Hi,
I will be in the market for a laptop pretty soon, and would like to find a laptop with 1200 vertical resolution (at the very least). I looked around a couple of websites (Dell, Toshiba, Thinkpad) some but was unable to spot much (did not look at everything). Are these available anymore? What would you recommend?
Many thanks, Ranjan
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.ignored@inbox.com wrote:
Hi,
I will be in the market for a laptop pretty soon, and would like to find a laptop with 1200 vertical resolution (at the very least). I looked around a couple of websites (Dell, Toshiba, Thinkpad) some but was unable to spot much (did not look at everything). Are these available anymore? What would you recommend?
It's pretty easy to google this: laptop 1920x1200 For example, this result http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/38302133 laments the unavailability of 1920x1200 and mentions two previously produced laptops with that resolution. I'm sure you could still get them refurbished.
New laptop will have 1920x1080 (16:9 ratio) screens.
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Dale Dellutri daledellutri@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.ignored@inbox.com wrote:
Hi,
I will be in the market for a laptop pretty soon, and would like to find a laptop with 1200 vertical resolution (at the very least). I looked around a couple of websites (Dell, Toshiba, Thinkpad) some but was unable to spot much (did not look at everything). Are these available anymore? What would you recommend?
It's pretty easy to google this: laptop 1920x1200 For example, this result http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/38302133 laments the unavailability of 1920x1200 and mentions two previously produced laptops with that resolution. I'm sure you could still get them refurbished.
Unless it also has a really large screen I didn't like my last workstation laptop that had 1900x1200 resolution. Everything was tiny and my eyes aren't that old yet :)
Richard
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:41:06 -0600 Richard Shaw hobbes1069@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Dale Dellutri daledellutri@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.ignored@inbox.com wrote:
Hi,
I will be in the market for a laptop pretty soon, and would like to find a laptop with 1200 vertical resolution (at the very least). I looked around a couple of websites (Dell, Toshiba, Thinkpad) some but was unable to spot much (did not look at everything). Are these available anymore? What would you recommend?
It's pretty easy to google this: laptop 1920x1200 For example, this result http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/38302133 laments the unavailability of 1920x1200 and mentions two previously produced laptops with that resolution. I'm sure you could still get them refurbished.
Unless it also has a really large screen I didn't like my last workstation laptop that had 1900x1200 resolution. Everything was tiny and my eyes aren't that old yet :)
I guess the story is that there is no high-vertical resolution available yet. Confirms what I have also found.
IMO, high vertical resolutions are very useful for reading documents and editing and bug-fixing code. Not having them anymore is a real disappointment.
Ranjan
On 01/03/2013 10:58 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
I guess the story is that there is no high-vertical resolution available yet. Confirms what I have also found.
Apple is printing money selling high-end laptops with 16:10 screens. Meanwhile, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. would kill their firstborn children for an additional 1/2% of margin.
IMO the story is that most laptop manufacturers are run by bean counters who can't look past the extra $5 per unit that a 16:10 screen would cost to the extra $100 they could charge for it.
(Not that I'm bitter or anything.)
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Ian Pilcher arequipeno@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/03/2013 10:58 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
I guess the story is that there is no high-vertical resolution available yet. Confirms what I have also found.
Apple is printing money selling high-end laptops with 16:10 screens. Meanwhile, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. would kill their firstborn children for an additional 1/2% of margin.
IMO the story is that most laptop manufacturers are run by bean counters who can't look past the extra $5 per unit that a 16:10 screen would cost to the extra $100 they could charge for it.
(Not that I'm bitter or anything.)
I always content that:
"I want my computer to be optimized to be a computer, NOT optimized to be a TV.
If I want a TV... I'll buy a TV. I want a computer!"
It's sad that its very hard today, to find a computer that is as capable... as high a resolution... as something that _was_ readily available and cheaply, five (or more!) years ago.
