F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

[Robert Moskowitz]

I have a refurbished x131e.  I pulled the 320G HD and installed an empty 
500GB SSD.  From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.

In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the host 
name, left the drive setup as default.  Then I selected a bunch of 
software.  I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the 
right.  About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download.  I 
proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my user ID.

The download completed as did the rpms installs.  The kernel build I 
think completed.  My attention was elsewhere when the system just turned 
off.

Bip.

Off.

I pulled the USB CD and powered up.  It shut right off.
I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and 
seems to select the first one.  Then it shuts off.

I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.

Now what?  Anyone aware of anything like this?  Should I try the install 
again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?

Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see on 
about the system and status of the drive?

thanks

[Igor Bezrodnik]

Do you know what is your gpu unit?
Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->  
https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64...
or torrent 
https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torren...
Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
| grep -i --color 'vga|3d|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
that not  successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I have a refurbished x131e.  I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
> empty 
> 500GB SSD.  From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.
>
> In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
> host 
> name, left the drive setup as default.  Then I selected a bunch of 
> software.  I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the 
> right.  About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download.  I 
> proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
> user ID.
>
> The download completed as did the rpms installs.  The kernel build I 
> think completed.  My attention was elsewhere when the system just
> turned 
> off.
>
> Bip.
>
> Off.
>
> I pulled the USB CD and powered up.  It shut right off.
> I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and 
> seems to select the first one.  Then it shuts off.
>
> I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.
>
> Now what?  Anyone aware of anything like this?  Should I try the
> install 
> again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?
>
> Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
> on 
> about the system and status of the drive?
>
> thanks
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[Robert Moskowitz]

This is really bad.  It won't get past the Lenovo logo screen with the 
USB CD/DVD drive attached.  It shuts down immediately.  No listening to 
F12.  Even without the drive, I can't get it to respond to any keystroke 
before shutting down.

Either the boot info is totally hosed from the install (had that happen 
many releases ago on my x120e, but not as sever).
or the drive is bad.

I have the Win10 drive still here.  I am going to have to put it in and 
hopefully get the system to boot.

On 6/20/19 6:40 PM, Igor Bezrodnik wrote:
> Do you know what is your gpu unit?
> Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->
> https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64...
> or torrent
> https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torren...
> Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
> | grep -i --color 'vga|3d|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
> that not  successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
> On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > I have a refurbished x131e.  I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
> > empty
> > 500GB SSD.  From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.
> >
> > In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
> > host
> > name, left the drive setup as default.  Then I selected a bunch of
> > software.  I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the
> > right.  About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download.  I
> > proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
> > user ID.
> >
> > The download completed as did the rpms installs.  The kernel build I
> > think completed.  My attention was elsewhere when the system just
> > turned
> > off.
> >
> > Bip.
> >
> > Off.
> >
> > I pulled the USB CD and powered up.  It shut right off.
> > I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and
> > seems to select the first one.  Then it shuts off.
> >
> > I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.
> >
> > Now what?  Anyone aware of anything like this?  Should I try the
> > install
> > again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?
> >
> > Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
> > on
> > about the system and status of the drive?
> >
> > thanks
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[Andrey Ponomarenko]

Looks like internal hardware problem. Unplug the power adapter and battery and then try to remove and install again the drive, memory and other removable parts.

