9:45 p.m.
Hi All,
I am trying to figure ouyt how to get cups-pdf to default
to Landscape. I have found how to get it to default
to Letter in http://127.0.0.1.:631, but not to default
to landscape.
The cups mailing list tosses my eMail for soem reason.
Does CUPS-PDF have its own mailing list by chance?
Many thanks,
-T
10:39 p.m.
On 4/24/19 10:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
I am trying to figure ouyt how to get cups-pdf to default
to Landscape. I have found how to get it to default
to Letter in http://127.0.0.1.:631, but not to default
to landscape.
The cups mailing list tosses my eMail for soem reason.
Does CUPS-PDF have its own mailing list by chance?
https://www.cups.org/doc/options.html
See...
Creating Saved Options
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11:04 p.m.
On 4/23/19 8:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 4/24/19 10:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am trying to figure ouyt how to get cups-pdf to default
> to Landscape. I have found how to get it to default
> to Letter in http://127.0.0.1.:631, but not to default
> to landscape.
>
> The cups mailing list tosses my eMail for soem reason.
> Does CUPS-PDF have its own mailing list by chance?
https://www.cups.org/doc/options.html
See...
Creating Saved Options
I am confused. :'(
11:14 p.m.
On 4/24/19 12:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 4/23/19 8:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 4/24/19 10:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am trying to figure ouyt how to get cups-pdf to default
>> to Landscape. I have found how to get it to default
>> to Letter in http://127.0.0.1.:631, but not to default
>> to landscape.
>>
>> The cups mailing list tosses my eMail for soem reason.
>> Does CUPS-PDF have its own mailing list by chance?
>
> https://www.cups.org/doc/options.html
>
> See...
>
> Creating Saved Options
I am confused. :'(
Are we supposed to guess what is confusing to you?
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12:28 a.m.
On 4/23/19 9:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 4/24/19 12:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 4/23/19 8:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 4/24/19 10:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am trying to figure ouyt how to get cups-pdf to default
>>> to Landscape. I have found how to get it to default
>>> to Letter in http://127.0.0.1.:631, but not to default
>>> to landscape.
>>>
>>> The cups mailing list tosses my eMail for soem reason.
>>> Does CUPS-PDF have its own mailing list by chance?
>>
>> https://www.cups.org/doc/options.html
>>
>> See...
>>
>> Creating Saved Options
>
> I am confused. :'(
>
Are we supposed to guess what is confusing to you?
What? You can't read my mind? Well now ...
1) -p printer/instance
2) -o name=value ...
No idea how to tell CUPS-PDF to print Landscane by default.
Is there a .conf I can edit?
Creating Saved Options
Saved options are supported in CUPS through printer instances. Printer
instances are, as their name implies, copies of a printer that have
certain options associated with them. Use the lpoptions command to
create a printer instance:
lpoptions -p printer/instance -o name=value ...
The -p printer/instance option provides the name of the instance, which
is always the printer name, a slash, and the instance name which can
contain any printable characters except space and slash. The remaining
options are then associated with the instance instead of the main queue.
For example, the following command creates a duplex instance of the
LaserJet queue:
lpoptions -p LaserJet/duplex -o sides=two-sided-long-edge
Instances do not inherit lpoptions from the main queue.
12:55 a.m.
On 4/24/19 1:28 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
No idea how to tell CUPS-PDF to print Landscane by default.
My printer is named Cups-PDF.
Prior to modification this is the printer's info...
[root@f29bk ~]# lpoptions -p Cups-PDF
copies=1 device-uri=cups-pdf:/ finishings=3 job-cancel-after=10800 job-hold-until=no-hold
job-priority=50 job-sheets=none,none marker-change-time=0 number-up=1
printer-commands=AutoConfigure,Clean,PrintSelfTestPage printer-info=Cups-PDF
printer-is-accepting-jobs=true printer-is-shared=true printer-is-temporary=false
printer-location printer-make-and-model='Generic CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options)'
printer-state=3 printer-state-change-time=1556084401 printer-state-reasons=none
printer-type=8450124 printer-uri-supported=ipp://localhost/printers/Cups-PDF
then
[root@f29bk ~]# lpoptions -p Cups-PDF -o landscape=true
[root@f29bk ~]# lpoptions -p Cups-PDF
copies=1 device-uri=cups-pdf:/ finishings=3 job-cancel-after=10800 job-hold-until=no-hold
job-priority=50 job-sheets=none,none landscape=true marker-change-time=0 number-up=1
printer-commands=AutoConfigure,Clean,PrintSelfTestPage printer-info=Cups-PDF
printer-is-accepting-jobs=true printer-is-shared=true printer-is-temporary=false
printer-location printer-make-and-model='Generic CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options)'
printer-state=3 printer-state-change-time=1556084401 printer-state-reasons=none
printer-type=8450124 printer-uri-supported=ipp://localhost/printers/Cups-PDF
So, now any file printed *without* specifying orientation will be printed as landscape.
