9:34 a.m.
Does this still exist?
I was looking through some old email (2008/2009),
and I see it was still appearing then,
although it seemed to be getting more and more bureacratic,
with reports from committees whose pontifications
were generally unintelligible to me.
Earlier on, IIRC, this newsletter used to contain
interesting and useful (and intelligible) articles
on features of Fedora, eg user-friendly articles on WiFi, PXEboot, etc.
(I seem to remember articles on KDE, maybe by Anne Wilson,
which opened my eyes to facilities available in KDE.)
Is there anything similar now?
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
12:24 a.m.
On 02/28/2011 08:49 PM, Tim wrote
I'm sure it is, but I'm voicing my comments from the
viewpoint of a
reader, rather than a contributor. What happened to it? Did the people
previously submitting the interesting articles give up? Have they left
the scene? Has someone deliberately decided to make it like is, rather
than how it was?
Some contributors got busy with other things and noone else has stepped
up to fill in the same tasks. Unless someone else does, what you get is
what people have volunteered to do. No explicit decision.
Rahul
9:19 a.m.
Tim:
> Thirded... I used to find something worth reading in it, but
the
> last few editions have been completely boring.
JD:
Actually, this more of an opportunity than a point to lament.
If there are people who could spend the time cycles needed
to write interesting and informative articles about Fedora
for FNW, then this is the chance to jump on it :)
I'm sure it is, but I'm voicing my comments from the viewpoint of a
reader, rather than a contributor. What happened to it? Did the people
previously submitting the interesting articles give up? Have they left
the scene? Has someone deliberately decided to make it like is, rather
than how it was?
--
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2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
read messages from the public lists.
3:18 a.m.
On 02/28/2011 01:09 AM, John Mellor wrote:
Here here! FWN used to be something worth reading, but has now been
bastardized into what looks more like an employee rule-book for a
totally mindless organization.
If you feel strongly about it, now is a great time to step up and help
write some content on a weekly basis for other like minded users to
enjoy or maybe criticize.
Rahul
7:04 p.m.
On 02/27/2011 12:55 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 14:39 -0500, John Mellor wrote:
> Here here! FWN used to be something worth reading, but has now been
> bastardized into what looks more like an employee rule-book for a
> totally mindless organization.
Thirded... I used to find something worth reading in it, but the last
few editions have been completely boring.
Actually, this more of an opportunity than a point to lament.
If there are people who could spend the time cycles needed
to write interesting and informative articles about Fedora
for FNW, then this is the chance to jump on it :)
Cheers,
JD
2:55 p.m.
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 14:39 -0500, John Mellor wrote:
Here here! FWN used to be something worth reading, but has now been
bastardized into what looks more like an employee rule-book for a
totally mindless organization.
Thirded... I used to find something worth reading in it, but the last
few editions have been completely boring.
--
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
read messages from the public lists.
1:39 p.m.
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 06:49 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Timothy Murphy <gayleard(a)eircom.net> wrote:
> From: Timothy Murphy <gayleard(a)eircom.net>
> Subject: Re: Fedora Weekly News?
> To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 6:32 AM
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue264
>
> Thanks for that.
> But looking at the last few numbers does confirm to me
> that FWN has changed completely from what it was at the
> start.
> It is now essentially a bureaucratic record of recent
> Fedora developments.
> There is nothing wrong with having that.
> But originally, unless my memory is deceiving me,
> FWN was a kind of Fedora magazine, containing articles
> describing to Fedora newbies and others in a kind of
> do-it-yourself way
> some of the features or applications available under
> Fedora,
> eg yum, pxeboot, WiFi, etc.
>
> That, in any case, is what I would be interested in reading
> -
> and given that FWN does not seem to meet that need
> I wondered if there is any alternative online?
> Personally, I'd be particular interested in a Fedora/KDE
> online magazine.
>
>
> --
You are correct in your statements. There used to be some howto's other kinds of
things that were Fedora specific. My best guess is that this is now transferred over to
the main Fedora webpage and some pages their in :
http://fedoraproject.org/index.html
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help
http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora
http://planet.fedoraproject.org/
Here here! FWN used to be something worth reading, but has now been
bastardized into what looks more like an employee rule-book for a
totally mindless organization.
FWN was supposed to be for the end-users, not for simply registering
arcane meeting minutes or warnings about actually saying anything
useful. I'm quite sure that the people at these meetings are well aware
of what has gone on in the meeting.