21.06.2019, 04:18, "Robert Moskowitz" :
> This is really bad.  It won't get past the Lenovo logo screen with the
> USB CD/DVD drive attached.  It shuts down immediately.  No listening to
> F12.  Even without the drive, I can't get it to respond to any keystroke
> before shutting down.
>
> Either the boot info is totally hosed from the install (had that happen
> many releases ago on my x120e, but not as sever).
> or the drive is bad.
>
> I have the Win10 drive still here.  I am going to have to put it in and
> hopefully get the system to boot.
>
> On 6/20/19 6:40 PM, Igor Bezrodnik wrote:
> > Do you know what is your gpu unit?
> >  Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->
> >  https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64...
> >  or torrent
> >  https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torren...
> >  Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
> >  | grep -i --color 'vga|3d|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
> >  that not successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
> >  On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > > I have a refurbished x131e. I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
> > >  empty
> > >  500GB SSD. From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.
> > >
> > > In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
> > >  host
> > >  name, left the drive setup as default. Then I selected a bunch of
> > >  software. I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the
> > >  right. About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download. I
> > >  proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
> > >  user ID.
> > >
> > > The download completed as did the rpms installs. The kernel build I
> > >  think completed. My attention was elsewhere when the system just
> > >  turned
> > >  off.
> > >
> > > Bip.
> > >
> > > Off.
> > >
> > > I pulled the USB CD and powered up. It shut right off.
> > >  I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and
> > >  seems to select the first one. Then it shuts off.
> > >
> > > I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.
> > >
> > > Now what? Anyone aware of anything like this? Should I try the
> > >  install
> > >  again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?
> > >
> > > Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
> > >  on
> > >  about the system and status of the drive?
> > >
> > > thanks
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[Robert Moskowitz]

I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.

I put in the Win10 HD.  It starts to boot and the windows logo starts 
spinning and the system promptly shuts down.

It may be memory, and I will have to see if I have any matching memory 
here (see if it uses the same as my x120e which I have a number of).

I am concerned this happened at the step where the EFI is updated. This 
happened to my back in maybe F21?  There the system would still boot of 
LiveCD and we were able to make manual changes for the booting.  But 
burned once...

Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check on 
memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?

thanks

On 6/20/19 6:40 PM, Igor Bezrodnik wrote:
> Do you know what is your gpu unit?
> Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->
> https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64...
> or torrent
> https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torren...
> Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
> | grep -i --color 'vga|3d|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
> that not  successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
> On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > I have a refurbished x131e.  I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
> > empty
> > 500GB SSD.  From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.
> >
> > In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
> > host
> > name, left the drive setup as default.  Then I selected a bunch of
> > software.  I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the
> > right.  About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download.  I
> > proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
> > user ID.
> >
> > The download completed as did the rpms installs.  The kernel build I
> > think completed.  My attention was elsewhere when the system just
> > turned
> > off.
> >
> > Bip.
> >
> > Off.
> >
> > I pulled the USB CD and powered up.  It shut right off.
> > I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and
> > seems to select the first one.  Then it shuts off.
> >
> > I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.
> >
> > Now what?  Anyone aware of anything like this?  Should I try the
> > install
> > again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?
> >
> > Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
> > on
> > about the system and status of the drive?
> >
> > thanks
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[stan]

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 11:54:52 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.
> Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check
> on memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?

First recommendation is relax.  The system won't get worse by letting
it sit.  But urgency and panic will lead you to make mistakes.  Be
methodical.  Before you do something, write down why you are doing
it, write down the steps to take, and follow the recipe.  At the end,
mark it success or fail, so you have a record of what you've done.

Second, someone else already suggested it, but reseat all the
components.  You've been pulling things out and putting them in, you
could have jostled something, especially memory, but other connectors
also.

It might be memory, but it could also be the power supply.  Or a bad
battery on the motherboard (if they still have those little pancake
batteries that preserve settings).  Unless you zapped something with
ESD (electrostatic discharge), if things were working before, they
should still work.

Make sure the interior is clear of dust while you are in there,
including the power supply.

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 6/21/19 1:36 PM, stan via users wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 11:54:52 -0400
> Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> > I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.
> > Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check
> > on memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?
>
> First recommendation is relax.

I am relaxed.  Feel the muscle tension wash out.  From the eyebrows to 
the toes.  :)
> The system won't get worse by letting it sit.  But urgency and panic will lead you to make mistakes.

Fortunately no reboot counters here to lock the system really up.
> Be methodical.  Before you do something, write down why you are doing
> it, write down the steps to take, and follow the recipe.  At the end,
> mark it success or fail, so you have a record of what you've done.