The important thing to remember is "Application Defaults" will override the
printer defaults.
An example of this is Thunderbird. Its print dialog defaults to "Portrait" and
will
override the default setting.
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2:51 p.m.
On 4/23/19 10:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 4/24/19 1:28 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> No idea how to tell CUPS-PDF to print Landscane by default.
My printer is named Cups-PDF.
Prior to modification this is the printer's info...
[root@f29bk ~]# lpoptions -p Cups-PDF
copies=1 device-uri=cups-pdf:/ finishings=3 job-cancel-after=10800
job-hold-until=no-hold
job-priority=50 job-sheets=none,none marker-change-time=0 number-up=1
printer-commands=AutoConfigure,Clean,PrintSelfTestPage printer-info=Cups-PDF
printer-is-accepting-jobs=true printer-is-shared=true printer-is-temporary=false
printer-location printer-make-and-model='Generic CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options)'
printer-state=3 printer-state-change-time=1556084401 printer-state-reasons=none
printer-type=8450124 printer-uri-supported=ipp://localhost/printers/Cups-PDF
then
[root@f29bk ~]# lpoptions -p Cups-PDF -o landscape=true
[root@f29bk ~]# lpoptions -p Cups-PDF
copies=1 device-uri=cups-pdf:/ finishings=3 job-cancel-after=10800
job-hold-until=no-hold
job-priority=50 job-sheets=none,none landscape=true marker-change-time=0 number-up=1
printer-commands=AutoConfigure,Clean,PrintSelfTestPage printer-info=Cups-PDF
printer-is-accepting-jobs=true printer-is-shared=true printer-is-temporary=false
printer-location printer-make-and-model='Generic CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options)'
printer-state=3 printer-state-change-time=1556084401 printer-state-reasons=none
printer-type=8450124 printer-uri-supported=ipp://localhost/printers/Cups-PDF
So, now any file printed *without* specifying orientation will be printed as landscape.
The important thing to remember is "Application Defaults" will override the
printer defaults.
An example of this is Thunderbird. Its print dialog defaults to "Portrait" and
will
override the default setting.
Hi Ed,
Thank you!
# lpoptions -p Cups-PDF
copies=1 device-uri=cups-pdf:/ finishings=3 job-cancel-after=10800
job-hold-until=no-hold job-priority=50 job-sheets=none,none
landscape=true marker-change-time=0 number-up=1 orientation-requested=4
printer-commands=AutoConfigure,Clean,PrintSelfTestPage
printer-info=Cups-PDF printer-is-accepting-jobs=true
printer-is-shared=true printer-is-temporary=false printer-location
printer-make-and-model='Generic CUPS-PDF Printer (no options)'
printer-state=3 printer-state-change-time=1556134913
printer-state-reasons=none printer-type=8450124
printer-uri-supported=ipp://localhost/printers/Cups-PDF
I see both
landscape=true and
orientation-requested=4
I wonder if they conflict?
-T
6:53 p.m.
On 4/25/19 3:51 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
# lpoptions -p Cups-PDF
copies=1 device-uri=cups-pdf:/ finishings=3 job-cancel-after=10800
job-hold-until=no-hold job-priority=50 job-sheets=none,none landscape=true
marker-change-time=0 number-up=1 orientation-requested=4
printer-commands=AutoConfigure,Clean,PrintSelfTestPage printer-info=Cups-PDF
printer-is-accepting-jobs=true printer-is-shared=true printer-is-temporary=false
printer-location printer-make-and-model='Generic CUPS-PDF Printer (no options)'
printer-state=3 printer-state-change-time=1556134913 printer-state-reasons=none
printer-type=8450124 printer-uri-supported=ipp://localhost/printers/Cups-PDF
I see both
landscape=true and
orientation-requested=4
I wonder if they conflict?