I second that motion of having a computer function as a computer. I had the opportunity when buying my latest laptop to go with something older and less capable, but having a decent screen resolution of 1920x1200 or a newer, more capable model with LESS resolution. Unfortunately, the FAD a television-like computer was far more important to the bean-counters than the stability of decent resolution. Not that I'm bitter, either! In the end I went with the higher-end newer model laptop. My Dell Alienware M18x is an excellent machine with the only real flaw was the loss of meaningfully invaluable screen real-estate. Sadly, it was done by Dell in the name of fashion and silly (in)conveinence, vice common-sense.
From: Fulko Hew fulko.hew@gmail.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: laptops with 1200 vertical resolution
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Ian Pilcher arequipeno@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/03/2013 10:58 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
I guess the story is that there is no high-vertical resolution available yet. Confirms what I have also found.
Apple is printing money selling high-end laptops with 16:10 screens. Meanwhile, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. would kill their firstborn children for an additional 1/2% of margin.
IMO the story is that most laptop manufacturers are run by bean counters who can't look past the extra $5 per unit that a 16:10 screen would cost to the extra $100 they could charge for it.
(Not that I'm bitter or anything.)
I always content that:
"I want my computer to be optimized to be a computer, NOT optimized to be a TV. If I want a TV... I'll buy a TV. I want a computer!"
It's sad that its very hard today, to find a computer that is as capable... as high a resolution... as something that _was_ readily available and cheaply, five (or more!) years ago.
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On 01/03/2013 11:07 AM, Joe Wulf issued this missive:
I second that motion of having a computer function as a computer. I had the opportunity when buying my latest laptop to go with something older and less capable, but having a decent screen resolution of 1920x1200 or a newer, more capable model with LESS resolution. Unfortunately, the FAD a television-like computer was far more important to the bean-counters than the stability of decent resolution. Not that I'm bitter, either! In the end I went with the higher-end newer model laptop. My Dell Alienware M18x is an excellent machine with the only real flaw was the loss of meaningfully invaluable screen real-estate. Sadly, it was done by Dell in the name of fashion and silly (in)conveinence, vice common-sense.
We are sadly in a minority. Too many people want 16:9 displays to watch their movies and crud and feel "cheated" if a 1080 movie gets letterboxed on a 1920x1200 monitor. This is the tyranny of the majority in action. There's not much we can do. We are massively outnumbered. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - grep me no patterns and I'll tell you no lines - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 12:27:31PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote:
On 01/03/2013 10:58 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
I guess the story is that there is no high-vertical resolution available yet. Confirms what I have also found.
Apple is printing money selling high-end laptops with 16:10 screens. Meanwhile, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. would kill their firstborn children for an additional 1/2% of margin.
IMO the story is that most laptop manufacturers are run by bean counters who can't look past the extra $5 per unit that a 16:10 screen would cost to the extra $100 they could charge for it.
(Not that I'm bitter or anything.)
what? bitter that Greed and Selfishness still haunt much of society? <<censored>>
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On 01/03/2013 08:51 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 12:27:31PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote:
On 01/03/2013 10:58 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
I guess the story is that there is no high-vertical resolution available yet. Confirms what I have also found.
Apple is printing money selling high-end laptops with 16:10 screens. Meanwhile, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. would kill their firstborn children for an additional 1/2% of margin.
IMO the story is that most laptop manufacturers are run by bean counters who can't look past the extra $5 per unit that a 16:10 screen would cost to the extra $100 they could charge for it.
(Not that I'm bitter or anything.)
what? bitter that Greed and Selfishness still haunt much of society? <<censored>>
Actually no. I'm OK with greed and selfishness. It's the sheer stupidity of the situation.
In fact, I think this situation would benefit from a bit more greed -- i.e. a manufacturer willing to take a risk on truly well designed, high- end laptops for Windows (let's be realistic) users. Right now, they all seems to be simply ceding the high-margin laptop market to Apple; it's pathetic.
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:58:55AM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:41:06 -0600 Richard Shaw hobbes1069@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Dale Dellutri daledellutri@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.ignored@inbox.com wrote:
Hi,
I will be in the market for a laptop pretty soon, and would like to find a laptop with 1200 vertical resolution (at the very least). I looked around a couple of websites (Dell, Toshiba, Thinkpad) some but was unable to spot much (did not look at everything). Are these available anymore? What would you recommend?