Can we change it? I vote for ripping it apart and going back to what it
used to be. FAMSCO and dev-list acceptable-use mis-statements are not
the kind of garbage that I want to see in it. While we're at it, things
like world-wide FAMSCO event lists are unlikely to be of interest to
non-Ambassadors, and they should move this stuff out of FWN into their
own mailing list. I want to see events I can contribute to that are
within a hundred kilometres of me, and what code I can fix or test to
make a difference. And instead of recording minutes about a decision to
include SQLninja without recording anything but a final decision, why
don't we see an article about how to use the new tool? This stuff is
guaranteed to disconnect the people to whom it was originally intended
to connect to.
Just my opinion...
10:51 a.m.
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 06:49:07 -0800 (PST)
Antonio Olivares <olivares14031(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Timothy Murphy <gayleard(a)eircom.net> wrote:
> From: Timothy Murphy <gayleard(a)eircom.net>
> Subject: Re: Fedora Weekly News?
> To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 6:32 AM
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue264
>
> Thanks for that.
> But looking at the last few numbers does confirm to me
> that FWN has changed completely from what it was at the
> start.
> It is now essentially a bureaucratic record of recent
> Fedora developments.
> There is nothing wrong with having that.
> But originally, unless my memory is deceiving me,
> FWN was a kind of Fedora magazine, containing articles
> describing to Fedora newbies and others in a kind of
> do-it-yourself way
> some of the features or applications available under
> Fedora,
> eg yum, pxeboot, WiFi, etc.
>
> That, in any case, is what I would be interested in reading
> -
> and given that FWN does not seem to meet that need
> I wondered if there is any alternative online?
> Personally, I'd be particular interested in a Fedora/KDE
> online magazine.
>
>
> --
You are correct in your statements. There used to be some howto's
other kinds of things that were Fedora specific. My best guess is
that this is now transferred over to the main Fedora webpage and some
pages their in :
http://fedoraproject.org/index.html
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help
http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora
http://planet.fedoraproject.org/
Hope this helps :)
Antonio
Perhaps the OP was thinking of the old Daily Package site:
http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/
It appears that there has been no activity there since late 2008.
-- cmg
8:49 a.m.
--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Timothy Murphy <gayleard(a)eircom.net> wrote:
From: Timothy Murphy <gayleard(a)eircom.net>
Subject: Re: Fedora Weekly News?
To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 6:32 AM
Antonio Olivares wrote:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue264
Thanks for that.
But looking at the last few numbers does confirm to me
that FWN has changed completely from what it was at the
start.
It is now essentially a bureaucratic record of recent
Fedora developments.
There is nothing wrong with having that.
But originally, unless my memory is deceiving me,
FWN was a kind of Fedora magazine, containing articles
describing to Fedora newbies and others in a kind of
do-it-yourself way
some of the features or applications available under
Fedora,
eg yum, pxeboot, WiFi, etc.
That, in any case, is what I would be interested in reading
-
and given that FWN does not seem to meet that need
I wondered if there is any alternative online?
Personally, I'd be particular interested in a Fedora/KDE
online magazine.
--
You are correct in your statements. There used to be some howto's other kinds of
things that were Fedora specific. My best guess is that this is now transferred over to
the main Fedora webpage and some pages their in :
http://fedoraproject.org/index.html
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help
http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora
http://planet.fedoraproject.org/
Hope this helps :)
Antonio
8:32 a.m.
Antonio Olivares wrote:
Thanks for that.
But looking at the last few numbers does confirm to me
that FWN has changed completely from what it was at the start.
It is now essentially a bureaucratic record of recent Fedora developments.
There is nothing wrong with having that.
But originally, unless my memory is deceiving me,
FWN was a kind of Fedora magazine, containing articles
describing to Fedora newbies and others in a kind of do-it-yourself way
some of the features or applications available under Fedora,
eg yum, pxeboot, WiFi, etc.
That, in any case, is what I would be interested in reading -
and given that FWN does not seem to meet that need
I wondered if there is any alternative online?
Personally, I'd be particular interested in a Fedora/KDE online magazine.
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
1:16 p.m.
--- On Sat, 2/26/11, Jorge Fábregas <jorge.fabregas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jorge Fábregas <jorge.fabregas(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fedora Weekly News?
To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 7:53 AM
On 02/26/2011 11:34 AM, Timothy
Murphy wrote:
> Does this still exist?
Yes; the messages are sent to announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
...so
make sure you're subscribed there.
--
Jorge
--
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue264
I always check the links provided by Distrowatch.com. Scrolling to the bottom on the left
hand side of the page[Latest Newsletters] you will likely find it. I am not subscribed to
the list and I am able to find them :)
Jorge, please don't take it in the wrong way. There are more ways to get the FWN
other than subscribing to the list.
Regards,
Antonio
7:16 a.m.
BTW: Is there a RSS feed of the FWN? I looked for it but I didn't found any.
Regards
--
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(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_German_Team)
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