I got a little list.
> Second, someone else already suggested it, but reseat all the
> components.  You've been pulling things out and putting them in, you
> could have jostled something, especially memory, but other connectors
> also.

To get to anything more will require pulling the keyboard.  that is a 
real big task on a Lenovo.
> It might be memory, but it could also be the power supply.  Or a bad
> battery on the motherboard (if they still have those little pancake
> batteries that preserve settings).  Unless you zapped something with
> ESD (electrostatic discharge), if things were working before, they
> should still work.

Rather humid here, so static was not likely.  I think the best memory 
test is different memory, which is why I have to see if I have something 
here that matches.
> Make sure the interior is clear of dust while you are in there,
> including the power supply.

Recently purchased referb.  I ran its Win10 for a month to make sure it 
was not almost dead.  The SSD was brand new.

It ran well, doing the install of >1500 rpms and built the kernel before 
it died.  I first concern was heat death.  It did not feel hot.  My 
x120e gets hot, this 131 was not hot when it shut off the first time.

The way it stopped, makes me think it was at the write boot instructions 
and really messed up (bricked), or memory died.

First work with the memory before going shopping on ebay again.

[Robert Moskowitz]

x120e memory is different than the x130e so no shortcut there.

On 6/21/19 2:40 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> On 6/21/19 1:36 PM, stan via users wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 11:54:52 -0400
> > Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> > > I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.
> > > Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check
> > > on memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?
> >
> > First recommendation is relax.
>
> I am relaxed.  Feel the muscle tension wash out.  From the eyebrows to 
> the toes.  :)
> > The system won't get worse by letting it sit.  But urgency and panic 
> > will lead you to make mistakes.
>
> Fortunately no reboot counters here to lock the system really up.
> > Be methodical.  Before you do something, write down why you are doing
> > it, write down the steps to take, and follow the recipe.  At the end,
> > mark it success or fail, so you have a record of what you've done.
>
> I got a little list.
> > Second, someone else already suggested it, but reseat all the
> > components.  You've been pulling things out and putting them in, you
> > could have jostled something, especially memory, but other connectors
> > also.
>
> To get to anything more will require pulling the keyboard.  that is a 
> real big task on a Lenovo.
> > It might be memory, but it could also be the power supply.  Or a bad
> > battery on the motherboard (if they still have those little pancake
> > batteries that preserve settings).  Unless you zapped something with
> > ESD (electrostatic discharge), if things were working before, they
> > should still work.
>
> Rather humid here, so static was not likely.  I think the best memory 
> test is different memory, which is why I have to see if I have 
> something here that matches.
> > Make sure the interior is clear of dust while you are in there,
> > including the power supply.
>
> Recently purchased referb.  I ran its Win10 for a month to make sure 
> it was not almost dead.  The SSD was brand new.
>
> It ran well, doing the install of >1500 rpms and built the kernel 
> before it died.  I first concern was heat death.  It did not feel 
> hot.  My x120e gets hot, this 131 was not hot when it shut off the 
> first time.
>
> The way it stopped, makes me think it was at the write boot 
> instructions and really messed up (bricked), or memory died.
>
> First work with the memory before going shopping on ebay again.
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[Andrey Ponomarenko]

Try to boot on battery only (w/o adapter) and on AC adapter only (w/o battery). May be this is a power issue since it is able to start booting.

Memory problems usually lead to BSOD, not power off.

