Is pcHDTV 5500 still supported...

[D&R]

I have been using the above tuner card for tv reception/recording with MythTV
since 2008. The last upgrade was to F27 and the last kernel that could use the
card (that I am aware of) is 4.17.19-100.fc27.x86_64.

More recent kernels can not get a lock on the signal.

If the pcHDTV 5500 is no longer supported, what is a good replacement card to
get.

If it is supported what is my next step?

Thanks,

David

[Roger Heflin]

My 5500 appears to still be getting signal locks on the channels it
should on kernel 5.x and F29.

I tested with dtvscan and dtvsignal that came with the card and seems
to work for all dvb cards and was authored by  by Jack Kelliher .

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:08 PM D&R  wrote:
> I have been using the above tuner card for tv reception/recording with MythTV
> since 2008. The last upgrade was to F27 and the last kernel that could use the
> card (that I am aware of) is 4.17.19-100.fc27.x86_64.
>
> More recent kernels can not get a lock on the signal.
>
> If the pcHDTV 5500 is no longer supported, what is a good replacement card to
> get.
>
> If it is supported what is my next step?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
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[D&R]

Thanks for your reply.

On Tue, 14 May 2019 15:15:23 -0500
[e-mail] wrote:
> My 5500 appears to still be getting signal locks on the channels it
> should on kernel 5.x and F29.
>
> I tested with dtvscan and dtvsignal that came with the card and seems
> to work for all dvb cards and was authored by  by Jack Kelliher .

I tried to use both programs as above. I downloaded the tar file
(http://pchdtv.com/downloads/dvb-atsc-tools-1.0.7.tgz) from the pchdtv website.
Neither program would make. The error was:
#include <linux/videodev.h> No such file or directory
Doing a dnf provides */linux/videodev.h
Found nothing.

NEXT:

I also downloaded the driver
(http://pchdtv.com/downloads/v4l-dvb-HD-5500-driver.tar.gz) and that did not
make either. The error was 
make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.

but I was booted under 4.20.6-100.fc28.x86_64
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:08 PM D&R  wrote:
> > I have been using the above tuner card for tv reception/recording with
> > MythTV since 2008. The last upgrade was to F27 and the last kernel that
> > could use the card (that I am aware of) is 4.17.19-100.fc27.x86_64.
> >
> > More recent kernels can not get a lock on the signal.
> >
> > If the pcHDTV 5500 is no longer supported, what is a good replacement card
> > to get.
> >
> > If it is supported what is my next step?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David
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[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/14/19 9:33 PM, D&R wrote:
> I tried to use both programs as above. I downloaded the tar file
> (http://pchdtv.com/downloads/dvb-atsc-tools-1.0.7.tgz) from the pchdtv website.
> Neither program would make. The error was:
> #include <linux/videodev.h> No such file or directory
> Doing a dnf provides */linux/videodev.h
> Found nothing.

I've seen suggestions that it should be changed to <libv4l1-videodev.h> 
instead which is provided by libv4l-devel.
> I also downloaded the driver
> (http://pchdtv.com/downloads/v4l-dvb-HD-5500-driver.tar.gz) and that did not
> make either. The error was
> make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
>
> but I was booted under 4.20.6-100.fc28.x86_64

You need to install "kernel-devel".

[D&R]

On Tue, 14 May 2019 22:53:29 -0700
[e-mail] wrote:
> On 5/14/19 9:33 PM, D&R wrote:
> > I tried to use both programs as above. I downloaded the tar file
> > (http://pchdtv.com/downloads/dvb-atsc-tools-1.0.7.tgz) from the pchdtv
> > website. Neither program would make. The error was:
> > #include <linux/videodev.h> No such file or directory
> > Doing a dnf provides */linux/videodev.h
> > Found nothing.
>
> I've seen suggestions that it should be changed to <libv4l1-videodev.h> 
> instead which is provided by libv4l-devel.
> > I also downloaded the driver
> > (http://pchdtv.com/downloads/v4l-dvb-HD-5500-driver.tar.gz) and that did
> > not make either. The error was
> > make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or
> > directory.  Stop.
> >
> > but I was booted under 4.20.6-100.fc28.x86_64

I have booted F28, I have the following installed:
kernel-devel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
kernel-headers-5.0.9-100.fc28.x86_64 (this shows to be the latest one)