I don't think they would.
One thing I would do is use the Cups Web Interface to change the driver from Generic
CUPS-PDF Printer (no options) to CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options)
You mentioned "Lotus Approach". I am unfamiliar with that application.
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7:21 p.m.
On 4/24/19 4:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 4/25/19 3:51 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> # lpoptions -p Cups-PDF
> copies=1 device-uri=cups-pdf:/ finishings=3 job-cancel-after=10800
> job-hold-until=no-hold job-priority=50 job-sheets=none,none landscape=true
> marker-change-time=0 number-up=1 orientation-requested=4
> printer-commands=AutoConfigure,Clean,PrintSelfTestPage printer-info=Cups-PDF
> printer-is-accepting-jobs=true printer-is-shared=true printer-is-temporary=false
> printer-location printer-make-and-model='Generic CUPS-PDF Printer (no
options)'
> printer-state=3 printer-state-change-time=1556134913 printer-state-reasons=none
> printer-type=8450124 printer-uri-supported=ipp://localhost/printers/Cups-PDF
>
> I see both
> landscape=true and
> orientation-requested=4
>
> I wonder if they conflict?
I don't think they would.
Brian over on the CUPS group told me this
Not quite. landscape=true rotates the page by 90 degrees
in a direction determined by *LandscapeOrientation in
the PPD. orientation-requested=4 always rotates by 90
degrees anticlockwise.
One thing I would do is use the Cups Web Interface to change the driver from Generic
CUPS-PDF Printer (no options) to CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options)
You mentioned "Lotus Approach". I am unfamiliar with that application.
It is abandoned. I run it under Wine Staging:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Lotus_Approach
7:51 p.m.
On 4/25/19 8:21 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote:
On 4/24/19 4:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 4/25/19 3:51 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if they conflict?
>
> I don't think they would.
Brian over on the CUPS group told me this
Not quite. landscape=true rotates the page by 90 degrees
in a direction determined by *LandscapeOrientation in
the PPD. orientation-requested=4 always rotates by 90
degrees anticlockwise.
I don't see an answer to if they conflict or not.
Sounds like Brian would be in a better position to help.
>
> One thing I would do is use the Cups Web Interface to change the driver from Generic
> CUPS-PDF Printer (no options) to CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options)
>
> You mentioned "Lotus Approach". I am unfamiliar with that application.
It is abandoned. I run it under Wine Staging:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Lotus_Approach
Oh, Wine and discontinued SW involved. That may make it hard to determine where the
issue
resides.
Have you tried the different driver?
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8:07 p.m.
On 4/24/19 5:51 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Brian over on the CUPS group told me this
> Not quite. landscape=true rotates the page by 90 degrees
> in a direction determined by *LandscapeOrientation in
> the PPD. orientation-requested=4 always rotates by 90
> degrees anticlockwise.
I don't see an answer to if they conflict or not.
One turn it +90 deg the other -90 deg. Maybe.
I use the Cups-PDF driver from Fedora's repo
8:36 p.m.
On 4/25/19 9:07 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote:
On 4/24/19 5:51 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Brian over on the CUPS group told me this
>> Not quite. landscape=true rotates the page by 90 degrees
>> in a direction determined by *LandscapeOrientation in
>> the PPD. orientation-requested=4 always rotates by 90
>> degrees anticlockwise.
> I don't see an answer to if they conflict or not.
One turn it +90 deg the other -90 deg. Maybe.
Ask Brian.
Or, if you think it is a conflict then change to landscape=false. It there is a conflict
then one would think that would resolve it. In other words, make changes to see if they
have effects and note the change or lack of change.
I use the Cups-PDF driver from Fedora's repo
Yes, so do I. When you install, or modify, the printer you have the options of several
drivers to use. I'm suggesting you change to Generic CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options)
which
*is* included with Fedora.
So, try using that driver instead.
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8:47 p.m.
On 4/25/19 8:21 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote:
It is abandoned. I run it under Wine Staging:
You are running this under Wine, so that means Windows?
Why not just install a Windows PDF Printer?
Windows 10?
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/print-pdf-windows/
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10:07 p.m.
On 4/24/19 6:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 4/25/19 8:21 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote:
> It is abandoned. I run it under Wine Staging:
You are running this under Wine, so that means Windows?
Why not just install a Windows PDF Printer?
Windows 10?