21.06.2019, 18:56, "Robert Moskowitz" :
> I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.
>
> I put in the Win10 HD.  It starts to boot and the windows logo starts
> spinning and the system promptly shuts down.
>
> It may be memory, and I will have to see if I have any matching memory
> here (see if it uses the same as my x120e which I have a number of).
>
> I am concerned this happened at the step where the EFI is updated. This
> happened to my back in maybe F21?  There the system would still boot of
> LiveCD and we were able to make manual changes for the booting.  But
> burned once...
>
> Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check on
> memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?
>
> thanks
>
> On 6/20/19 6:40 PM, Igor Bezrodnik wrote:
> > Do you know what is your gpu unit?
> >  Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->
> >  https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64...
> >  or torrent
> >  https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torren...
> >  Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
> >  | grep -i --color 'vga|3d|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
> >  that not successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
> >  On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > > I have a refurbished x131e. I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
> > >  empty
> > >  500GB SSD. From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.
> > >
> > > In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
> > >  host
> > >  name, left the drive setup as default. Then I selected a bunch of
> > >  software. I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the
> > >  right. About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download. I
> > >  proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
> > >  user ID.
> > >
> > > The download completed as did the rpms installs. The kernel build I
> > >  think completed. My attention was elsewhere when the system just
> > >  turned
> > >  off.
> > >
> > > Bip.
> > >
> > > Off.
> > >
> > > I pulled the USB CD and powered up. It shut right off.
> > >  I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and
> > >  seems to select the first one. Then it shuts off.
> > >
> > > I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.
> > >
> > > Now what? Anyone aware of anything like this? Should I try the
> > >  install
> > >  again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?
> > >
> > > Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
> > >  on
> > >  about the system and status of the drive?
> > >
> > > thanks
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Feeling REALLY stupid - Re: F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

[Robert Moskowitz]

Boy is a power issue!

My rats nest of power cables for all my power adapters for all the 
notebooks on my desk...

The adapter for the new notebook was unplugged and I was doing the 
install off of battery.  So just before the install finished, it shut 
off from not enough electrons.  And of course booting again in any shape 
of form would not get the system working.

How did I figure this out?  I bought another x140e on ebay and booted 
the live CD.  First thing I noticed on the status area was I was running 
on battery!

Oy vey.

Really got to get familiar with the various LEDs on the 140, different 
from the 121 that I have been using for lots of years.

So off I go to do the install over, as it did not finish.

On 6/21/19 11:17 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
> Try to boot on battery only (w/o adapter) and on AC adapter only (w/o battery). May be this is a power issue since it is able to start booting.
>
> Memory problems usually lead to BSOD, not power off.
>
> 21.06.2019, 18:56, "Robert Moskowitz" :
> > I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.
> >
> > I put in the Win10 HD.  It starts to boot and the windows logo starts
> > spinning and the system promptly shuts down.
> >
> > It may be memory, and I will have to see if I have any matching memory
> > here (see if it uses the same as my x120e which I have a number of).
> >
> > I am concerned this happened at the step where the EFI is updated. This
> > happened to my back in maybe F21?  There the system would still boot of
> > LiveCD and we were able to make manual changes for the booting.  But
> > burned once...
> >
> > Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check on
> > memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > On 6/20/19 6:40 PM, Igor Bezrodnik wrote:
> > > Do you know what is your gpu unit?
> > >   Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->
> > >   https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64...
> > >   or torrent
> > >   https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torren...
> > >   Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
> > >   | grep -i --color 'vga|3d|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
> > >   that not successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
> > >   On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > > > I have a refurbished x131e. I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
> > > >   empty
> > > >   500GB SSD. From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.
> > > >
> > > > In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
> > > >   host
> > > >   name, left the drive setup as default. Then I selected a bunch of
> > > >   software. I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the
> > > >   right. About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download. I
> > > >   proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
> > > >   user ID.
> > > >
> > > > The download completed as did the rpms installs. The kernel build I
> > > >   think completed. My attention was elsewhere when the system just
> > > >   turned
> > > >   off.
> > > >
> > > > Bip.
> > > >
> > > > Off.
> > > >
> > > > I pulled the USB CD and powered up. It shut right off.
> > > >   I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and
> > > >   seems to select the first one. Then it shuts off.
> > > >
> > > > I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.
> > > >
> > > > Now what? Anyone aware of anything like this? Should I try the
> > > >   install
> > > >   again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?
> > > >
> > > > Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
> > > >   on
> > > >   about the system and status of the drive?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
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