NVidia drivers cause Segmentation Faults in RH9 and Fedora Core beta

[Roberto J. Dohnert]

Hello folks, I seem to have a long running problem here.  Under RH9 I had
a major
problem with Segmentation Faults, everything I did would cause a
Segmentation Fault
(see Troubled RH9 in archives), XMMS OpenOffice.  Now I have associated
this with
the older NVidia drivers I was using, but when I upgraded the drivers to
the most
recent ones it did not cure the problem, I did save my QT apps by
upgrading my QT
which I needed to do anyway and they work.  Is there anyway to save
OpenOffice, xmms
just says segmentation fault, but Open Office RC 4 and 1.0.2 say this:

/usr/lib/tls/libGLcore.so.1 error: Line 697: Segmentation Fault : Aborting

XMMS I really could give two craps about but is there anyway to save Open
Office I
have tried to Reinstall these apps with no luck. The Nvidia driver is
version 4363

Now to the Fedora Core Team:  With the Beta release of Fedora Core I have
the same
problem with NVidia drivers, and the additional problem is that the screen
will
splash the NVidia splash screen then all will go black and I have to do a
force
reboot.  Once again upgrading thye NVidia drivers did not clear the
problem up.

Any suggestions would be helpful, if need be you can write me a private
e-mail.

[Sean Middleditch]

You aren't installing the drivers properly, or Fedora/Red Hat is munging
them up.  The NVIDIA drivers use a highly accelerated, custom GL driver,
so you have to disable the XFree86 Mesa GL driver.  Any RPM upgrades of
Mesa/XFree86 will generally overwrite the nVidia library with the
incorrect Mesa library.

You have to rerun the nvidia-installer utility after these packages are
upgraded.  You also need to read the README and make sure you installed
the driver correctly; namely, make sure your XF86Config file is setup
right (i.e., you aren't loading incorrect modules).

If you go to the NVIDIA Linux Forum, you'll get better answers than
here.  You can also find there an init script I wrote for RH9/Fedora
which on boot will *attempt to* detect and correct corrupted/munged
NVIDIA driver installations.  At least, the script works well enough for
me.  (It handles both kernel and XFree86/Mesa upgrades, assuming you
have the kernel-source package for your running kernel installed, and a
'net connection available at bootup time.)

On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 13:42, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote:
> Hello folks, I seem to have a long running problem here.  Under RH9 I had
> a major
> problem with Segmentation Faults, everything I did would cause a
> Segmentation Fault
> (see Troubled RH9 in archives), XMMS OpenOffice.  Now I have associated
> this with
> the older NVidia drivers I was using, but when I upgraded the drivers to
> the most
> recent ones it did not cure the problem, I did save my QT apps by
> upgrading my QT
> which I needed to do anyway and they work.  Is there anyway to save
> OpenOffice, xmms
> just says segmentation fault, but Open Office RC 4 and 1.0.2 say this:
>
> /usr/lib/tls/libGLcore.so.1 error: Line 697: Segmentation Fault : Aborting
>
> XMMS I really could give two craps about but is there anyway to save Open
> Office I
> have tried to Reinstall these apps with no luck. The Nvidia driver is
> version 4363
>
> Now to the Fedora Core Team:  With the Beta release of Fedora Core I have
> the same
> problem with NVidia drivers, and the additional problem is that the screen
> will
> splash the NVidia splash screen then all will go black and I have to do a
> force
> reboot.  Once again upgrading thye NVidia drivers did not clear the
> problem up.
>
> Any suggestions would be helpful, if need be you can write me a private
> e-mail.

[Sean Earp]

On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 10:42 AM, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote:
> Now to the Fedora Core Team:  With the Beta release of Fedora Core I 
> have
> the same
> problem with NVidia drivers, and the additional problem is that the 
> screen
> will
> splash the NVidia splash screen then all will go black and I have to 
> do a
> force
> reboot.  Once again upgrading thye NVidia drivers did not clear the
> problem up.