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/print-pdf-windows/
It is a Windows program running on Linux under Wine Staging.
Wine reads my installed printers from CUPS.
10:18 p.m.
On 4/25/19 11:07 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote:
It is a Windows program running on Linux under Wine Staging.
Wine reads my installed printers from CUPS.
I've not used Wine in a long time. I guess you can't install a Windows Printer
under it.
If you can't get your issue sorted, another idea would be to export the file you want
to
print into a format available in LibreOffice and open and convert to PDF using its native
function or using the Cups PDF printer.
Doing some "Googling" has shown people exporting Lotus Approach files to .xls.
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10:51 p.m.
On 4/24/19 8:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 4/25/19 11:07 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote:
> It is a Windows program running on Linux under Wine Staging.
> Wine reads my installed printers from CUPS.
I've not used Wine in a long time. I guess you can't install a Windows Printer
under it.
If you can't get your issue sorted, another idea would be to export the file you want
to
print into a format available in LibreOffice and open and convert to PDF using its
native
function or using the Cups PDF printer.
Doing some "Googling" has shown people exporting Lotus Approach files to .xls.
What I do is print to Cups-PDF, it comes out Portrait. Then I go into
Approach's page set up and change it back to Landscape and print again.
The setting does not hold in Approach. Changing printers picks up the
defaults from CUPS. It is annoying.
11:19 p.m.
On 4/25/19 11:51 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote:
What I do is print to Cups-PDF, it comes out Portrait. Then I go into
Approach's page set up and change it back to Landscape and print again.
The setting does not hold in Approach. Changing printers picks up the
defaults from CUPS. It is annoying
So, I think you're saying, if you remember to set landscape in Approach all is OK
printing
to Cups-PDF? And that setting is permanent in Approach?
So, just something annoying more than broken?
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12:04 a.m.
On 4/24/19 9:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 4/25/19 11:51 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote:
>
> What I do is print to Cups-PDF, it comes out Portrait. Then I go into
> Approach's page set up and change it back to Landscape and print again.
> The setting does not hold in Approach. Changing printers picks up the
> defaults from CUPS. It is annoying
So, I think you're saying, if you remember to set landscape in Approach all is OK
printing
to Cups-PDF? And that setting is permanent in Approach?
So, just something annoying more than broken?
The paper is all set up perfectly to print to my OkiData B4350 printer.
If I want to make a PDF, I have to change the printer to
Portrait after it prints. I can only correct it after it prints.
And if you save the new settings, Approach reverts back to the old
settings.
More annoying than broken, because I have to do it twice and I can't
turn the task over to a regular user.
I suppose I could always edit the form so that everything crams on
a portrait page. Maybe reduce the font.
12:08 a.m.
On Wed, 2019-04-24 at 20:51 -0700, Todd Chester via users wrote:
What I do is print to Cups-PDF, it comes out Portrait. Then I go
into Approach's page set up and change it back to Landscape and print
again. The setting does not hold in Approach. Changing printers
picks up the defaults from CUPS. It is annoying.
I'm wondering if you're missing a step. In most authoring software,
you have to set the page format to landscape or portrait. This isn't a
printer setting, it's data about the actual document. This will be the
default print layout used when you get around to printing it.
e.g. In various word processors, you have style formatting options per
character, per paragraph, and then the whole page.
12:19 a.m.
On 4/24/19 10:08 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Wed, 2019-04-24 at 20:51 -0700, Todd Chester via users wrote:
> What I do is print to Cups-PDF, it comes out Portrait. Then I go
> into Approach's page set up and change it back to Landscape and print
> again. The setting does not hold in Approach. Changing printers
> picks up the defaults from CUPS. It is annoying.
I'm wondering if you're missing a step. In most authoring software,
you have to set the page format to landscape or portrait. This isn't a
printer setting, it's data about the actual document. This will be the
default print layout used when you get around to printing it.
e.g. In various word processors, you have style formatting options per
character, per paragraph, and then the whole page.
Hi Tim,
In Approach, when you set up your report, you choose a "paper" size.
Approach gets it from the default print driver for the page. You
can set it to whatever the printer supports.
Cups-PDF is not the default printer, so when you print to it, you
have to set the page up again. "Supposedly" when you save
the Approach file, it saves the new settings, but this is
the exception. It saves everything else.
-T
3:31 a.m.
On 4/25/19 1:19 PM, Todd Chester via users wrote:
In Approach, when you set up your report, you choose a
"paper" size.
