     My "sytem-config-soundcard" does not work,the software is there
> > > > >
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > it does not run.
> > > > > > What do you mean by "tt does not run"?  Are you root or using sudo
> > > > > > when invoking this program?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >   David
> > > > >
> > > > > I have got "system-config-soundcar"d going now,but 'updating driver'
> > > >
> > > > In system-config-soundcard->System click "Reload audio driver". Then
> > > > click "Apply". It may take a few seconds for your system to respond to
> > > > the Apply command. After that go to system-config-soundcard->Sound
> > > > Test and click on the Start button ">".
> > >
> > > I have done that with no result
> > > > > does nothing and the error '/dev/dsp' is not installed or similar on a
> > > > > reboot; "ls -l /dev/dsp" shows nothing.
> > > > > My modprobe.conf is
> > > > >
> > > > > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0: &&
> > > > > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > > > >
> > > > > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ;
> > > > > }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
> > > >
> > > > By the way, do you have ACPI enabled on your system. My system is so
> > > > old that it does not have ACPI capabilities.
> > > > > Hope this helps   David
> > >
> > > /dev/dsp does not exist,how do I set it up as a device with Major and
> > > Minor numbers.
> > > David
> >
> > I may have missed a bit of this thread, but looking back through my inbox I
> > found a reference to /dev/dsp. It said, if you are you are using OSS (open
> > sound system) /dev/dsp should be automatically created on bootup. For Alsa,
> > you need to have the alsa-oss package installed.
> >
> > Creating a /dev/dsp is probably going to be a waste of time, as when you
> > reboot it won't be recreated.
> >
> > OSS is pretty much deprecated, so to be able to use apps that need OSS, you
> > need to install the alsa-oss package.
> >
> > alsa-oss wasn't available at first on FC5, but I see that it turned up in
> > extras later on, and am presuming it's available for FC6 as well.
> >
> > 2¢ worth of perhaps useless info.
> >
> > Nigel.
>
> No my sound system is Alsa.

In another message on this list a poster recommended a fix for his
Intel chipset sound problem. You might try this:

Append the following lines to /etc/rc.local :

modprobe -r snd-ens1371
modprobe snd-ens1371

After editing the file reboot your system and see if that works..
> David

[david walcroft]

Kam Leo wrote:
> In another message on this list a poster recommended a fix for his
> Intel chipset sound problem. You might try this:
>
> Append the following lines to /etc/rc.local :
>
> modprobe -r snd-ens1371
> modprobe snd-ens1371
>
> After editing the file reboot your system and see if that works..
> > David

I tried that but it does not write a "/dev/dsp" file.

david