It's pretty easy to google this: laptop 1920x1200 For example, this result http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/38302133 laments the unavailability of 1920x1200 and mentions two previously produced laptops with that resolution. I'm sure you could still get them refurbished.
Unless it also has a really large screen I didn't like my last workstation laptop that had 1900x1200 resolution. Everything was tiny and my eyes aren't that old yet :)
I guess the story is that there is no high-vertical resolution available yet. Confirms what I have also found.
IMO, high vertical resolutions are very useful for reading documents and editing and bug-fixing code. Not having them anymore is a real disappointment.
the closest I've seen to that is the standalone monitor I have at home, 2048x1152 which is pretty unusual, but still not what you wanted.
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:41:06 -0600 Richard Shaw hobbes1069@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Dale Dellutri daledellutri@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.ignored@inbox.com wrote:
Hi,
I will be in the market for a laptop pretty soon, and would like to find a laptop with 1200 vertical resolution (at the very least). I looked around a couple of websites (Dell, Toshiba, Thinkpad) some but was unable to spot much (did not look at everything). Are these available anymore? What would you recommend?
It's pretty easy to google this: laptop 1920x1200 For example, this result http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/38302133 laments the unavailability of 1920x1200 and mentions two previously produced laptops with that resolution. I'm sure you could still get them refurbished.
Unless it also has a really large screen I didn't like my last workstation laptop that had 1900x1200 resolution. Everything was tiny and my eyes aren't that old yet :)
I guess the story is that there is no high-vertical resolution available yet. Confirms what I have also found.
IMO, high vertical resolutions are very useful for reading documents and editing and bug-fixing code. Not having them anymore is a real disappointment.
Ranjan
On 01/03/2013 04:52 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Hi,
I will be in the market for a laptop pretty soon, and would like to find a laptop with 1200 vertical resolution (at the very least). I looked around a couple of websites (Dell, Toshiba, Thinkpad) some but was unable to spot much (did not look at everything). Are these available anymore? What would you recommend?
Laptop resolution of more than 1920x1080 is almost extinct. Damned HDTV economy of scale is killing any other format.
We can only hope things will change because: 1) apple ipad 3/4 and samsung nexus 10 may awake other companies 2) HDTV will move to 4k, after wasting some time with 3D 3) smartphones have reached 1920x1080 and going to surpass laptops
If only we could stop saying "HD screen" and instead call it "2.0 megapixels"... The megapixels war worked on cameras...
See also: https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts/ByVPmsSeSEG
On 01/04/2013 09:29 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
Laptop resolution of more than 1920x1080 is almost extinct. Damned HDTV economy of scale is killing any other format.
That's the story, but it doesn't hold water ... unless there's a part of the world where people are buying a lot of 13" and 15" HDTVs.
Roberto Ragusa:
Laptop resolution of more than 1920x1080 is almost extinct. Damned HDTV economy of scale is killing any other format.
Ian Pilcher:
That's the story, but it doesn't hold water ... unless there's a part of the world where people are buying a lot of 13" and 15" HDTVs.
I read the /damnation/ as being that the laptops are being produced, mostly, for people doing rather dumb computing and watching DVDs on their laptop, so the manufacturers are only producing laptop screens with only a high enough resolution for those jobs. Rather than the medium resolution LCD panels being produced for laptops and domestic television screens.
I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Australia, high resolution TV has been a bit of a flop. We only have about 3 high res TV channels out of about 16, and much of what they put to air is standard resolution, anyway. And, oddly enough, one of the better looking programs is a 1980s UK TV program shot using 900 line resolution tube cameras; bumped up to high res it looks very nice, compare that to modern 4:3 CCD studio cameras which rarely went above 750 line resolution. Then there's the several heavily compressed standard resolution channels from the same station that looks like VHS is being put to air. And people don't seem to be complaining about it, nor even noticing. Seriously, why buy a $1000+ high res TV set when there's little of it to watch.
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