Approach gets it from the default print driver for the page. You
can set it to whatever the printer supports.
Cups-PDF is not the default printer, so when you print to it, you
have to set the page up again. "Supposedly" when you save
the Approach file, it saves the new settings, but this is
the exception. It saves everything else.
Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to the
"Approach"
application.
You will recall that I mentioned that "default" settings for any device will be
the
settings used in the *absence* of an application specifying the setting and value. So,
making changes to the "default" values of the printer are not going to have any
effect if
the application sets (overrides) the default.
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4:22 a.m.
On 4/30/19 4:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 4/25/19 1:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to the
"Approach"
> application.
Of course. I can't do anything about Approach, but I can do
somnething about CUPS-PDF.
Try one last time....
If "Approach" is specifically requesting Portrait it matters not if the
"default" setting
of cups-pdf is Landscape. The *specific* request overrides the *default*.
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5:48 a.m.
On 4/30/19 2:22 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 4/30/19 4:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 4/25/19 1:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to the
"Approach"
>> application.
>
> Of course. I can't do anything about Approach, but I can do
> somnething about CUPS-PDF.
>
Try one last time....
If "Approach" is specifically requesting Portrait it matters not if the
"default" setting
of cups-pdf is Landscape. The *specific* request overrides the *default*.
One last time. Approach automatically selects the default
rotation and the default paper size from the print driver
(CUPS-PDF). The default paper size is A4, but I figured
out how to change it to Letter
You can only change the rotation and size back AFTER you first
print to it. And it is suppose to save the new setting
in the Approach file (.apr), but does not. It is a bug.
It is also bad programming, but nothing can be done about it
because Approach is abandonware.
6:56 a.m.
On 4/30/19 6:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 4/30/19 2:22 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 4/30/19 4:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>> On 4/25/19 1:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to the
"Approach"
>>> application.
>>
>> Of course. I can't do anything about Approach, but I can do
>> somnething about CUPS-PDF.
>>
>
> Try one last time....
>
> If "Approach" is specifically requesting Portrait it matters not if the
"default" setting
> of cups-pdf is Landscape. The *specific* request overrides the *default*.
>
>
One last time. Approach automatically selects the default
rotation and the default paper size from the print driver
(CUPS-PDF). The default paper size is A4, but I figured
out how to change it to Letter
You can only change the rotation and size back AFTER you first
print to it. And it is suppose to save the new setting
in the Approach file (.apr), but does not. It is a bug.
It is also bad programming, but nothing can be done about it
because Approach is abandonware.
Yes, and the "default" settings aren't going to help.
You probably will have to modify /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf and uncomment and change the
#GSCall line.
It may work to change -dAutoRotatePages=/PageByPage to -dAutoRotatePages=/None and add -c
"<</Orientation 3>> setpagedevice". When making changes make sure
the GSCall line has no
line breaks.
This may work to force all outputs to be landscape.
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6:58 a.m.
On 4/30/19 4:56 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 4/30/19 6:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 4/30/19 2:22 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 4/30/19 4:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> On 4/25/19 1:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>> Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to
the "Approach"
>>>> application.
>>>
>>> Of course. I can't do anything about Approach, but I can do
>>> somnething about CUPS-PDF.
>>>
>>
>> Try one last time....
>>
>> If "Approach" is specifically requesting Portrait it matters not if the
"default" setting
>> of cups-pdf is Landscape. The *specific* request overrides the *default*.
>>
>>
>
> One last time. Approach automatically selects the default
> rotation and the default paper size from the print driver
> (CUPS-PDF). The default paper size is A4, but I figured
> out how to change it to Letter
>
> You can only change the rotation and size back AFTER you first
> print to it. And it is suppose to save the new setting
> in the Approach file (.apr), but does not. It is a bug.
>
> It is also bad programming, but nothing can be done about it
> because Approach is abandonware.
>
Yes, and the "default" settings aren't going to help.
You probably will have to modify /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf and uncomment and change the
#GSCall line.
It may work to change -dAutoRotatePages=/PageByPage to -dAutoRotatePages=/None and add
-c
"<</Orientation 3>> setpagedevice". When making changes make sure
the GSCall line has no
line breaks.
This may work to force all outputs to be landscape.
Thank you!
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9:10 a.m.
