Yum Extender

[John Moore]

I just installed the Yum Extender and it is great!!  Don't have to go
back and forth between user and root, the updates work AND it is soooooo
much easier to add packages using this tool.  Great suggestion!!

John Moore
Manager, IS
Quality Care for Children
Atlanta, Georgia
404-479-4180


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Database Server:  Fedora Core 3

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 01:53:11PM -0400, John Moore (Linux Server) wrote:
>  I just installed the Yum Extender and it is great!!  Don't have
> to go
>  back and forth between user and root, the updates work AND it is soooooo
>  much easier to add packages using this tool.  Great suggestion!! 
You shouldn't have to go back and forth between user and root with regular
yum either. 

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Matthew Miller           mattdm(a)mattdm.org        <http://www.mattdm.org/>
Boston University Linux      ------>                <http://linux.bu.edu/>
Current office temperature: 77 degrees Fahrenheit.

[Robert Spangler]

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On Friday 29 April 2005 14:05, Matthew Miller wrote:

>   On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 01:53:11PM -0400, John Moore (Linux Server)
> wrote:
>   > I just installed the Yum Extender and it is great!!  Don't have to go
>   > back and forth between user and root, the updates work AND it is soooooo
>   > much easier to add packages using this tool.  Great suggestion!!
>
>   You shouldn't have to go back and forth between user and root with regular
>   yum either. 
Really?  I do.

Start yum and it complains that I'm not root


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Regards
Robert

Smile... it increases your face value!
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[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 05:09:39PM -0400, Robert Spangler wrote:
>  >  You shouldn't have to go back and forth between user and
> root with
>  >  regular yum either.
>  Really?  I do.
>  Start yum and it complains that I'm not root 
But rather than totally switching to root, do "sudo yum whatever". (And
configure sudo properly, of course.) This is effectively what yumex is
doing, although it does it via consolehelper instead of sudo. You could even
make yum use consolehelper if you really wanted.

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Matthew Miller           mattdm(a)mattdm.org        <http://www.mattdm.org/>
Boston University Linux      ------>                <http://linux.bu.edu/>
Current office temperature: 80 degrees Fahrenheit.

[Temlakos]

Robert Spangler wrote:
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>  On Friday 29 April 2005 14:05, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  
>  
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 01:53:11PM -0400, John Moore (Linux Server) wrote:
> > > I just installed the Yum Extender and it is great!!  Don't have to go
> > > back and forth between user and root, the updates work AND it is soooooo
> > > much easier to add packages using this tool.  Great suggestion!!
> >
> > You shouldn't have to go back and forth between user and root with regular
> > yum either.
>  
>  
>  Really?  I do.
>  
>  Start yum and it complains that I'm not root
>  
>  
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>  
>  Regards
>  Robert 
Well, sure you have to expect that.

But when you start Yum Extender, it /will/ ask you to specify the root 
password. Now, sure, it asks you that just once--but you /do/ have to 
supply it.

Nevertheless, I heartily recommend yumex, for a whole host of reasons. 
It gives me everything I wanted in a GUI front-end, while allowing me to 
see what it's doing (through its Output window), just as I can see right 
now on the command line.

A very valuable customization and administration tool--and one I would 
like to see made part of Fedora Core, or Fedora Extras at least.

Temlakos

[Timothy Murphy]

Temlakos wrote:

>  Nevertheless, I heartily recommend yumex, for a whole host of
> reasons.
>  It gives me everything I wanted in a GUI front-end, while allowing me to
>  see what it's doing (through its Output window), just as I can see right
>  now on the command line.
>  
>  A very valuable customization and administration tool--and one I would
>  like to see made part of Fedora Core, or Fedora Extras at least. 
Sorry to be negative, but I installed and tried yumex,
and found it more or less useless.
Or maybe I lack the necessary intelligence to use it.

When I click on Update I'm prompted to fill in something for "Filter",
whatever that means.
When I click "Select all" at the bottom of the page
and then click the second "Update" item (why two?)
I'm told "No packages selected".

I think that quite a lot of work needs to be done on this
before it is accepted as a standard part of Fedora.


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Timothy Murphy  
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[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 01:53:50PM +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  When I click on Update I'm prompted to fill in something for
> "Filter",
>  whatever that means.
>  When I click "Select all" at the bottom of the page
>  and then click the second "Update" item (why two?)
>  I'm told "No packages selected".
>  I think that quite a lot of work needs to be done on this
>  before it is accepted as a standard part of Fedora. 
It's pretty new and the UI could use some work. This is probably exactly the
kind of feedback the author could use (although obviously it's most helpful
when expressed construtively).

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Matthew Miller           mattdm(a)mattdm.org        <http://www.mattdm.org/>
Boston University Linux      ------>                <http://linux.bu.edu/>
Current office temperature: 72 degrees Fahrenheit.

[Temlakos]

Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  Temlakos wrote:
>  
>  
> >Nevertheless, I heartily recommend yumex, for a whole host of reasons.
> >It gives me everything I wanted in a GUI front-end, while allowing me to
> >see what it's doing (through its Output window), just as I can see right
> >now on the command line.
> >
> >A very valuable customization and administration tool--and one I would
> >like to see made part of Fedora Core, or Fedora Extras at least.
>  
>  
>  Sorry to be negative, but I installed and tried yumex,
>  and found it more or less useless.
>  Or maybe I lack the necessary intelligence to use it.
>  
>  When I click on Update I'm prompted to fill in something for "Filter",
>  whatever that means.
>  When I click "Select all" at the bottom of the page
>  and then click the second "Update" item (why two?)
>  I'm told "No packages selected".
>  
>  I think that quite a lot of work needs to be done on this
>  before it is accepted as a standard part of Fedora.
>   
Are you sure, when you visit the Update screen, that you even /have/ 
anything to update? I notice that when my RHN icon shows a blue 
checkmark, yumex's Update screen shows no package names, because no 
updates are available. But when I see the red screamer, and all the 
mirrors have the updates, /now/ the Update screen shows those packages 
for which updates are now available.

The filter allows you to select only those packages beginning with a 
certain name, or having certain character strings in their names.

I'll grant you that Synaptic (when the package isn't broken, as it is 
now until Axel promulgates a key component to the at-stable branch of 
his repository) allows you to search packages by type, which yumex does 
not--yet. But as long as Fedora is going to include yum as a package 
manager, and if you /want/ a GUI, then yumex is the best I've found so far.

Temlakos