When I make the driver as above I get the same error message.
make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or
directory

I have not done a make file in years and years. Am I missing a package or
something else?
> You need to install "kernel-devel".
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[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/15/19 8:21 AM, D&R wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2019 22:53:29 -0700
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > On 5/14/19 9:33 PM, D&R wrote:
> > > I tried to use both programs as above. I downloaded the tar file
> > > (http://pchdtv.com/downloads/dvb-atsc-tools-1.0.7.tgz) from the pchdtv
> > > website. Neither program would make. The error was:
> > > #include <linux/videodev.h> No such file or directory
> > > Doing a dnf provides */linux/videodev.h
> > > Found nothing.
> >
> > I've seen suggestions that it should be changed to <libv4l1-videodev.h>
> > instead which is provided by libv4l-devel.
> > > I also downloaded the driver
> > > (http://pchdtv.com/downloads/v4l-dvb-HD-5500-driver.tar.gz) and that did
> > > not make either. The error was
> > > make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or
> > > directory.  Stop.
> > >
> > > but I was booted under 4.20.6-100.fc28.x86_64
>
> I have booted F28, I have the following installed:
> kernel-devel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> kernel-headers-5.0.9-100.fc28.x86_64 (this shows to be the latest one)

That is odd, they should match, although it might not matter since I 
think you only need the -devel one.
> When I make the driver as above I get the same error message.
> make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or
> directory
>
> I have not done a make file in years and years. Am I missing a package or
> something else?

You need to be running the kernel that matches the kernel-devel package 
or else you need to pass a parameter to make to select the right kernel. 
  But you will need to boot that kernel anyway to use the module.

[D&R]

On Wed, 15 May 2019 08:27:09 -0700
[e-mail] wrote:
> On 5/15/19 8:21 AM, D&R wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 May 2019 22:53:29 -0700
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > On 5/14/19 9:33 PM, D&R wrote:
> > > > I tried to use both programs as above. I downloaded the tar file
> > > > (http://pchdtv.com/downloads/dvb-atsc-tools-1.0.7.tgz) from the pchdtv
> > > > website. Neither program would make. The error was:
> > > > #include <linux/videodev.h> No such file or directory
> > > > Doing a dnf provides */linux/videodev.h
> > > > Found nothing.
> > >
> > > I've seen suggestions that it should be changed to <libv4l1-videodev.h>
> > > instead which is provided by libv4l-devel.
> > > > I also downloaded the driver
> > > > (http://pchdtv.com/downloads/v4l-dvb-HD-5500-driver.tar.gz) and that did
> > > > not make either. The error was
> > > > make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or
> > > > directory.  Stop.
> > > >
> > > > but I was booted under 4.20.6-100.fc28.x86_64
> >
> > I have booted F28, I have the following installed:
> > kernel-devel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> > kernel-headers-5.0.9-100.fc28.x86_64 (this shows to be the latest one)
>
> That is odd, they should match, although it might not matter since I 
> think you only need the -devel one.

Rebooted 5.0.13 and removed kernel-headers. Ran make.
Same results.
> > When I make the driver as above I get the same error message.
> > make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or
> > directory
> >
> > I have not done a make file in years and years. Am I missing a package or
> > something else?
>
> You need to be running the kernel that matches the kernel-devel package 
> or else you need to pass a parameter to make to select the right kernel. 
>   But you will need to boot that kernel anyway to use the module.

Sorry, I did not mention that I had rebooted to the 5.0.13 kernel before I did
the above.

I am going to install Fedora 7 in a VM and see what happens.
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[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/15/19 9:24 AM, D&R wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2019 08:27:09 -0700
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > You need to be running the kernel that matches the kernel-devel package
> > or else you need to pass a parameter to make to select the right kernel.
> >    But you will need to boot that kernel anyway to use the module.
>
> Sorry, I did not mention that I had rebooted to the 5.0.13 kernel before I did
> the above.

Can you paste the error message you are getting now?