Tim:
> I'm wondering if you're missing a step. In most
authoring software,
> you have to set the page format to landscape or portrait. This
> isn't a printer setting, it's data about the actual document.
Todd Chester:
In Approach, when you set up your report, you choose a
"paper" size.
Approach gets it from the default print driver for the page. You
can set it to whatever the printer supports.
Cups-PDF is not the default printer, so when you print to it, you
have to set the page up again. "Supposedly" when you save
the Approach file, it saves the new settings, but this is
the exception. It saves everything else.
Generally speaking, portrait or landscape printing isn't a printer
setting (unless you have a huge printer that you can stack the paper in
sideways), so I'm not too surprised that you have to keep setting it
(whether something is portrait or landscape is dependent on the data,
not the printer). Printing settings for landscape are a rotation
override.
I haven't touched Lotus since Win98 went out of fashion, so I can't
recall what menu options you have (nor find any on-line examples). But
have you gone through the menus and looked for a portrait/landscape
page setting that is *not* part of the printing dialogue?
By way of an example that I can look at (and show you), if you have
LibreOffice installed, as well: Open a calc spreadsheet (even an empty
blank one - just type some random characters in a few cells to be able
to see a print preview, or a test print on paper), open the Format
menu, pick Page. This sets the structure of the spreadsheet.
4 a.m.
On 4/25/19 7:10 AM, Tim via users wrote:
I haven't touched Lotus since Win98 went out of fashion, so I
can't
recall what menu options you have (nor find any on-line examples). But
have you gone through the menus and looked for a portrait/landscape
page setting that is*not* part of the printing dialogue?
I can get it to print correctly, but I have to change it every time
By way of an example that I can look at (and show you), if you have
LibreOffice installed, as well: Open a calc spreadsheet (even an empty
blank one - just type some random characters in a few cells to be able
to see a print preview, or a test print on paper), open the Format
menu, pick Page. This sets the structure of the spreadsheet.
LibreOffice works fine, except it can't print an envelope for
its life. This is obviously a problem with Approach. But I
can't do anything about Approach. I can with CUPS-PDF.
12:36 a.m.
On 4/23/19 9:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 4/24/19 12:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 4/23/19 8:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 4/24/19 10:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am trying to figure ouyt how to get cups-pdf to default
>>> to Landscape. I have found how to get it to default
>>> to Letter in http://127.0.0.1.:631, but not to default
>>> to landscape.
>>>
>>> The cups mailing list tosses my eMail for soem reason.
>>> Does CUPS-PDF have its own mailing list by chance?
>>
>> https://www.cups.org/doc/options.html
>>
>> See...
>>
>> Creating Saved Options
>
> I am confused. :'(
>
Are we supposed to guess what is confusing to you?
I was confused about your response as well. I'm assuming now that you
were trying to answer the first question about orientation. It would
have been better if you hadn't quoted the question about the mailing
list right before your answer.
12:53 a.m.
On 4/24/19 1:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I was confused about your response as well. I'm assuming now
that you were trying to
answer the first question about orientation. It would have been better if you
hadn't
quoted the question about the mailing list right before your answer.
Maybe. But my answer pointing to something having nothing to do with the mailing list
should have been a big enough clue IMO.
--
Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color
scheme
9:34 a.m.
On Tue, 2019-04-23 at 19:45 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I am trying to figure ouyt how to get cups-pdf to default
to Landscape.
Wouldn't that depend on what you're trying to print?
Sure, if you're trying to print plain text, then I can see you'd need
to set your preference. But if you've got some kind of document that's
already laid out in a landscape aspect, wouldn't it print that way, by
default?
2:49 p.m.
On 4/24/19 7:34 AM, Tim via users wrote:
On Tue, 2019-04-23 at 19:45 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> I am trying to figure ouyt how to get cups-pdf to default
> to Landscape.
Wouldn't that depend on what you're trying to print?
Sure, if you're trying to print plain text, then I can see you'd need
to set your preference. But if you've got some kind of document that's
already laid out in a landscape aspect, wouldn't it print that way, by
default?
When I change Lotus Approach report from my B4350 printer
(Letter, Landscape) to Cups-PDF, it changes my paper to
A4 and Portrait. I fixed the A4, but now I am working
in the Landscape.
As it stands, I have to print once with Cups-PDF, go into
design and switch the page to Landscape, then print again.
Saving the Approach settings does not help. I have to
do this over and over and over. Pain in the neck!
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