Roberto-

Bugzilla seems to be down right now http://bugzilla.redhat.com or I'd 
point you to the specific bug thread regarding NVidia drivers and Red 
Hat releases (if I recall correctly, it is one of the most active 
bugs), but the issue boils down to the fact that since NVidia releases 
their driver ONLY in a binary format (no source), Red Hat CAN AND WILL 
not help resolve any issues with the NVidia drivers.    Try checking 
out the NVidia Linux support forum at 
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14  It is 
regularly visited by the NVidia Linux driver developer(s), and is a 
pretty active forum.  Someone there should probably be able to help you 
out.   Hope this helps,

-Sean

[Matt Wilson]

On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 10:42:47AM -0700, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote:
> Now to the Fedora Core Team: With the Beta release of Fedora Core I
> have the same problem with NVidia drivers, and the additional
> problem is that the screen will splash the NVidia splash screen then
> all will go black and I have to do a force reboot.  Once again
> upgrading thye NVidia drivers did not clear the problem up.  Any
> suggestions would be helpful, if need be you can write me a private
> e-mail.

I saw these kinds of problems and tracked it down to Exec Shield a
while ago.  I don't know if there is some other change that is causing
the failure now.

Cheers,

Matt
[e-mail]
--
Matt Wilson
Manager, Base Operating Systems
Red Hat, Inc.

[TriLUG] Re: NVidia drivers cause Segmentation Faults in RH9 and Fedora Core beta

[Roberto J. Dohnert]

My next strategy is to go ahead and reinstall and use the updated drivers
from NVidia and see if that works it out. Upon contact with NVidia I
learned that with the 4363 drivers there was an incompatibility issue with
Red Hat Linux 9, thus probably the reason why Fedora Core bombed too.  I
will try it tonight and I will let you know how it goes.  Hopefully
incompatible drivers are my only problem.
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 10:42:47AM -0700, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote:
> > Now to the Fedora Core Team: With the Beta release of Fedora Core I
> > have the same problem with NVidia drivers, and the additional
> > problem is that the screen will splash the NVidia splash screen then
> > all will go black and I have to do a force reboot.  Once again
> > upgrading thye NVidia drivers did not clear the problem up.  Any
> > suggestions would be helpful, if need be you can write me a private
> > e-mail.
>
> I saw these kinds of problems and tracked it down to Exec Shield a while
> ago.  I don't know if there is some other change that is causing the
> failure now.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt
> [e-mail]
> --
> Matt Wilson
> Manager, Base Operating Systems
> Red Hat, Inc.
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[TriLUG] Re: NVidia drivers cause Segmentation Faults in RH9 and Fedora Core beta

[Chuck Wolber]

> My next strategy is to go ahead and reinstall and use the updated
> drivers from NVidia and see if that works it out. Upon contact with
> NVidia I learned that with the 4363 drivers there was an incompatibility
> issue with Red Hat Linux 9, thus probably the reason why Fedora Core
> bombed too.  I will try it tonight and I will let you know how it goes.  
> Hopefully incompatible drivers are my only problem.

Strange, I've been running RH9 under my GF4 4600 Ti for months with the
NVIDIA 4363 drivers without a single problem.

-Chuck

[Doncho N. Gunchev]

On 2003 Oct 01 Wednesday 20:42, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote:
> Hello folks, I seem to have a long running problem here.  Under RH9 I had
> a major
> problem with Segmentation Faults, everything I did would cause a
> Segmentation Fault
> (see Troubled RH9 in archives), XMMS OpenOffice.  Now I have associated
> this with
> the older NVidia drivers I was using, but when I upgraded the drivers to
> the most
> recent ones it did not cure the problem, I did save my QT apps by
> upgrading my QT
> which I needed to do anyway and they work.  Is there anyway to save
> OpenOffice, xmms
> just says segmentation fault, but Open Office RC 4 and 1.0.2 say this:
>
> /usr/lib/tls/libGLcore.so.1 error: Line 697: Segmentation Fault : Aborting
>
> XMMS I really could give two craps about but is there anyway to save Open
> Office I
> have tried to Reinstall these apps with no luck. The Nvidia driver is
> version 4363
>
> Now to the Fedora Core Team:  With the Beta release of Fedora Core I have
> the same
> problem with NVidia drivers, and the additional problem is that the screen
> will
> splash the NVidia splash screen then all will go black and I have to do a
> force
> reboot.  Once again upgrading thye NVidia drivers did not clear the
> problem up.
>
> Any suggestions would be helpful, if need be you can write me a private
> e-mail.

Go get the driver source rpm from ASPLinux and --rebuild. It works great
for me and is in rpm format :) I had Riva TNT2 (Vanta) before, now GeForce 2 MX400.
There are some special "steps" to make it work with RedHat 9, but it is all done
there...