I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have been installed for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them.
My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with the ones she has, and I have yet to get around to trying to diagnose them. Today as a stopgap I tried to install some others for her, using dnf.
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them?
On 26 Mar 2024, at 16:42, Beartooth Beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have been installed for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them.
My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with the ones she has, and I have yet to get around to trying to diagnose them. Today as a stopgap I tried to install some others for her, using dnf.
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them?
I don’t think Fedora packages most of them. My guess is you downloaded them from the vendor site. And/or added repos to install and update them from. Have a look in /etc/yum.repos.d to see if there are obvious .repo files.
Barry
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 at 16:48, Joe Zeff joe@zeff.us wrote:
On 03/26/2024 10:41 AM, Beartooth wrote:
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY DumbQuestion : How do I look up what it calls them?
Assuming that they have launchers on your desktop, edit the launcher and look at the command. HTH, HAND.
And those launchers live under /usr/share/applications/ and ~/.local/share/applications/
For example:
wmcdonald@fedora:~$ grep Exec /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop Exec=firefox %u Exec=firefox --new-window %u Exec=firefox --private-window %u Exec=firefox --ProfileManager
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:44:54 +0000, Barry wrote:
On 26 Mar 2024, at 16:42, Beartooth Beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them?
I don’t think Fedora packages most of them. My guess is you downloaded them from the vendor site. And/or added repos to install and update them from. Have a look in /etc/yum.repos.d to see if there are obvious .repo files.
Sure enough, my own machine has (with apologies for formatting):
btth@localhost:~$ cd /etc/yum.repos.d btth@localhost:/etc/yum.repos.d$ ls brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_.repo google-chrome.repo _copr:copr.fedorainfracloud.org:phracek:PyCharm.repo opera.repo _copr_phracek-PyCharm.repo.rpmsave rpmfusion-nonfree- nvidia-driver.repo fedora-cisco-openh264.repo rpmfusion-nonfree- nvidia-driver.repo.rpmnew fedora.repo rpmfusion-nonfree- steam.repo fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree- steam.repo.rpmnew fedora-updates-testing.repo vivaldi.repo btth@localhost:/etc/yum.repos.d$
So do I have to do it that way on her machine, too, one browser at a time? Or can I, say, sneakermail my file downstairs, add it into hers, and then do a single dnf install command?
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -0000, Beartooth wrote:
I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have been installed for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them.
My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with the ones she has, and I have yet to get around to trying to diagnose them. Today as a stopgap I tried to install some others for her, using dnf.
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them?
If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides".
$ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:31:30 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -0000, I Beartooth wrote:
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them?
If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides".
$ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera
I tried "whatprovides" on her machine (and got nothing); is this a new version of it??
On 3/26/24 16:21, Beartooth wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:31:30 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -0000, I Beartooth wrote:
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them?
If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides".
$ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera
I tried "whatprovides" on her machine (and got nothing); is this a new version of it??
Try rpm -qa | grep -i opera
Simple google searches--say, "opera for linux" will give you links to download and install. You may find repos that contain the things you want, or you may need to install manually the old fashinged way, via 'rpm'.
On 3/26/24 13:21, Beartooth wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:31:30 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -0000, I Beartooth wrote:
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them?
If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides".
$ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera
I tried "whatprovides" on her machine (and got nothing); is this a new version of it??
It won't work on her machine because it doesn't have the repos setup. That's something you would run on your machine to find out where that package came from.
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 15:31 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -0000, Beartooth wrote:
I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have been installed for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them.
My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with the ones she has, and I have yet to get around to trying to diagnose them. Today as a stopgap I tried to install some others for her, using dnf.
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them?
If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides".
$ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera
A while back I wrote a little script: $ cat bin/whats #!/bin/bash # Identify what package $1 is from, if any
if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then echo "Usage: whats arg" exit fi if ! bin=$(which "$1" 2> /dev/null); then if ! [ -e "$1" ] ; then # Maybe it's a file echo "$1" not found exit fi bin="$1" fi cand=$(rpm -qf "$bin" 2> /dev/null) if echo "$cand" | grep "not owned" > /dev/null 2>&1; then file "$bin" # echo No idea exit fi rpm -qi "$cand"
So 'whats opera' would give the package info for the command, assuming it's installed.
poc
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 20:21 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:31:30 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -0000, I Beartooth wrote:
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them?
If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides".
$ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera
I tried "whatprovides" on her machine (and got nothing); is this a new version of it??
'--whatprovides' is an option to the 'rpm' command, not 'dnf.
poc
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 16:41 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have beeninstalled for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them.
My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with the onesshe has, and I have yet to get around to trying to diagnose them. Today as a stopgap I tried to install some others for her, using dnf.
It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY DumbQuestion : How do I look up what it calls them?
If they are available to directly download on her computer, you could try:
dnf search web browser
To get a list of potentially suitable packages.
With various browsers, you get packages like opera-beta, opera- developer, opera-stable. Trying to install "opera" doesn't work. You may have struck that issue.
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 17:58 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
Sure enough, my own machine has (with apologies for formatting):btth@localhost:~$ cd /etc/yum.repos.d btth@localhost:/etc/yum.repos.d$ ls brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_.repo google-chrome.repo _copr:copr.fedorainfracloud.org:phracek:PyCharm.repo opera.repo _copr_phracek-PyCharm.repo.rpmsave rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver.repo fedora-cisco-openh264.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver.repo.rpmnew fedora.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-steam.repo fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-steam.repo.rpmnew fedora-updates-testing.repo vivaldi.repo btth@localhost:/etc/yum.repos.d$
So do I have to do it that way on her machine, too, one browser ata time? Or can I, say, sneakermail my file downstairs, add it into hers, and then do a single dnf install command?
Installing some repos would probably involve installing keys, too. I'm not sure if you have to import them first, or if using the repo would fetch them in.
You can local install already downloaded web browser packages using yum and dnf, and if the install requires further files, such as libraries, it should download them. But unless you have very limited internet, it's probably more work to organise than just installing them from the repos over the net.
Rather than sneakernet, if they're on the same network, just ssh over to one from the other, so you can compare what works on one, and cut and paste commands between them.
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