[D&R]

On Wed, 15 May 2019 11:37:35 -0700
[e-mail] wrote:
> On 5/15/19 9:24 AM, D&R wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 May 2019 08:27:09 -0700
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > You need to be running the kernel that matches the kernel-devel package
> > > or else you need to pass a parameter to make to select the right kernel.
> > >    But you will need to boot that kernel anyway to use the module.
> >
> > Sorry, I did not mention that I had rebooted to the 5.0.13 kernel before I
> > did the above.
>
> Can you paste the error message you are getting now?

installed kernel packages:
kernel-core-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
kernel-devel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
kernel-modules-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
kernel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64

Results of make:
make -C /home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l 
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l'
scripts/make_makefile.pl
creating symbolic links...
make -C /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build SUBDIRS=/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l CFLAGS="-I../linux/include -D__KERNEL__ -I/lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build/include -DEXPORT_SYMTAB" modules
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l'
make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l'
make[1]: *** [Makefile:9: default] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l'
make: *** [Makefile:25: all] Error 2

The Makefile is:
BUILD_DIR := $(shell pwd)/v4l
REPO_PULL := http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
ifeq ($(REPO_PUSH),)
  ifneq ($(CHANGE_LOG_LOGIN),)
        REPO_PUSH := ssh://$(CHANGE_LOG_LOGIN)@linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
  else
        REPO_PUSH := ssh://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
  endif
endif

ifeq ($(EDITOR),)
  ifeq ($(VISUAL),)
        EDITOR := vi
  else
        EDITOR := $(VISUAL)
  endif
endif

all:

install:
        $(MAKE) -C $(BUILD_DIR) install

%::
        $(MAKE) -C $(BUILD_DIR) $(MAKECMDGOALS)

commit cvscommit hgcommit change changes changelog:: whitespace
        cd $(BUILD_DIR); scripts/cardlist; cd ..
        v4l/scripts/prep_commit_msg.pl >/tmp/v4l_hg_commit.msg
        $(EDITOR) /tmp/v4l_hg_commit.msg
        grep -v ^# /tmp/v4l_hg_commit.msg | hg commit -l -
        @echo "*** PLEASE CHECK IF LOG IS OK:"
        @hg log -v -r -1
        @echo "*** If not ok, do hg undo and make commit again"

pull update v4l-update::
        @echo "Pulling changes from master repository $(REPO_PULL)"
        -hg pull -u $(REPO_PULL)

push::
        @echo "Pushing changes to master repository $(REPO_PUSH)"
        -hg push $(REPO_PUSH)

whitespace:
        @echo "Cleaning bad whitespaces"
        @v4l/scripts/strip-trailing-whitespaces.sh | patch -p0
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[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/15/19 11:48 AM, D&R wrote:
> installed kernel packages:
> kernel-core-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> kernel-devel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> kernel-modules-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> kernel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
>
> Results of make:
> make -C /home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l
> make[1]: Entering directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l'
> scripts/make_makefile.pl
> creating symbolic links...
> make -C /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build SUBDIRS=/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l CFLAGS="-I../linux/include -D__KERNEL__ -I/lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build/include -DEXPORT_SYMTAB" modules
> make[2]: Entering directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l'
> make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
> make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l'
> make[1]: *** [Makefile:9: default] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l'
> make: *** [Makefile:25: all] Error 2

Something is confused.  Try running "make clean" first.

I just tried building it and I'm pretty sure it's never going to work. 
That's a really old source tree.  If you really want to build it from 
source, look for something recent at https://git.linuxtv.org/.  But why 
are you even trying to build this?  All of this should already be in the 
current kernel.

[D&R]

On Wed, 15 May 2019 13:35:25 -0700
[e-mail] wrote:
> On 5/15/19 11:48 AM, D&R wrote:
> > installed kernel packages:
> > kernel-core-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> > kernel-devel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> > kernel-modules-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> > kernel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> >
> > Results of make:
> > make -C /home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l
> > make[1]: Entering directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l'
> > scripts/make_makefile.pl
> > creating symbolic links...
> > make -C /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build
> > SUBDIRS=/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l CFLAGS="-I../linux/include
> > -D__KERNEL__ -I/lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build/include
> > -DEXPORT_SYMTAB" modules make[2]: Entering directory
> > '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l' make[2]:
> > *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or directory.
> > Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l' make[1]:
> > *** [Makefile:9: default] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory
> > '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l' make: *** [Makefile:25: all] Error 2
>
> Something is confused.  Try running "make clean" first.

running make clean then make got the same results.
> I just tried building it and I'm pretty sure it's never going to work. 
> That's a really old source tree.  If you really want to build it from 
> source, look for something recent at https://git.linuxtv.org/.  But why 
> are you even trying to build this?

The last kernel that could get a lock on a tv signal was F27 using
the 4.17.19-100.fc27.x86_64.
> All of this should already be in the 
> current kernel.

I thought the same thing. But since it was not working I tried other methods.

I use MythTV. Perhaps there is a package(s) that is not installed in F28.

What package(s) for video/audio do I need installed?
Perhaps one or more is not installed or is corrupted?
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Solved: Re: Is pcHDTV 5500 still supported...

[D&R]

On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:52:46 -0500
[e-mail] wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2019 13:35:25 -0700
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > On 5/15/19 11:48 AM, D&R wrote:
> > > installed kernel packages:
> > > kernel-core-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> > > kernel-devel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> > > kernel-modules-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> > > kernel-5.0.13-100.fc28.x86_64
> > >
> > > Results of make:
> > > make -C /home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l
> > > make[1]: Entering directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l'
> > > scripts/make_makefile.pl
> > > creating symbolic links...
> > > make -C /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build
> > > SUBDIRS=/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l CFLAGS="-I../linux/include
> > > -D__KERNEL__ -I/lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build/include
> > > -DEXPORT_SYMTAB" modules make[2]: Entering directory
> > > '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l' make[2]:
> > > *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or directory.
> > > Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l' make[1]:
> > > *** [Makefile:9: default] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory
> > > '/home/G/packages/v4l-dvb/v4l' make: *** [Makefile:25: all] Error 2
> >
> > Something is confused.  Try running "make clean" first.
>
> running make clean then make got the same results.
> > I just tried building it and I'm pretty sure it's never going to work. 
> > That's a really old source tree.  If you really want to build it from 
> > source, look for something recent at https://git.linuxtv.org/.  But why 
> > are you even trying to build this?
>
> The last kernel that could get a lock on a tv signal was F27 using
> the 4.17.19-100.fc27.x86_64.
> > All of this should already be in the 
> > current kernel.
>
> I thought the same thing. But since it was not working I tried other methods.
>
> I use MythTV. Perhaps there is a package(s) that is not installed in F28.
>
> What package(s) for video/audio do I need installed?
> Perhaps one or more is not installed or is corrupted?

With the comments I have received I decided to do an install of F29.

F29 works as expected. There must have been a missing/corrupted package/driver.

Thanks to all for your help with my problem.

David
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[Roger Heflin]

I am using the default driver built into the kernel and it works.

I compiled those files a really long time ago, and they still work o
f29 for me, but it sounds like they may not recompile with current
headers with no changes.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 11:34 PM D&R  wrote:
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> On Tue, 14 May 2019 15:15:23 -0500
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > My 5500 appears to still be getting signal locks on the channels it
> > should on kernel 5.x and F29.
> >
> > I tested with dtvscan and dtvsignal that came with the card and seems
> > to work for all dvb cards and was authored by  by Jack Kelliher .
>
> I tried to use both programs as above. I downloaded the tar file
> (http://pchdtv.com/downloads/dvb-atsc-tools-1.0.7.tgz) from the pchdtv website.
> Neither program would make. The error was:
> #include <linux/videodev.h> No such file or directory
> Doing a dnf provides */linux/videodev.h
> Found nothing.
>
> NEXT:
>
> I also downloaded the driver
> (http://pchdtv.com/downloads/v4l-dvb-HD-5500-driver.tar.gz) and that did not
> make either. The error was
> make[2]: *** /lib/modules/4.0.6-100.fc28.x86_64/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
>
> but I was booted under 4.20.6-100.fc28.x86_64
> > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:08 PM D&R  wrote:
> > > I have been using the above tuner card for tv reception/recording with
> > > MythTV since 2008. The last upgrade was to F27 and the last kernel that
> > > could use the card (that I am aware of) is 4.17.19-100.fc27.x86_64.
> > >
> > > More recent kernels can not get a lock on the signal.
> > >
> > > If the pcHDTV 5500 is no longer supported, what is a good replacement card
> > > to get.
> > >
> > > If it is supported what is my next step?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > David
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